The Atlanta Braves (Chipper Jones Edition)

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Vercingetorix said:
Texas has the richest boosters in the country, the best/easiest recruiting situation in the country, a great city to live in, and a conference that should provide it with an easy path to the playoff. They've only had five different coaches since the 1950s. Those are the criteria that coaches are supposed to care about, and Texas is right at the top on all of them. If it's not the #1 job in the country then it's damn close. The only negative is all the media stuff that Mack Brown was supposedly required to do as part of the Longhorn Network, and I'd imagine that somebody like Saban could make most of that disappear as a condition of taking the job.

The idea that A&M is a better job now is just silly.
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New day, old timer.
 
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zjcvols said:
Other than the SEC, I don't understand how TAMU is a better job than Texas.
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I don't want to get into a round about in which a useless topic gets beaten into the ground when a simple agree to disagree works (like always) but the four points he made are completely irrelevant
 
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TBrown said:
I don't want to get into a round about in which a useless topic gets beaten into the ground when a simple agree to disagree works (like always) but the four points he made are completely irrelevant
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Ok. Fair enough.
 
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TBrown said:
I don't want to get into a round about in which a useless topic gets beaten into the ground when a simple agree to disagree works (like always) but the four points he made are completely irrelevant
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One of his four points was money. You can make the argument that Bama can stand dollar to dollar with Texas, but we'll never get to a day where money is irrelevant when weighing job opportunities. You may be right about the other three though.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
One of his four points was money. You can make the argument that Bama can stand dollar to dollar with Texas, but we'll never get to a day where money is irrelevant when weighing job opportunities. You may be right about the other three though.
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Bama can stand dollar for dollar to the point of keeping a football coach.

This isn't Seattle beating everyone's offer by 65 million and making something a no brainer. It's a couple hundred thousand dollars. They'll find it.
 
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TBrown said:
New day, old timer.
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On the one side, you have two years of media attention based on the simultaneous move to the SEC and the arrival of the best player in their program's entire history. On the other, you have a hundred years of history. Over the long term, history almost always wins out over the flavor of the month.

If they replace Brown with a the right coach, they'll be in the playoff within two years. Meanwhile A&M will be just another mid-level SEC west team.
 
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Apparently butch is the fourth highest paid coach in the land, less than 700k behind Saban, and makes twice what malzahn does

Also, Alabama AD raked in 125M last year. They can't afford to give Saban a raise? Ok
 
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TBrown said:
I don't want to get into a round about in which a useless topic gets beaten into the ground when a simple agree to disagree works (like always) but the four points he made are completely irrelevant
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Coaches don't care about money? Coaches don't care about the path to a championship? Coaches don't care about where they live? Coaches don't care about recruiting bases, and how challenging it is?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
On the one side, you have two years of media attention based on the simultaneous move to the SEC and the arrival of the best player in their program's entire history. On the other, you have a hundred years of history. Over the long term, history almost always wins out over the flavor of the month.

If they replace Brown with a the right coach, they'll be in the playoff within two years. Meanwhile A&M will be just another mid-level SEC west team.
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Like I said, agree to disagree.
 
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TBrown said:
Bama can stand dollar for dollar to the point of keeping a football coach.

This isn't Seattle beating everyone's offer by 65 million and making something a no brainer. It's a couple hundred thousand dollars. They'll find it.
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Texas was built on the oil industry. Alabama was built on Stuckey's. What's Alabama going to do if a group of Texas boosters decides to give Saban an offer at, say, $15-20 million a year?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Texas was built on the oil industry. Alabama was built on Stuckey's. What's Alabama going to do if a group of Texas boosters decides to give Saban an offer at, say, $15-20 million a year?
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Give him 15-20M.

Bama can easily match Texas.
 
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I wonder how much the same things that bothered Urban Meyer at UF will weigh on Saban's decision. They're going to go 12-1 with a Sugar Bowl appearance this year and most Bama fans will probably see this season as a failure. It's not like he's probably going to coach 10-15 more years, so he could spend his final years rebuilding the Texas program, which wouldn't be that difficult for him IMO, or he can stay at Bama where it'll be NC or bust EVERY season.
 
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Mack was meeting with the Alabama AD to become a booster for Bama to ensure Nicky stays there instead of going to Texas after they forced him out.

IMHO.
 
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zjcvols said:
Give him 15-20M.

Bama can easily match Texas.
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That wasn't even worth responding to, Z.

There are two coaches that make 5M. You're a dumbass if you think Texas is going to offer him 20. You're even dumber if you think Alabama won't match. It will come down to what Saban wants to do and that's it.

Sure Austin is a great place to live. You're talking about a man who eats the same ****ing thing for lunch every single day because he doesn't want to waste the time or the energy deciding what he wants to eat. You think he goes sightseeing?

Bama is doing ok recruiting. The more apt comparison since we were talking about the best job in Texas-- how is Texas A&M recruiting base any different than Texas GREAT recruiting base?
 
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zjcvols said:
Give him 15-20M.

Bama can easily match Texas.
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I am not sure that you young people appreciate the vast differences in wealth between the states of Texas and Alabama.

I doubt they'll want to -- if I were Texas, I might well prefer to go after a younger guy like Malzahn myself -- but if Texas wanted to just damn the torpedoes and outbid them, they could make Alabama cry uncle.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I am not sure that you young people appreciate the vast differences in wealth between the states of Texas and Alabama.

I doubt they'll want to -- if I were Texas, I might well prefer to go after a younger guy like Malzahn myself -- but if Texas wanted to just damn the torpedoes and outbid them, they could make Alabama cry uncle.
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You think they're goin to pay a football coach 30+ million when the next highest would be makin less than 5?

Ok
 
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