'14 CA CB Adoree' Jackson (Signed with USC)

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I just talked to a co-worker who talked to a source that said he's hearing Jackson is very serious about Florida and LSU and that the five-star will probably end up at one of those schools.

This continues to be important because it validates the whispers I've been hearing for months - that Jackson is very serious about his track career and wants to be in the Olympics and that he feels those two programs might help him achieve those goals while also being at a football power.

Jackson really isn't talking much and will probably be radio silent until the Under Armour game but I'll try to pick his brain once I get down in Orlando next week.

I've also heard Tennessee, FSU and USC as legit options for him.

Adam Gorney
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Twitter: @adamgorney

Honestly, dude is hedging his bets. Adoree has been through the recruitment process before -- went through it in HS. He knows how to handle it all and is doing well by maintaining neutrality. I find it hard to believe any sources on him given how close to the vest he's played it.

We're in good position by all accounts.
 
Honestly, dude is hedging his bets. Adoree has been through the recruitment process before -- went through it in HS. He knows how to handle it all and is doing well by maintaining neutrality. I find it hard to believe any sources on him given how close to the vest he's played it.

We're in good position by all accounts.

agreed. We just have to wait until he announces, I doubt there's any legit sources out there that know where he's going.
 
Honestly, dude is hedging his bets. Adoree has been through the recruitment process before -- went through it in HS. He knows how to handle it all and is doing well by maintaining neutrality. I find it hard to believe any sources on him given how close to the vest he's played it.

We're in good position by all accounts.

Adoree has almost been as quiet as Malone was. I don't believe anyone who says they have inside info about him at this point.
 
Bleh...from TOS

I just talked to a co-worker who talked to a source that said he's hearing Jackson is very serious about Florida and LSU and that the five-star will probably end up at one of those schools.

This continues to be important because it validates the whispers I've been hearing for months - that Jackson is very serious about his track career and wants to be in the Olympics and that he feels those two programs might help him achieve those goals while also being at a football power.

Jackson really isn't talking much and will probably be radio silent until the Under Armour game but I'll try to pick his brain once I get down in Orlando next week.

I've also heard Tennessee, FSU and USC as legit options for him.

Adam Gorney
Rivals.com
West analyst
Twitter: @adamgorney

Adam is a alum at GSHS his info is pretty solid according to Shannon and JHop. Still only Camp Jackson knows where hes heading.
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Justin Hunter jumped 26'5 his freshman year and went on to pursue fball. Adoree is 5'10 max and jumps 25 feet. That is impressive, and he has great runway speed, but he won't be a gold medal contender at his size. JH had legitimate gold medal potential and he chose football because that is where the money is. Not sure why Adoree is getting sold a bill of goods on being a track star when he can be a top 10 pick at DB with return man skills and make a lot more money, and not have to resort to PED's.

Perhaps it's a personal interest of his? Or maybe because he's one of the best in the US? Also maybe he really wants chance to compete in the Olympics and win a medal. And after that, he could still go on to be a top 10 pick at DB. Heck he might even refrain from using PEDs!
 
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Perhaps it's a personal interest of his? Or maybe because he's one of the best in the US? Also maybe he really wants chance to compete in the Olympics and win a medal. And after that, he could still go on to be a top 10 pick at DB. Heck he might even refrain from using PEDs!

You obviously missed the point, he won't be a medal contender unless he dramatically improves. You gotta be jumping 27ish to be a medal contender at the Olympics, and in a good Olympics 28 feet. Adoree is jumping 25 and he has maxed out his speed, and he isn't getting any taller which is a big advantage in long jump. At 5 10' , plus splitting time with football, he is not going to do anything remotely close to Olympic competition, in fact he won't even be in the top 5 in the NCAA, much less the world. The training for long jump and football are quite different, he will need to gain some weight for football, and track will require him to shave off as much upper body weight as possible. It's a pointless dream to pursue both as they are not possible for him. You gotta focus on one or the other. At 5 10' and jumping 25 feet, as impressive as that is for most athletes, unfortunately that isn't getting him anywhere near medal contention at the Olympics and his ceiling IMO is almost maxed out. Football, his ceiling is much higher, and it pays much better.

As for it's a hobby of his, i love to play soccer, video games and play basketball; i would play them all day if i could, but i had to grow up, go to college and get a job. Football or track will be his future job, and he is going to have to focus on "one" of them. He can't do both, athletes like JH couldn't do both and he was a better long jumper with a lot more potential, and he realized he had to give one up. His hobby days are over. It should be obvious if someone is giving him good advice that football is where his best opportunity to be great and make a lot of money is. Florida and LSU are straight up lying to him if they are telling him he can be a medal contender and play football at the same time. Better "track" athletes have tried to do the same in the past 20 years and no one has been able to do both at that type of level, so based on history there is no way he is going to be able to. He is a great great athlete, but he is not going to improve his LJ by 2 feet with some "coaching". When you get to the mid 20's in LJ, its a matter of diminishing returns. He is only going to see so much improvement by reshaping his body and learning some minor tweaks to his technique. His height is also a negative as far as long term potential.

It's perfectly fine for him to play both in college, that is his choice. It is a different animal if he thinks he can be a medal contender in long jump and a NFL player at the same time. The type of training and weight issues are going to cause problems for him if he wants to compete at the highest level for either one.
 
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You obviously missed the point, he won't be a medal contender unless he dramatically improves. You gotta be jumping 27ish to be a medal contender at the Olympics, and in a good Olympics 28 feet. Adoree is jumping 25 and he has maxed out his speed, and he isn't getting any taller which is a big advantage in long jump. At 5 10' , plus splitting time with football, he is not going to do anything remotely close to Olympic competition, in fact he won't even be in the top 5 in the NCAA, much less the world. The training for long jump and football are quite different, he will need to gain some weight for football, and track will require him to shave off as much upper body weight as possible. It's a pointless dream to pursue both as they are not possible for him. You gotta focus on one or the other. At 5 10' and jumping 25 feet, as impressive as that is for most athletes, unfortunately that isn't getting him anywhere near medal contention at the Olympics and his ceiling IMO is almost maxed out. Football, his ceiling is much higher, and it pays much better.

As for it's a hobby of his, i love to play soccer, video games and play basketball; i would play them all day if i could, but i had to grow up, go to college and get a job. Football or track will be his future job, and he is going to have to focus on "one" of them. He can't do both, athletes like JH couldn't do both and he was a better long jumper with a lot more potential, and he realized he had to give one up. His hobby days are over. It should be obvious if someone is giving him good advice that football is where his best opportunity to be great and make a lot of money is. Florida and LSU are straight up lying to him if they are telling him he can be a medal contender and play football at the same time. Better "track" athletes have tried to do the same in the past 20 years and no one has been able to do both at that type of level, so based on history there is no way he is going to be able to. He is a great great athlete, but he is not going to improve his LJ by 2 feet with some "coaching". When you get to the mid 20's in LJ, its a matter of diminishing returns. He is only going to see so much improvement by reshaping his body and learning some minor tweaks to his technique. His height is also a negative as far as long term potential.

It's perfectly fine for him to play both in college, that is his choice. It is a different animal if he thinks he can be a medal contender in long jump and a NFL player at the same time. The type of training and weight issues are going to cause problems for him if he wants to compete at the highest level for either one.

Most jumpers don't reach their peak till late college-28 years old, you can't expect him to be jumping Olympic distances before he's even out of high school....

Justin Hunter's personal best long jump
26.10 feet

Adoree Jackson long jump from last year
25.0 feet

2012 Olympics
Gold Medal - 27.25 feet
Silver Medal - 26.76 feet
Bronze medal - 26.63 feet

He could easily get better with training, and get another 1-2 feet out of a jump
 
You obviously missed the point, he won't be a medal contender unless he dramatically improves. You gotta be jumping 27ish to be a medal contender at the Olympics, and in a good Olympics 28 feet. Adoree is jumping 25 and he has maxed out his speed, and he isn't getting any taller which is a big advantage in long jump. At 5 10' , plus splitting time with football, he is not going to do anything remotely close to Olympic competition, in fact he won't even be in the top 5 in the NCAA, much less the world. The training for long jump and football are quite different, he will need to gain some weight for football, and track will require him to shave off as much upper body weight as possible. It's a pointless dream to pursue both as they are not possible for him. You gotta focus on one or the other. At 5 10' and jumping 25 feet, as impressive as that is for most athletes, unfortunately that isn't getting him anywhere near medal contention at the Olympics and his ceiling IMO is almost maxed out. Football, his ceiling is much higher, and it pays much better.

As for it's a hobby of his, i love to play soccer, video games and play basketball; i would play them all day if i could, but i had to grow up, go to college and get a job. Football or track will be his future job, and he is going to have to focus on "one" of them. He can't do both, athletes like JH couldn't do both and he was a better long jumper with a lot more potential, and he realized he had to give one up. His hobby days are over. It should be obvious if someone is giving him good advice that football is where his best opportunity to be great and make a lot of money is. Florida and LSU are straight up lying to him if they are telling him he can be a medal contender and play football at the same time. Better "track" athletes have tried to do the same in the past 20 years and no one has been able to do both at that type of level, so based on history there is no way he is going to be able to. He is a great great athlete, but he is not going to improve his LJ by 2 feet with some "coaching". When you get to the mid 20's in LJ, its a matter of diminishing returns. He is only going to see so much improvement by reshaping his body and learning some minor tweaks to his technique. His height is also a negative as far as long term potential.

It's perfectly fine for him to play both in college, that is his choice. It is a different animal if he thinks he can be a medal contender in long jump and a NFL player at the same time. The type of training and weight issues are going to cause problems for him if he wants to compete at the highest level for either one.

That is a great write-up and I agree a medal is almost certainly out of the question, but the point was clear and easy to see. He is an elite athlete with a tremendous upside so I say it really is dim to pin a ceiling on him now because you see his height as a hindrance or what-have-you. 25' feet is good enough for 3rd in the nation among high school boys, so I reckon that's enough to make him think it's possible. Really not sure why we are talking about it. I mean isn't it obvious? The kid has a dream of being a two sport star. Hence the "@AdoreeKnows" Twitter handle. Not sure which of us is missing the point here. :p
 
I'm not gonna lie. I'm as optimistic as they come, and I still don't believe it will happen. But seeing someone reputable outside the state of Tennessee mention us as a factor at least makes this follow-worthy for me personally. I think he could be special with all the ways Jones would use him.

Agree. I love the class Jones has put together, he's done great so far. Maybe it's just my experience as a Vols fan over the last 6-7 years that doesn't let me believe we have a shot at Adoree in the end.... just don't see it. Especially when looking at the teams we're competing with.
 
I think he knows his true future is in football. I've seen quotes awhile ago where he said as much (no I'm not going to go look for them). Despite that, he can play big time football and track at any school he chooses. So, all we can do is sell him on the advantages of choosing Tennessee and hope its enough at the end of the day.
 
Most jumpers don't reach their peak till late college-28 years old, you can't expect him to be jumping Olympic distances before he's even out of high school....

Justin Hunter's personal best long jump
26.10 feet

Adoree Jackson long jump from last year
25.0 feet

2012 Olympics
Gold Medal - 27.25 feet
Silver Medal - 26.76 feet
Bronze medal - 26.63 feet

He could easily get better with training, and get another 1-2 feet out of a jump

You clearly know nothing about track if you think adding 2 feet to your long jump when you already run a 10.6 is not that hard. JH jumped 7'3 in HS and 26 feet and had a build that is ideal for long jump and he couldn't do it. You are the exact type of person that is feeding AJ with delusions of grandeur. If he focuses on track and LJ and he intends to medal in the olympics he has to quit football, fact. There are a few better athletes in the world and in the NCAA already that are fully devoted to track and LJ already. You do realize that they are getting equally good coaching that he would receive at UF or LSU and they are not sharing time between sports, nor are they following a training regimen that is counter productive to LJ. Adoree's is short and his speed down the run way is about maxed out. The type of improvements he will have to make will be marginal at best. A guy like JH for instance already jumped a foot better at the same age and he had a lot of room to improve his speed on the runway. He also had ideal size....hence why his ceiling is much higher than AJ's in the long jump.

Football will require him to gain muscle, particularly upper body strength, which is counter productive to his training for long jump. There is no way in god's green earth he can get to 27 feet if he is still training for football. Plus as you said, most long jumpers hit their stride around 25+ years old. I'm assuming he wants to compete in the 2016 games at 21ish, while playing football, while being 5 10, ummmm good luck with that, it's not happening.
 
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ATP we know three things: 1) T&F is a big factor 2) We all have no clue where he's heading. 3) Cassie is the HOTTEST VS Angel lol
 
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I really do hope UF keeps selling that angle, because when he goes and talks to a guy like Mike Powell who coaches out in CA, he is going to tell him that doing both sports in college, much less a sport like football, is not going to work for him if he is serious about track. If he wants to just compete in LJ and track and play football that is fine, but if he is being told he can be a medal contender and play football, well people are lying to him.
 
Will Claye - bronze medalist 5'10 1/2 160 lbs 10.7 100m

You're right, it can't be done

Good job moron, use an outlier that snuck into bronze in one of the worst Olympic long jump competitions in the past 30 years as a good comparison. Over the past 30 years most Olympic medal contenders are jumping a minimum of 27 feet and the great ones are jumping 28, oh and these guys are 25+ years old, they are singularly training in track, and typically 6'2 or higher. But yes keep selling a kid like Adoree that being 5'10, 21 years old, playing football....that he still has a good chance of going to the Olympics LOL.

If he intends to overcome his limitation and disadvantage of muscle development bc of his youth compared to others in the Olympic trials, his lack of ideal height and length, and then make things even more unrealistic by playing SEC football which leads to injuries, muscle fatigue and counter productive weight problems.....yes please keep lying to the kid. Some of you are clueless.
 
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good job moron, use an outlier that snuck into bronze in one of the worst Olympic long jump competitions in the past 30 years as a good comparison. Over the past 30 years most Olympic medal contenders are jumping a minimum of 27 feet and the great ones are jumping 28, oh and these guys are 25+ years old and singularly training in track, and typically 6'2 or higher. But yes keep selling a kid like Adoree that being 5'10, 21 years old, playing football....that he still has a good chance of going to the Olympics LOL. If he intends to overcome his muscle development bc of his age, his lack of ideal height and length, and then play football which leads to injuries, muscle fatigue and counter productive weight.....yes please keep lying to the kid. Some of you are clueless.
So you're saying there's a chance?
 
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CB Jmo but you maybe selling AJ and his parents short if you think they havent spoken with some of the better T&F coaches and trainers in the country. If he doesnt have a real chance at the sport they would have told him so. Kid was tearing up Fla and Tx meets before football schools knew his name. Does he have Olympic talent? Not sure but hes a legit college track kid. That will only get better with the type of coaching he get somewhere.
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CB Jmo but you maybe selling AJ and his parents short if you think they havent spoken with some of the better T&F coaches and trainers in the country. If he doesnt have a real chance at the sport they would have told him so. Kid was tearing up Fla and Tx meets before football schools knew his name. Does he have Olympic talent? Not sure but hes a legit college track kid. That will only get better with the type of coaching he get somewhere.
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Where you think AJ ends up HG?
 
CB Jmo but you maybe selling AJ and his parents short if you think they havent spoken with some of the better T&F coaches and trainers in the country. If he doesnt have a real chance at the sport they would have told him so. Kid was tearing up Fla and Tx meets before football schools knew his name. Does he have Olympic talent? Not sure but hes a legit college track kid. That will only get better with the type of coaching he get somewhere.
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Of course he is a college T&F guy. He's a talented kid. Making the US Olympic team is entirely a different kind of animal than just being a good college T&F guy. You do realize he would be competing vs the best US athletes from the past 10 years correct? Guys that have been training for many many years, with top coaches as well, and not playing football right? With serious training for the next 5+ years, yes he could make the Olympic team...that is a big if with some of the limitations i've pointed out, but he can do it with great coaching, and a lot of hard work. However, that is based on the reality of not playing SEC football and focusing on T&F. There is absolutely, positively no way he is going to be an elite long jumper and playing SEC football at UF, UT or LSU. This is not about crushing his dreams, this is about reality. He has the ability to excel at one or the other, unfortunately the skills and training required to be elite at both will not translate well to the other sport. If LSU and UF are selling him on being a possible Olympic contender in LJ, they are clearly lying their asses off to get him, which in the world of SEC recruiting is becoming typical. If LSU and UF are just telling him he can play both sports and not using the "our coach sent the last 2 kids to the olympics angle" which we already know UF has been doing, well that is pretty unethical.
 
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