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1. Which QB has the strongest arm?

2. Which QB has the best wheels?

3. IYO will Worley be the starter all year?

4. Will the freshman see the field?

5. When teams stack the box to stop the run to force Worley to beat them, can he?

6. Of the 2 freshman, who will be the best?

7. Of the 4, who, if any, are better than Ainge?

1. Probably Ferguson

2. Dobbs is the most elusive, none of them are burners

3. I don't know. I think that depends on how he plays. He has to deliver the ball to guys in a position for them to go make yards after the catch. Something he didn't do well with Saturday night.

4. I think odds are you will probably see one of them.

5. I don't know. He has to go make the throws. His receivers have to get open. They haven't made enough plays in the passing game this pre-season.

6. Again, you are asking me to predict the future and I can't. I think both bring good qualities to the position. Now, who gets better when they are not getting a bunch of reps and you are game palnning and you have school, etc.

7. None of them throw the ball the way Erik can/could.

-Hubbs
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
1. Which QB has the strongest arm?

2. Which QB has the best wheels?

3. IYO will Worley be the starter all year?

4. Will the freshman see the field?

5. When teams stack the box to stop the run to force Worley to beat them, can he?

6. Of the 2 freshman, who will be the best?

7. Of the 4, who, if any, are better than Ainge?

1. Probably Ferguson

2. Dobbs is the most elusive, none of them are burners

3. I don't know. I think that depends on how he plays. He has to deliver the ball to guys in a position for them to go make yards after the catch. Something he didn't do well with Saturday night.

4. I think odds are you will probably see one of them.

5. I don't know. He has to go make the throws. His receivers have to get open. They haven't made enough plays in the passing game this pre-season.

6. Again, you are asking me to predict the future and I can't. I think both bring good qualities to the position. Now, who gets better when they are not getting a bunch of reps and you are game palnning and you have school, etc.

7. None of them throw the ball the way Erik can/could.

-Hubbs
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Didn't like the answer to the Ainge question. I tended to think Ainge was better than folks gave him credit for...but I was hoping one of those guys (freshmen) would best him.
 
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C-town Vol said:
Didn't like the answer to the Ainge question. I tended to think Ainge was better than folks gave him credit for...but I was hoping one of those guys (freshmen) would best him.
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The original question wasn't really answered though, as he did not answer if any of these freshman were better than Ainge. Rather he answered that Ainge had the better arm, which is not surprising as Ainge was elite in that category. That doesn't mean that Ferguson or dobbs aren't necessarily better qbs though
 
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darkgable said:
That's not a perception its reality. Doesn't mean that someone saying Strong turning down the job somehow makes things worse. Believe it or not no one is thinking about UT but us fans. Who sits around taking issue with what an announcer says about Strong and UT? They need to get over it and watch the game.
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Whatever. I watched the game. or at least part of it. I had other things to do today. I'm not taking issue with it, but it is what it is. He turned down UT in favor of another school. Many here believe UT is the best job ever, but he proves otherwise. It sucks hearing someone turn us down, but facts are facts.
 
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darkgable said:
That's not a perception its reality. Doesn't mean that someone saying Strong turning down the job somehow makes things worse. Believe it or not no one is thinking about UT but us fans. Who sits around taking issue with what an announcer says about Strong and UT? They need to get over it and watch the game.
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The announcers are never wrong. Look at the current Rivals recruiting rankings. Strong has Louisville way up at 17th with 25 commits (1620 points) while Butch has only been able to get the Vols to a current 2nd place with only 24 recruits (2311 points). That tells it all! This proves that Butch gets it and that the announcers don't know squat!
 
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C-town Vol said:
Didn't like the answer to the Ainge question. I tended to think Ainge was better than folks gave him credit for...but I was hoping one of those guys (freshmen) would best him.
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Take away the shoulder injury and take away his off the field issues and Ainge is still playing in the NFL right now.

I thought he lost alot of velcocity on his throws after shoulder injury his freshman year.
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
The only thing concerning was Worley not hitting North on the deep ball the other night. Or the other pass where if he led North, it would have been 6 again. What else would be concerning?
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The entire second string looking bad against probably the worst opponent that has stepped foot in Neyland Stadium in recent memory.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
You asked what else was concerning. Was just going solely off what your post said. My fault.
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Ohhh my bad. I see where you're coming from now. I was meaning for catbone to answer what else would be concerning about what Hubbs said. Yes, that is definitely a concern. We dis take our foot off the break a little, and only ran a handful of plays in the 2nd half, but we still should have put up more than 3 points
 
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LotteryPick said:
How?
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Can you read?

WR's have trouble getting open. A QB who is as inconsistent as his WR's. Two Freshmen who aren't any better than Ainge. A group of 4 QB's who run read option that don't have great speed.

If you're not at least a little concerned, you're fooling yourself.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Can you read? WR's have trouble getting open. A QB who is as inconsistent as his WR's. Two Freshmen who aren't any better than Ainge. A group of 4 QB's who run read option that don't have great speed.

If you're not at least a little concerned, you're fooling yourself.
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What ever happened to all the posters who claimed games were won and lost in the trenches?

We're finally dominate in the trenches, and all of sudden that no longer applies?
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
The only thing concerning was Worley not hitting North on the deep ball the other night. Or the other pass where if he led North, it would have been 6 again. What else would be concerning?
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Did not see the game but would have liked to see more than 2 sacks. Any thoughts from those able to watch the game?
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wU-Tang Vol said:
Ohhh my bad. I see where you're coming from now. I was meaning for catbone to answer what else would be concerning about what Hubbs said. Yes, that is definitely a concern. We dis take our foot off the break a little, and only ran a handful of plays in the 2nd half, but we still should have put up more than 3 points
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What's even more concerning is we got those 3 points as a result of a long kickoff return.

Taking the foot off the break to me means you play alot of younger guys that are not going to get to see the field much and tell them to continue to play hard and work on progressing. Regardless if this was the case its concerning. If he told the second and third string to go in there and tear em up, we sure looked horrible doing it. If he told them to go in there and take it easy on them at the start of the second half, I really don't like that approach and am not confident in our HC for the future with that kind of mentality.

I think its number one, and we have some extremely concerning depth issues.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
What's even more concerning is we got those 3 points as a result of a long kickoff return.

Taking the foot off the break to me means you play alot of younger guys that are not going to get to see the field much and tell them to continue to play hard and work on progressing. Regardless if this was the case its concerning. If he told the second and third string to go in there and tear em up, we sure looked horrible doing it. If he told them to go in there and take it easy on them at the start of the second half, I really don't like that approach and am not confident in our HC for the future with that kind of mentality.

I think its number one, and we have some extremely concerning depth issues.
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Go home man, you're drunk
 
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MockingVol said:
Go home man, you're drunk
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Nope. I just don't think throwing an entire half of football away and not working on getting your second and third stringers better is something a good football coach would do.

I dont think this is what happened by the way and already said that.

IMO we should never schedule AP or anyone of their caliber ever again in football.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
Can you read?

WR's have trouble getting open. A QB who is as inconsistent as his WR's. Two Freshmen who aren't any better than Ainge. A group of 4 QB's who run read option that don't have great speed.

If you're not at least a little concerned, you're fooling yourself.
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Just because the 2 freshmen don't have an arm like EA doesn't mean they won't be better. You don't need great speed to run a good read option. You need good reads, good fakes,and somewhat decent mobility. Speed is just a bonus. Your other points I completely agree
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
Nope. I just don't think throwing an entire half of football away and not working on getting your second and third stringers better is something a good football coach would do.

I dont think this is what happened by the way and already said that.

IMO we should never schedule AP or anyone of their caliber ever again in football.
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Well I guess I didn't know about all your coaching acumen. Butch should really listen to you, but if Butch fails I'm sure we can give you a shot as head coach.
 
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