Preemptive Grammys Gay Marriage Thread

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Weezer said:
By your own reckoning, they're already going to hell for being gay, so why not let them be happy in life by supporting them in getting married?

I didn't gloss over your second class citizen comment, I stated gcbvol addressed it in his post.
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Because in comparison to eternity, our time on earth is minuscule. So say they have 50 years of happiness here on earth. To me that pales in comparison to the scope of eternity.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Plus Jim Beam sucks, unless you get the Ghost and mix it with three cubes, a slight splash of soda water, and an an unsqueezed lime floating.


That is the only good drink I can get from it. Other than that, people shoot it if I'm out of jack, maker's, and stag (and that's just shots).
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I was just thinking about it being an American company for so long. I have never tried it so I can't comment on any of that. Just hate to see it happen. But as you said maybe its a good think for their customers.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
If you want your kid to catch gayness by getting molested by gays good for you but that **** belongs behind closed doors same as lesbians and other pedophiles
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Not sure if serious.

Perhaps I should consult the Merck manual, the DSM IV or WebMD to see how 'gayness' is transmitted.

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Hmm. Nothing here.
 
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Septic said:
Not sure if serious.

Perhaps I should consult the Merck manual, the DSM IV or WebMD to see how 'gayness' is transmitted.

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Hmm. Nothing here.
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Go to a local gay bar. I'm sure you can find someone to "spread" it to you.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Because in comparison to eternity, our time on earth is minuscule. So say they have 50 years of happiness here on earth. To me that pales in comparison to the scope of eternity.
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How are you saving their souls. You've already said they were gay. If they're gay, then by your own words they're already "damned for all eternity". Nothing you have done or can do stops them from being gay. So how you get keeping them from getting married and being happy during their time on earth saves their soul is beyond me. It's like you're saying God's fine with them being gay, just not them getting married.

For all those who claim they have "nothing against gays", then why do you oppose them finding happiness on earth? You've already firmly stated they're going to hell, so why not let them enjoy the life they have here and now rather than make that hell for them as well? You've already passed your judgement, do you feel you also have the right to usurp God's power to punish as well?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Because in comparison to eternity, our time on earth is minuscule. So say they have 50 years of happiness here on earth. To me that pales in comparison to the scope of eternity.
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So are you saying they shouldn't act on their sexual desires throughout their lives?

Does that mean that if I never choose to marry and I fornicate with unmarried women regularly (let's say every 2-3 months) and die with that same mentality, would I go to hell? This is also assuming I don't steal, kill or otherwise harm others.
 
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Weezer said:
How are you saving their souls. You've already said they were gay. If they're gay, then by your own words they're already "damned for all eternity". Nothing you have done or can do stops them from being gay. So how you get keeping them from getting married and being happy during their time on earth saves their soul is beyond me. It's like you're saying God's fine with them being gay, just not them getting married.

For all those who claim they have "nothing against gays", then why do you oppose them finding happiness on earth? You've already firmly stated they're going to hell, so why not let them enjoy the life they have here and now rather than make that hell for them as well? You've already passed your judgement, do you feel you also have the right to usurp God's power to punish as well?
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Ok I will bite. I can pray for them and ask them to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior. Then hopefully they will see their sin, ask for forgiveness and realize homosexuality is wrong. I would have thought this was a pretty easy thing to realize. However now I realize that you don't know that much about prayer and quite possibly religion in general.

Also just so you know both of my cousins were straight for most of their life. They were both born in Maryland and one of them spent the first 35 years of his life as a straight man, whom dated women and even married one. The other one spent 28 years of her life as a straight woman.

10 years ago both of them moved to Los Angeles. After a couple of years they turned gay. Anyway I am done with this debate with you. You support gay marriage and think there is nothing wrong with it. That's fine. I do not support gay marriage and think homosexuality is disgusting and wrong. We both have opposing opinions and that is perfectly fine.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
So are you saying they shouldn't act on their sexual desires throughout their lives?

Does that mean that if I never choose to marry and I fornicate with unmarried women regularly (let's say every 2-3 months) and die with that same mentality, would I go to hell? This is also assuming I don't steal, kill or otherwise harm others.
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If you never accepted Jesus into your heart, then never asked for forgiveness? Then yes you would go to hell.

Both of my cousins were straight until they moved to California. So sorry they have a choice as to which desires they act on.
 
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Age 2. Really.
Then get the penis taking off to go to the woman's bathroom--violated rights- only violation was a penis in the girls bathroom.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Ok I will bite. I can pray for them and ask them to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior. Then hopefully they will see their sin, ask for forgiveness and realize homosexuality is wrong. I would have thought this was a pretty easy thing to realize. However now I realize that you don't know that much about prayer and quite possibly religion in general.

Also just so you know both of my cousins were straight for most of their life. They were both born in Maryland and one of them spent the first 35 years of his life as a straight man, whom dated women and even married one. The other one spent 28 years of her life as a straight woman.

10 years ago both of them moved to Los Angeles. After a couple of years they turned gay. Anyway I am done with this debate with you. You support gay marriage and think there is nothing wrong with it. That's fine. I do not support gay marriage and think homosexuality is disgusting and wrong. We both have opposing opinions and that is perfectly fine.
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First paragraph: They're gay. No amount of prayer is going to change their genetic predisposition. I would have thought this was a pretty easy thing to realize. Obviously you don't understand science, and your rush to judge and enforce your beliefs upon others makes me question just how well you understand religion. What you understand is what you were taught about your particualr view of Christianity. Did you know the number of Chritian sects in the world reaches into the 5 digit range? Thirty-Forty thousand, maybe more, sects of Christianity exist. Even the Catholics have multiple divisions among their church. (purposely avoided sects there to steer away from altar boy jokes) So which view of Christianity is the right one?

If he was happy when he was "straight", don't you think he would have remained straight? The truth, as painful as it is for you to hear, is he was never straight. Do you honestly believe that a move to California is going to cause a man to "turn" gay? Do you believe he would subject himself to the judgement of you and his family on a whim? Despite the strides that have been made, gays are still persecuted in today's world, even in California. He revealed himself after years of living a lie in hopes of finding happiness. I pray he finds it. Whatever the afterlife holds for him, I'm sure you have made your points clear and he knows your views. Unless you're willing to let him decide your fate, then stop trying to decide his. As I've said before, God claims that right. According to your own religion, it is His and His alone.

Same applies to your female cousin.

I agree it is okay to have opposing opinions. I'm all for you expressing your opinions. What I disagree with is your view that you should be able to enforce your opinion on others. You may disagree with gay marriage, but please, tell me, how does gay marriage effect you personally? If you're not gay, it doesn't, so why fight so hard against it. You think it's wrong? Fine, don't practice it, but don't tell others they can't practice it either. Let others make their own choices.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You just showed your stupidity. Thanks for playing. :eek:lol::eek:lol: The sad part is you don't even realize why your response is stupid. If you are under the age of 30 I can give you a pass, if not then wow.
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How very Christian of you........do you pull the Christian card only when it's convenient?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
10 years ago both of them moved to Los Angeles. After a couple of years they turned gay. Anyway I am done with this debate with you. You support gay marriage and think there is nothing wrong with it. That's fine. I do not support gay marriage and think homosexuality is disgusting and wrong. We both have opposing opinions and that is perfectly fine.
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They didnt "turn" gay
 
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BearCat204 said:
How very Christian of you........do you pull the Christian card only when it's convenient?
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So I guess you think Christians are always supposed to act perfect huh? Anytime a Christian uses any kind of derogatory, this is the response. Its old. Christians are not perfect. We get mad. Sometimes we curse. Sometimes we totally overreact and act improperly. We are human and make mistakes.
 
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Weezer said:
First paragraph: They're gay. No amount of prayer is going to change their genetic predisposition. I would have thought this was a pretty easy thing to realize. Obviously you don't understand science, and your rush to judge and enforce your beliefs upon others makes me question just how well you understand religion. What you understand is what you were taught about your particualr view of Christianity. Did you know the number of Chritian sects in the world reaches into the 5 digit range? Thirty-Forty thousand, maybe more, sects of Christianity exist. Even the Catholics have multiple divisions among their church. (purposely avoided sects there to steer away from altar boy jokes) So which view of Christianity is the right one?

If he was happy when he was "straight", don't you think he would have remained straight? The truth, as painful as it is for you to hear, is he was never straight. Do you honestly believe that a move to California is going to cause a man to "turn" gay? Do you believe he would subject himself to the judgement of you and his family on a whim? Despite the strides that have been made, gays are still persecuted in today's world, even in California. He revealed himself after years of living a lie in hopes of finding happiness. I pray he finds it. Whatever the afterlife holds for him, I'm sure you have made your points clear and he knows your views. Unless you're willing to let him decide your fate, then stop trying to decide his. As I've said before, God claims that right. According to your own religion, it is His and His alone.

Same applies to your female cousin.

I agree it is okay to have opposing opinions. I'm all for you expressing your opinions. What I disagree with is your view that you should be able to enforce your opinion on others. You may disagree with gay marriage, but please, tell me, how does gay marriage effect you personally? If you're not gay, it doesn't, so why fight so hard against it. You think it's wrong? Fine, don't practice it, but don't tell others they can't practice it either. Let others make their own choices.
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Well no my cousins were not always gay. Sorry but you're wrong. I really do not want to go into the specifics of both of their situations because neither of them are here to tell you what they told me. Suffice to say they both mentioned to me the influence LA has had on their sexual preferences. Also both of them have dated members of the opposite sex multiple times over the years. My male cousin has said he misses the love and feel of a woman. There is no genetic predisposition for homosexuality. That is an unproven theory. No gay gene exists. It is a choice. Also saying no amount of prayer is going to change them is a logical fallacy and impossible to prove. You are not God. You do not know that prayer cannot change things. Stop trying to

The fact is both of them are not happy. Neither will tell their families they are gay. They will not put on facebook that they are in a homosexual relationship and neither will get married to their partner. Why not? They have had plenty of time to do so. All I am saying is when people love each other and are happy they are not ashamed to tell anyone and they have no qualms about marriage. I have no problems with both of them judging my fate. They can believe whatever they want about my afterlife. I know where I am going so their opinion is inconsequential.

When have I ever said in this thread that I have forced anyone to adhere to my opinion? I haven't. Not once. All I have said repeatedly is that it is wrong and it disgusts me. It bothers me in this instance because gay marriage was used as a social engineering tool. There was absolutely no logical reason for gay marriage to be involved in the Grammys.

I am not stopping anyone from making their choices. As I have said before, the only time i voice an opinion about gay marriage is when I am asked. I do not go around to people on the street and go "hey gay marriage is wrong." That would make me a total jerk. Seriously this is getting old. I have left everybody alone to make their own choices and form their own opinions. Now leave me alone to make mine.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Um, yeah. Pretty much every species has cases of homosexuality via a genetic deformity. Of course it's pretty clear that science is beyond your comprehension.
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Be more specific because science tends to contradict itself in many cases depending on who's performing it & the predetermined agenda.
 
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Weezer said:
First paragraph: They're gay. No amount of prayer is going to change their genetic predisposition. I would have thought this was a pretty easy thing to realize. Obviously you don't understand science, and your rush to judge and enforce your beliefs upon others makes me question just how well you understand religion. What you understand is what you were taught about your particualr view of Christianity. Did you know the number of Chritian sects in the world reaches into the 5 digit range? Thirty-Forty thousand, maybe more, sects of Christianity exist. Even the Catholics have multiple divisions among their church. (purposely avoided sects there to steer away from altar boy jokes) So which view of Christianity is the right one?

If he was happy when he was "straight", don't you think he would have remained straight? The truth, as painful as it is for you to hear, is he was never straight. Do you honestly believe that a move to California is going to cause a man to "turn" gay? Do you believe he would subject himself to the judgement of you and his family on a whim? Despite the strides that have been made, gays are still persecuted in today's world, even in California. He revealed himself after years of living a lie in hopes of finding happiness. I pray he finds it. Whatever the afterlife holds for him, I'm sure you have made your points clear and he knows your views. Unless you're willing to let him decide your fate, then stop trying to decide his. As I've said before, God claims that right. According to your own religion, it is His and His alone.

Same applies to your female cousin.

I agree it is okay to have opposing opinions. I'm all for you expressing your opinions. What I disagree with is your view that you should be able to enforce your opinion on others. You may disagree with gay marriage, but please, tell me, how does gay marriage effect you personally? If you're not gay, it doesn't, so why fight so hard against it. You think it's wrong? Fine, don't practice it, but don't tell others they can't practice it either. Let others make their own choices.
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I was unhappy with Colgate so I switched to Crest..does that mean deep down I really like Colgate?
 
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