Noah's Ark

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#77
VOLinFL_ said:
Based on actual science, no. As humans have conquered the globe, more species have gone extinct.
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I would call that an assumption at best. Being able to find the true origins of animals that may have very well come from the breeding of two other animals would be no easy task.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I'm not trying to be a jerk here but you drop a bomb about how geologists have proven there was a global flood and say it's something they all accept as fact, then when asked for even a link, you basically say "Look it up".

That's weak sauce.
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Drop a Bomb? Do the due diligence and look it up as you say. This stuff as been out their for at least as many years as the proved layer of ash that encompasses the world from the asteroid that sturck of the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Like you say I'm not trying to be a jerk but I see it as common knowldge and 35 years or so of study does not condense down into a link for instant gratification.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Unless you're like me and don't think the flood was a true world wide flood. A flood of the known world, why not? Then again I'm also a Christian that believes in evolution.

Edit: I also kindly ask to give me scripture that describes the ark as rectangular.
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A couple of questions since I rarely (in my quest to become a very well-rounded apologist) run into Christians who believe in evolution.

To what extent do you believe in evolution? As in do you accept macroevolution? Or do you believe it mostly takes place on a small scale?

And do you believe it is the explanation of the origin of man, or just the explanation of the diversities and similarities of different animals?
 
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Why is believing we were created by a supreme being any more far fetched than believing 14.5 billion years ago there was an event where everything was created from nothing. Nobody knows. You choose to have faith or you don't.
 
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govols/cc said:
Why is believing we were created by a supreme being any more far fetched than believing 14.5 billion years ago there was an event where everything was created from nothing. Nobody knows. You choose to have faith or you don't.
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There is slightly more tangible items one can grasp onto with regards to the Big Bang.
 
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govols/cc said:
I find it absurdly hard to believe we can have anything other than a shot in the dark guess as to what happened 14.5 BILLION years ago.
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We have ways to detect Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, which amazingly can see back to the first few million years of the universe, if not even earlier.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Burden of proof is not on me. Who are we to decide if God was implying anything? I wasn't there. Pretty sure you weren't. So why is it okay to assume what he meant?
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Burden of proof is on no one here. But the burden of explaining why Noah would see no need to protect fish from water certainly doesn't rest on the shoulders of the Christian.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
We have ways to detect Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, which amazingly can see back to the first few million years of the universe, if not even earlier.
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Wow a few million years. Lol. Again. Believing that something erupted from nothing 14.5 Billion years ago is suppose to be concrete evidence? We have far more questions than answers. There is no concrete answer only theories. As far as religion, you have faith or you don't. I'm on the fence at times & wish there was something that would erase any doubt. There's not. Not for anybody.
 
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govols/cc said:
Wow a few million years. Lol. Again. Believing that something erupted from nothing 14.5 Billion years ago is suppose to be concrete evidence? We have far more questions than answers. There is no concrete answer only theories. As far as religion, you have faith of you don't. I'm on the fence at times & wish there was something that would erase any doubt. There's not. Not for anybody.
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I get what you're saying. Faith is just to hard for me to comprehend. I can fathom 14.5 billion years. I can fathom light years. I can fathom evolution. I can't fathom an all-knowing sky dweller who has been around longer than time itself. What made God randomly decide to create Earth? If he has been around an infinite amount of time, what did he do before Earth? These are the questions that wrack my brain.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
I get what you're saying. Faith is just to hard for me to comprehend. I can fathom 14.5 billion years. I can fathom light years. I can fathom evolution. I can't fathom an all-knowing sky dweller who has been around longer than time itself. What made God randomly decide to create Earth? If he has been around an infinite amount of time, what did he do before Earth? These are the questions that wrack my brain.
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If you think about it it should wrack everybody's. Every scenario & theory has holes.
 
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govols/cc said:
If you think about it it should wrack everybody's. Every scenario & theory has holes.
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Very true. But I am a science guy at heart. And science will prove or disprove the Big Bang long before it will prove or disprove God. But it makes for interesting debate, and for that, I am grateful.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
I get what you're saying. Faith is just to hard for me to comprehend. I can fathom 14.5 billion years. I can fathom light years. I can fathom evolution. I can't fathom an all-knowing sky dweller who has been around longer than time itself. What made God randomly decide to create Earth? If he has been around an infinite amount of time, what did he do before Earth? These are the questions that wrack my brain.
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I thought that science is now saying energy is neither created or destroyed. The Convergence of mass theory says this Big Bang is just the most recient as everything colapsed in on itself and expolded back out.

So either way your mind must come to grips with the fact that energy (God or other) never had a beggining.
 
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MercyPercy said:
You seem like a well spoken and well read individual. How do you logically rationalize the story of Noah?
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Good question.

First, with many if not most mythological stories there is some amount of truth. Dig deep enough through the centuries of telling, retelling and exaggeration and chances there was a person named Noah and he did survive a great deluge. There are too many cultures and ancient civilizations that speak of a great cataclysm to believe there wasn't something that happened long ago.

Now do I believe it happened exactly as the Bible portrays? All species of animals two by two and all? No. But do I have faith there was a figure in history that survived the great flood, possibly through divine intervention? Yes. Some things can be taken on faith.
 
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