Recruiting Forum: Football Talk IX

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#8,980
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The Breakerboy said:
It looks simple but it's not at all.
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What you guys are missing is that you make Nick Marshall beat you with the pass. If Malzahn finds a QB who can also pass well, then it is lethal. He doesn't have that in Marshall. Just look at the LSU game. The elements were part of it, but Auburn had over 200 rushing yards, and Marshall had to throw it 33 times. He threw 2 INT's, and they lost. If you force Marshall to throw that much, Auburn is not winning. I am not saying the execution is simple, but the strategy is.
 
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VolGee4 said:
What you guys are missing is that you make Nick Marshall beat you with the pass. If Malzahn finds a QB who can also pass well, then it is lethal. He doesn't have that in Marshall. Just look at the LSU game. The elements were part of it, but Auburn had over 200 rushing yards, and Marshall had to throw it 33 times. He threw 2 INT's, and they lost. If you force Marshall to throw that much, Auburn is not winning. I am not saying the execution is simple, but the strategy is.
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That is easier said than done. If Nick Saban could not force Auburn to the air, do you think that Missouri can?
 
#8,982
#8,982
Wonder if we will see more guys advised to leave the team like Smith. Guys who have literally no shot at breaking the depth chart and are taking up a roster spot. Carson, Harris,Orta,Tino come to mind.
 
#8,983
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vol2002 said:
I'm not sure yet what I think we will do next year, but I am sure this prediction is unreasonable. They are setting themselves up for disappointment. We are taking 35 players this cycle, which should tell everyone what CBJ thinks about the roster he currently has. And I'm not sure it's fair to expect those 35 players to be All-Conference in their first year.
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Think about this....with 35 new guys coming in and the guys that RS'd this year (about 10 or so? maybe more?), over half of our 85 guys on scholly will be going into next season having never played a snap of cfb. I know a few of the guys that RS'd this year played a few snaps in the first 3 games or so, but still.

Also, speaking about what CBJ thinks about the current roster, his comments recently about how tough this offseason would be and how he's gonna find the guys that will give their all for Tennessee makes it pretty clear to me that we'll be seeing quite a few guys deciding to go elsewhere. We've actually already started to see it with Dallas, Posey, and the new rumors about T Smith leaving. I hate to say it, but for the most part, the more of DD's guys that leave the better off we'll be.

We do have some key starters coming back (assuming AJJ stays & add Maggitt) at LB, in the secondary, at WR, and we'll have to wait and see about QB. If we're gonna overachieve next year (8 wins or more?) we're gonna have to have all the juco's come in and start or at least be solid contributors, these Fr (true or RS) will have to add solid depth and not play like Fr, and we'll need some of the new guys (juco, RS Fr, or true FR) to be impact players. Impact players like Jamal Lewis, Deon Grant, Eric Berry, Kelly Washington, Charlie Garner, CP, etc. They don't necessarily have to be as good as those mentioned bc those are some of the best impact guys ever at UT but we need a few to be somewhat close. We need difference makers. Period.

We've got a ton of wholes to fill and will be young and inexperienced in several areas. I wouldn't expect too much with over 50% of 118 playing their first year of cfb in the sec. Then again, as talented as a lot of the new guys are, who knows? They may surprise us. I wouldn't bet the farm, though.
 
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Tux said:
That is easier said than done. If Nick Saban could not force Auburn to the air, do you think that Missouri can?
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No, never said that. I said that Alabama's defensive line isn't as good this year. I also said Alabama should have still won the game. If Auburn had a better defense, they would be dominant. Their offense will run and score. But if you limit them to mid twenties, then you can beat them. No, I am not sure that Mizzou can do that but that wasn't the discussion.
 
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I'm still amazed at how the talk all week has been about if aub will jump osu. Nobody is giving Mich St a chance in hell. Same for mizz, and they're favored to beat aub!

I think Mich St and Mizz both win. IF that happens, surely people would vote Mizz over bama, wouldn't they? Since they just beat the team that beat bama and their only loss was to usce in OT bc of their kicker and with their backup qb. I have a feeling the computers would rank bama ahead of mizz though. If bama somehow backs into another NCG I'm gonna riot!
 
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Aesius said:
I just want 6 wins.

Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, South Carolina, Vandy, and Kentucky is our easiest path to a bowl.

USCe and Vandy should be worse next year. Georgia and Florida are very winnable too.
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Utah State is playing for the MWC championship, so they are no slouch either. And OU is OU. Our out of conference is harder than most think.

Having said that, OU is trending downward, and might set us up for a good start 2014!
 
#8,992
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I was just think about mizz players and they seem to coach up alot of two and 3 star players, especially on the d line. That coach is either the best d line coach in cfb or the best at giving and hiding the roids. Aldon smith and justin smith on the 49ers are from Missouri. They have a good system for thier d line. I hope strip can have our guys playing like that.
 
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1. Whoever said that the FF is becoming over positive about next season obviously hasn't spent enough time there. There are still many people there who are skeptical about the team's chances of going to a bowl next year.

2. I really believe that Michigan St. has a good chance to beat Ohio state with their defense and run game. Duke beating FSU would be an even bigger miracle than Auburn beating Bama. Auburn should beat Mizzou as long as they stay with their running game.

3. I'm not sure yet what record Tennessee will have next year, but I'm pretty sure we will make a bowl next year.
 
#8,996
#8,996
All about matchups. I think Stanford would destroy Auburn the same way they beat Oregon each year. Physical dline and fast linebackers. I don't think Ohio State is even a top 7 team. My opinion is that FSU and Bama are the most balanced teams in country. I also think they are the best teams.

Bama however had their chance and blew it. Time for the winner of this afternoons game to get a shot at someone. If FSU and Ohio State lose I have no problem with Bama getting another shot. I would disagree with them getting a nod over Missouri however to get it.
 
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BoseefusTheVol said:
OSU, if they beat Mich State deserve to be in the championship game more than Auburn or Mizzou. Big10 is an excellent conference.
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#8,998
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This year is a perfecr example of why a 4 team playoff is as big of a joke as the current BCS. Even if they went with the whole conference champions thing they would still be leaving one of the big 5 champs out. Even 8 won't be much help. They just need to go to 16 teams, all the conferences champions get in, the highest ranked independent and then the 5 highest ranked at large teams. They also need to make sure they use a totally independent poll to determine these rankings, not allow any other polls to influence the poll, and not release the first poll until the halfway mark of the season.
 
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JFBanicki said:
This year is a perfecr example of why a 4 team playoff is as big of a joke as the current BCS. Even if they went with the whole conference champions thing they would still be leaving one of the big 5 champs out. Even 8 won't be much help. They just need to go to 16 teams, all the conferences champions get in, the highest ranked independent and then the 5 highest ranked at large teams. They also need to make sure they use a totally independent poll to determine these rankings, not allow any other polls to influence the poll, and not release the first poll until the halfway mark of the season.
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16 would be the best, but 8 is a big improvement from 4. Most years the #9 team won't have a legitimate gripe for getting a shot at the NC. The debate between 4 and 5 will pretty much always be controversial though.
 
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