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We're not beating Oklahoma. Florida is possible but I wouldn't bet on it. Missouri is going to be great again next year.

I don't know much about Oklahoma but they finished 4th in the Big 12... I'll agree I'm being optimistic but....

and ALSO mizzou is losing a TON of that defense. and I think some of their receiving corps. and its not like they've been excellent in recruiting. Could change after the season they've had but Mizzou has been great against BAD SEC east teams with a mostly experienced group.
 
Hey guys, you know what would really help our team next year? If they had to learn new schemes yet again under new coordinators.

That's the recipe for success. If things don't go your way in a season, just fire the coordinators and plug in some new guys. Fail proof, right?
 
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I hope y'all are taking into account the talent they had to work with. Sure they could've done a little better but we had Propst and Arnold see playing time on D and little to no receiving help on offense. At least give them a chance to play with some young talent before you cut them loose.

I am.
 
Hey guys, you know what would really help our team next year? If they had to learn new schemes yet again under new coordinators.

That's the recipe for success. If things don't go your way in a season, just fire the coordinators and plug in some new guys. Fail proof, right?

If you make the correct hire to begin with thats all that matters .
 
I want to f***ing vomit that we've stooped to this level.

We've been at this level for six years running. And my guess is that we will have at least one more year of it before better days come.

Tonight actually gave me much hope, and brought me back from the ledge I was on after the Vandy game. The team didn't quit on Butch. There's something going on behind the scenes that is special, and that didn't exist under Dooley.

This year's team played the toughest schedule in school history, which included picking up the two best teams from the SEC West. We had a two deep littered with true freshmen and (former) walk-ons. The roster was so bad our starters on defense had to take an inordinate amount of snaps and were clearly wearing down. We lost our two best defensive tackles, lost two quarterbacks, our best wide receiver and had many players fighting injuries.

This year could have been much, much worse. Florida started with a bunch more talent, faced a raft of injuries and finished worse than we did.

In fact, an argument could be made that we had no truly bad losses and one really good win. (We all utterly despise losing to Vandy, but an objective third party observer might note that Vandy is an eight win team with a third year coach who has had time to build his roster, such as it is- as to Florida, they were a much better team when we played them).

Cal, NC State, Arkansas, Kentucky and probably others had terrible experiences with their first year coaches. Ours wasn't great but it was better.

As a point of reference, Clemson is 10-2. They played two teams that we did, beating UGA at home by 3 (we only lost by 3) and losing to USCe by two TDs (we won). My guess is Clemson has a much better two deep than we do.

The future is bright and Butch will win a lot of ball games for us. I'm very much back on the Butch train.

Sorry for the long post. Go Vols!
 
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We've been at this level for six years running. And my guess is that we will have at least one more year of it before better days come.

Tonight actually gave me much hope, and brought me back from the ledge I was on after the Vandy game. The team didn't quit on Butch. There's something going on behind the scenes that is special, and that didn't exist under Dooley.

This year's team played the toughest schedule in school history, which included picking up the two best teams from the SEC West. We had a two deep littered with true freshmen and (former) walk-ons. The roster was so bad our starters on defense had to take an inordinate amount of snaps and were clearly wearing down. We lost our two best defensive tackles, lost two quarterbacks, our best wide receiver and had many players fighting injuries.

This year could have been much, much worse. Florida started with a bunch more talent, faced a raft of injuries and finished worse than we did.

In fact, an argument could be made that we had no truly bad losses and one really good win. (We all utterly despise losing to Vandy, but an objective third party observer might note that Vandy is an eight win team with a third year coach who has had time to build his roster, such as it is- as to Florida, they were a much better team when we played them).

Cal, NC State, Arkansas, Kentucky and probably others had terrible experiences with their first year coaches. Ours wasn't great but it was better.

As a point of reference, Clemson is 10-2. They played two teams that we did, beating UGA at home by 3 (we only lost by 3) and losing to USCe by two TDs (we won). My guess is Clemson has a much better two deep than we do.

The future is bright and Butch will win a lot of ball games for us. I'm very much back on the Butch train.

Sorry for the long post. Go Vols!

I'm sure this is a great post.
 
if recruiting class of 2014 holds and is as good as advertised we really should do well next year. at least have a winning season.

i expect we'll be a little better than ole miss was this year. and they got 6 wins
 
Maybe we'll end up pretty good next year and win a bunch of games. The two teams going to the SECCG next week had losing records last year and Butch has a good track record in year 2 as a HC.

Looking forward to pumping sunshine this offseason. Gbo!
 
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Hard for me to see more than 5 wins looking ahead at next years schedules. Our freshman coming in will have to make huge impacts and we better hope all the JUCOs turn out to be playas
 
My problem:

I don't think our team is *better* next year even with all the new talent coming in. They'll have some major growing to do.
 
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Next year's schedule will be easier than this year's, we will have more talent and speed on the field, and it will be the 2nd year in the system.

We should win more than five games next year.
 
Maybe we'll end up pretty good next year and win a bunch of games. The two teams going to the SECCG next week had losing records last year and Butch has a good track record in year 2 as a HC.

Looking forward to pumping sunshine this offseason. Gbo!

I'm sure you will pump plenty.
 
Hey guys, you know what would really help our team next year? If they had to learn new schemes yet again under new coordinators.

That's the recipe for success. If things don't go your way in a season, just fire the coordinators and plug in some new guys. Fail proof, right?

So true. We have spent the last six years living through the counter argument to the idea that you can constantly cycle through coaches and thereby improve your results.

Give them time to recruit athletes to their systems and the judge them.
 
My problem:

I don't think our team is *better* next year even with all the new talent coming in. They'll have some major growing to do.

I think they'll have their fair share of face palm and "wow" moments. That's why I think we pull an upset at some point. Hopefully less face palms towards the end when we need to avoid them the most.
 
I think the realistic ones are but some think if we don't set records on each side of the ball every year we need a change. That's the last then we need.

When you continuously call the same plays that lose yards at the worst possible times, it doesn't take much to figure out someone sucks at being an OC...and that's what we have.
 
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