Recruiting Forum: Football Talk IX

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OldVol49vfl said:
Heard on the radio earlier that the selection committee for the playoff next year will not necessarily be looking at the top four teams. They will be looking at rankings and conference champions and not having more than one team from a conference. You could actually have a 13-0 #1 team, a 11-2 # 4 team, a 11-1 # 6 team and a 11-2 # 8 team playing for the national title and two more 1 loss teams left out because of their conference ties. Not sure that this will be accepted any better than the BCS system especially by the fans of those schools that get left out. This was supposed to be from an ESPN report.
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#1. For the SEC not to have a chance to have two teams playing, I don't think many people in the South will find that acceptable.

#2. How would you feel if your team was in the top 4 and didn't make the playoff? If this happens, there could be a lot of violence. I just don't see how this will be deemed acceptable.

This is much worse than the two team setup, if true (I also heard this today). It is obviously designed to make it harder on the SEC. Someone is pulling a fast one - or at least trying to.
 
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i2amavol said:
#1. For the SEC not to have a chance to have two teams playing, I don't think many people in the South will find that acceptable.

#2. How would you feel if your team was in the top 4 and didn't make the playoff? If this happens, there could be a lot of violence. I just don't see how this will be deemed acceptable.

This is much worse than the two team setup, if true (I also heard this today). It is obviously designed to make it harder on the SEC. Someone is pulling a fast one - or at least trying to.
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Agreed. The whole idea was dumb. It's much easier to pick the right two teams than the right four teams. There's a much larger gap between #2 and #3 than #4 and #5.

Is there any question that the championship should be FSU/Auburn this year? No. Who would be the other two teams if it was next year? How can you decide between 2 of Alabama, Ohio St., Michigan St., Stanford and Baylor???
 
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VolGee4 said:
But Auburn is out if they lose. It was a playoff game for them. It doesn't always have to be a must win for both teams.
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If you have to win your conference to win the National Championship then, IMO, that game and the SEC Championship as well as the remainder of the regular season, are equally important as they are now. Bama knew of they lost, they were out. Auburn knew if they lost they were out. That makes it exciting.

You essentially are adding pigtails to the playoff bracket. It's uncommon for the conference champion to have not played the second best team in the conference at some point and if it's a situation where they played and the conference champion lost, it would be uncommon for the conference champion to be ranked higher than all the other conference champions.

It wouldn't be awesome every single year, but I think it would be good more often than not.

This season you would probably have FSU, Auburn, Stanford, and Michigan State as your 4 teams. I think that would be better than FSU, AU, UA, and MSU.

I'd rather see Baylor than MSU but if they had beaten Okie State Saturday in a conference title game, that might have happened.

Idk I definitely see your side of it I'm just of a different opinion.
 
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JacketVol said:
Got it!

Remember your avi before. You would be fool to even think to do that with her by your side. :loco:
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OldVol49vfl said:
Heard on the radio earlier that the selection committee for the playoff next year will not necessarily be looking at the top four teams. They will be looking at rankings and conference champions and not having more than one team from a conference. You could actually have a 13-0 #1 team, a 11-2 # 4 team, a 11-1 # 6 team and a 11-2 # 8 team playing for the national title and two more 1 loss teams left out because of their conference ties. Not sure that this will be accepted any better than the BCS system especially by the fans of those schools that get left out. This was supposed to be from an ESPN report.
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Normal bias in the face of reality (see ND last year, OSU this year, etc) will ruin this system. Who here really doesn't think a one loss, say USC, would get in before Tenn, regardless of ranking?

Seems there will be more controversy with this than with the BCS.
 
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rjd970 said:
Normal bias in the face of reality (see ND last year, OSU this year, etc) will ruin this system. Who here really doesn't think a one loss, say USC, would get in before Tenn, regardless of ranking?

Seems there will be more controversy with this than with the BCS.
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Eh, there has never been more than 4 deserving teams in 20 years. Really the only year they got it dead wrong was leaving out an undefeated auburn because they were ranked low in the preseason. They were clearly the best team.

This playoff will make sure the two best teams have a shot even if the morons out there refuse to rank the two best teams in the top 2.
 
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SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 9m
Heisman finalists:
Jameis Winston - FSU
Jordan Lynch - NIU
Johnny Manziel - TAMU
Tre Mason - AUB
A.J. McCarron - ALA
Andre Williams - BC
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 9m
Heisman finalists:
Jameis Winston - FSU
Jordan Lynch - NIU
Johnny Manziel - TAMU
Tre Mason - AUB
A.J. McCarron - ALA
Andre Williams - BC
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Am I alone in not caring even a little about who wins the heisman? Seems like the homecoming king award, politics and popularity. You telling me there's only been one defensive player in recent history that's been the best college football player? Come on.
 
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BhamVol14 said:
I know people are gonna say I'm wearing the orange glasses and everything, but I see this team improving. Why? I believe that Butches system is one you have to completely understand and it has to be fully put in, I don't think thats been the case by a long shot.

Anyone who has researched Butches career has seen that the same thing happened at Cincinnati where he only won 4 games in his first year but the next year turned it around to win 10 games. Now I'm not saying we are gonna win 10 games next year, we might not evan have an improved record but there is no doubt in my mind this team will improve a lot.

We didn't have the depth this past year to go a whole season hanging with teams either, thats why we trailed off in the end. With AJ hopefully coming back, Curt being fully healthy and providing some pass rush with Vereen, and our Quarterbacks having more of a grasp on the system, I think things are going exactly how butch wanted them too.

My worries, the defensive side of the ball, I don't think we lived up talent and experience wise on the DL, but I think that position will be about the same as it was last year.

People seemed most worried about our Oline, lets be honest our oline didn't play near their potential this past year. I think we see a little drop off but not as much as people would think with our quarterbacks more experienced and being able to make more checks and having more control of the oline.

Sorry if all this has be said, but it's just my 2 cents.

Go Vols :hi:
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I think the pieces to improve are going to be there, albeit young and inexperienced. How much is the question.

I think the offense will be much improved simply with better QB play. The O line will be youthful but talented. Not worried about the skill positions...they will be improved.

Defensively we lose some experience, but I like the depth we are building on this side. Talented and deeper, but young.

I think we improve next year. More talent coming in than what we are losing. Jmo.
 
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jave36 said:
Am I alone in not caring even a little about who wins the heisman? Seems like the homecoming king award, politics and popularity. You telling me there's only been one defensive player in recent history that's been the best college football player? Come on.
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I haven't cared in years. The wall of heisman winners has little merit in my honest opinion. It's trash and does not reflect the elite of the game.
 
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A 4 team playoff comes closer than a 2 team BCS to determining a true NC IMO. The two team BCS basically cuts out multiple other conferences from having one loss teams to get in since the SEC will get in. Those other conferences are limited to which and how many SEC OOC games that can be scheduled to improve their standing and SOS. As an example who plays against Auburn if FSU had one loss along with Baylor, Michigan State, Bama, etc. We saw that play out with LSU/Bama II recently. The 4 team resolves the issue better as well as for the undefeated that gets in by virtue of a weak schedule - such as FSU and almost, Ohio State.

I am just not a big fan of a committee determining the participants. I believe it needs to go 8 for it be closer to right and forget the committee. Take the major conference champs and the remaining at large with the best composite ranking from several reputable polls. Maybe after fighting over it for another dozen years it will happen.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 9m
Heisman finalists:
Jameis Winston - FSU
Jordan Lynch - NIU
Johnny Manziel - TAMU
Tre Mason - AUB
A.J. McCarron - ALA
Andre Williams - BC
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Jameis should win this in a landslide. I'm glad Tre Mason got invited. He's been sooo underrated all year long.
 
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jave36 said:
Am I alone in not caring even a little about who wins the heisman? Seems like the homecoming king award, politics and popularity. You telling me there's only been one defensive player in recent history that's been the best college football player? Come on.
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I've not really cared for the past few years.
 
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