Recruiting Forum: Football Talk IX

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Here is my 2 cents on this season and the coaching staff:

1. I thought at the beginning of the year that this was a 7-5 team (wins over AP, WKU, USA, Mizzou, AU, Vandy, and UK. Losses over Oregon, Florida, UGA, USCe, and UA), with a possible 8-4 season if we beat UGA or USCe. This was all under the assumption that we had a decent roster and that Mizzou and Auburn was similar to how they were last year. After watching this season, I know now that we aren't as talented as I thought we were, and that I greatly underestimated Auburn and Mizzou.

2. I'm as disappointed as everyone else here that we didn't make a bowl this year. However, I'm not going to put all of the blame this season on Butch. Were there times that him and his staff made questionable calls? Sure. There were also times that his coaching staff made great calls and good adjustments (which to be honest, I rarely ever saw that from Dooley and his staff). He also doesn't have the pieces to effectively run his system. Recruiting will be crucial to rebuilding this program. It will take a few great recruiting classes to make Tennessee elite again, but Butch is off to a great start.

Edit: Forgot one last thing. I realize that player development and play calling is just as important as recruiting. However, we need to see another year of this coaching staff before we declare that they can't coach in the SEC.
 
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Vol knight said:
Here is my 2 cents on this season and the coaching staff:

1. I thought at the beginning of the year that this was a 7-5 team (wins over AP, WKU, USA, Mizzou, AU, Vandy, and UK. Losses over Oregon, Florida, UGA, USCe, and UA), with a possible 8-4 season if we beat UGA or USCe. This was all under the assumption that we had a decent roster and that Mizzou and Auburn was similar to how they were last year. After watching this season, I know now that we aren't as talented as I thought we were, and that I greatly underestimated Auburn and Mizzou.

2. I'm as disappointed as everyone else here that we didn't make a bowl this year. However, I'm not going to put all of the blame this season on Butch. Were there times that him and his staff made questionable calls? Sure. There were also times that his coaching staff made great calls and good adjustments (which to be honest, I rarely ever saw that from Dooley and his staff). He also doesn't have the pieces to effectively run his system. Recruiting will be crucial to rebuilding this program. It will take a few great recruiting classes to make Tennessee elite again, but Butch is off to a great start.
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The 2013 class was pretty good, so I will say three more recruiting classes. I do believe that we are contending for the East in two years though, without a full recruiting cycle from Butch. 2014 to me is still a toss up year, but i'm hoping we improve by two wins (3 with a bowl win) and at least show we deserve to be in the other games.

Early predictions......2014 8-5, 2015 10-3, 2016 playoffs ?
 
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Marcus Mariota to return to Oregon next year. Interesting.... Wonder if this will have any doing with Hundley now?
 
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BaldBiker said:
The 2013 class was pretty good, so I will say three more recruiting classes. I do believe that we are contending for the East in two years though, without a full recruiting cycle from Butch. 2014 to me is still a toss up year, but i'm hoping we improve by two wins (3 with a bowl win) and at least show we deserve to be in the other games.

Early predictions......2014 8-5, 2015 10-3, 2016 playoffs ?
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This is where I'm at also. I do think we have a shot at 8-5 with a bowl win next year, and 2015 is when things will get really exciting.
 
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I4Jay said:
Palardy gets an 'A' ... Through out all this adversity, I don't think I've ever been more proud of one individual's perserverence.


Also,
I would be totally ecstatic if 56 played DE next season. (pipe dream,I know.)
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I don't think it is all that much of a pipe dream. It will be interesting to see if/how we get Maggit, JRM, And Vereen on the field at the same time next season.
 
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Mike4Vols said:
I'm quoting this whole damn thing 'cause I think I think it's worth sharing again.

Pure. Freaking. Genius.
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Didn't read it the first time but I'm 100% in agreement with it. If I weren't on mobile I would go back and like it.

I wouldn't call it a huge disappointment but it wasn't a successful season. We needed 6 wins and we needed an upset win.

We got the upset and that was a really good win, but we needed either the UGA or Vandy game for me to be happy with it.

That said, we're not playing with a full deck and we won't be next year, either. I think people who are talking about staff turnover or using terms like "unacceptable" are morons.
 
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Union City lost their 1st game this year and haven't lost since. Play South Pittsburgh for the State Championship Friday. Good luck boys.
 
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SCtiger said:
I think I am correct - 4 star ranking tomorrow, JUCO ranking on Thursday, and update team rankings on Friday.
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Ok thanks, I think a couple guys like Bryant, Johnson, Coleman Thomas, and maybe ever Elliot Berry could get bumps.
 
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unioncityvol said:
Union City lost their 1st game this year and haven't lost since. Play South Pittsburgh for the State Championship Friday. Good luck boys.
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I still don't know how you all lost to McKenzie. They were dreadfully terrible this year. Good luck to Union City in the State Championship! I remember a couple years ago my school put you all out on a 2 point conversion.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I don't think it is all that much of a pipe dream. It will be interesting to see if/how we get Maggit, JRM, And Vereen on the field at the same time next season.
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This would be a great line-up, and I think you will see it a good bit. When we get in pass rushing downs, I think Lambert moves to Tackle, Maggit slides down to end with Vereen on the other side. I personally think that JRM will be playing linebacker with AJ and Maggit next year.
 
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The three classes from 2010-2012 had 24 total 4 stars or better on ESPN. They didn't used to rank JUCOs, so we probably had a few more. However, 10 of those 24 guys, excluding the ones who went pro, left or got kicked off the team before their eligibility was up.

This class has 17 4 star or better guys and more are on the way. Unbelievable. If the attrition stays down, this class will propel us to several major postseason games.

Edit - I know, ESPN hates us and their rankings are terrible.
 
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AVolforLifenmeZac said:
I still don't know how you all lost to McKenzie. They were dreadfully terrible this year. Good luck to Union City in the State Championship! I remember a couple years ago my school put you all out on a 2 point conversion.
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I remember losing in the quarterfinals to Union City back in 2005 and then beating them in the first round the next year on the way to the State Championship. Good times.
 
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thadolphinman said:
This would be a great line-up, and I think you will see it a good bit. When we get in pass rushing downs, I think Lambert moves to Tackle, Maggit slides down to end with Vereen on the other side. I personally think that JRM will be playing linebacker with AJ and Maggit next year.
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Gotta think Weatherd will be rushing the passer on 3rd down too.
 
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