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darkgable said:
Who Lane? Why can't this brotha get his act together? All that damn talent. Maybe its just a little injury or something.
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Was a bit tongue in cheek on my part in regards to Lane. I don't think he in the doghouse as we speak, but it seems like he's had his share of moments. He's MIA more than any player I've ever seen. But I hope he gets it together and has a good year. I look at the RB situation much like I do the QB situation. I don't give a damn who wins the job. Someone just step up and shine!!!!!!
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Sounds more like you didn't know he had really good career numbers and are trying to cover for it.

I can see it from a LB perspective, like how leading the league in tackles doesn't make AJ the best LB, but WRs have 4 repsonsibilities: get open, catch the ball and get yards, or block. Stats reflect how they do those things, probably better than any other position.
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Sounds like how I look at players. Taurean Poole ran for 1000 yards here and anybody will tell you I didn't like him one bit. Also DJ Hall quit in more than one game. Also how many games do you remember him dominating?
 
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darkgable said:
Everytime I see a Raijon Neal interview I hit the snooze button. What Runningback in the SEC when interviewed smiles during the entire interview? Six minutes of smiling. Where's Marlin when you need him?
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I would personally rather seeing him eating the hearts of chickens, ripped right out of their chests, and still beating just a bit.
 
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As for his team, the expectation is that Jones will name Justin Worley his starting quarterback on Monday, but the real storyline to watch next week is who gets the bulk of the number two reps. Will it be Nathan Peterman? Will it be Josh Dobbs? Or will it be the guy many kind of forgot about back in the spring and summer in Riley Ferguson. All three have had their moments in fall camp where they performed really well and all three has days and moments were it wasn't so guy. Ferguson's bad days seemed to come earlier in camp and it appears that he plays or practices better in 11 on 11 settings than he does in 1 on 1 or even 7 on 7 work. How Jones manages the reps behind his starting quarterback is going to be really interesting and pretty telling starting next week. Worley got almost the entire first-team reps Thursday, while Peterman did get many of the twos. Beyond that, Thursday was a day where Ferguson got a lot of third-team work while it appeared Dobbs had another one of Jones' maintenance days with little to no throwing.
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-VQ
 
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Rajion Neal seemed to take a major stride toward nailing down the starting tailback spot on Thursday as he garnered almost all the first-team reps. Marlin Lane has been impressive in his return, but Lane still hasn't shown the durability needed. Justus Pickett, after being in line to carve a clear role in the Vols' offense, has become a virtual non-factor simply because UT is awaiting a final word from the NCAA on Pickett's appeal for immediate eligibility. Once highly optimistic, Pickett's lack of work in the offense of late shows that optimism is on hold. Pig Howard and Marquez North appear in line to be two of the Vols' starting wideouts while Jason Croom and Josh Smith are among those in biggest competition for the third spot. Croom's key is consistency and physicality.
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-VQ
 
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Have not seen this posted.. CBJ interview article with 104.5 The Zone and getting Clay Travis to gush like he did speaks volumes..

Sending Signals Across the State - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics

"The Titans facilities are nice, Tennessee's facilities are spectacular," Travis said, comparing the complex to the practice facility of the state's NFL franchise.

"The Titans were recently valued by Forbes as a billion-dollar franchise and they have pretty good facilities. You walk in and say `that's a nice training room, that's a nice weight room, everything else associated with it.'

"Tennessee's blows it all out of the water."
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The Breakerboy said:
Sounds like how I look at players. Taurean Poole ran for 1000 yards here and anybody will tell you I didn't like him one bit. Also DJ Hall quit in more than one game. Also how many games do you remember him dominating?
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He played very well against us twice that I can think of. I honestly didn't follow Alabama after 2002 and I'm not sure I could remember specific games even if I had. I don't remember specific games where Meachem dominated either but I know he had some.

I don't know if the Poole comment was supposed to be a comparison or just an example of how you evaluate players. Even if Poole's thousand yard season put him top 10 all time in SEC history, he plays another position where stats can be more misleading.

I'm pretty comfortable putting him in the conversation.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
lol.

A few days ago I saw the rolled up towels under their arms on punt catching drills but this was new. Based on earlier post practice comments it must work because it appears we made a helluva lot more catches today than we normally hear about.
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Glad it's working, but it's going to be awful funny looking in a game, when our returners trot onto the field with towels under their arms and tennis balls in their hands.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
He played very well against us twice that I can think of. I honestly didn't follow Alabama after 2002 and I'm not sure I could remember specific games even if I had. I don't remember specific games where Meachem dominated either but I know he had some.

I don't know if the Poole comment was supposed to be a comparison or just an example of how you evaluate players. Even if Poole's thousand yard season put him top 10 all time in SEC history, he plays another position where stats can be more misleading.

I'm pretty comfortable putting him in the conversation.
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There's a reason guys like Meachem and others were drafted high but Hall wasn't.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
There's a reason guys like Meachem and others were drafted high but Hall wasn't.
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Great college players don't necessarily get drafted. Casey Clausen is probably the second best QB to ever wear orange but he didn't get drafted.

Also, plenty of guys who weren't great college players do. Bryce Brown?
 
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thomaseusin said:
Have not seen this posted.. CBJ interview article with 104.5 The Zone and getting Clay Travis to gush like he did speaks volumes..

Sending Signals Across the State - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
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Just goes to show that the big-time programs in College Football are all business and, in many aspects, surpass the NFL.

If the Titans are worth over a billion, I'd say UT football might double that, if someone were to place a monetary value upon UT football using the same criteria.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Great college players don't necessarily get drafted. Casey Clausen is probably the second best QB to ever wear orange but he didn't get drafted.

Also, plenty of guys who weren't great college players do. Bryce Brown?
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With time, I've come away with a new appreciation of Clausen, but I don't know if I'm ready to say 2nd best. Consider some of these names:

Heath Shuler
Tee Martin
Andy Kelly
Tony Robinson
Condredge Holloway

I know that wasn't the point of your post, but it just got me to thinking....
 
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UTMVol76 said:
With time, I've come away with a new appreciation of Clausen, but I don't know if I'm ready to say 2nd best. Consider some of these names:

Heath Shuler
Tee Martin
Andy Kelly
Tony Robinson
Condredge Holloway

I know that wasn't the point of your post, but it just got me to thinking....
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Bobby Scott?
 
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NMVol said:
Bobby Scott?
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Absolutely!

Condredge was before my time, but I heard so much about him, and Scott was right before him, correct? Also, I don't know any of the guys who played QB for The General, and I know it was a different time, different system, etc, but you also can't argue against the winning records those guys had.

For the purpose of these arguments though, I try to keep it more post-50's just because comparisons are more apples to apples.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Great college players don't necessarily get drafted. Casey Clausen is probably the second best QB to ever wear orange but he didn't get drafted.

Also, plenty of guys who weren't great college players do. Bryce Brown?
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Clausen couldn't hold Heath Shuler's jock strap. I'm not trying to deminish Clausen by any stretch....he's arguably top 3 and very likely top 5 but, before Manning, Shuler was the Gold standard under center for the Vols.

People tend to forget that both he and Peyton finished 2nd in the Heisman.

Damn Charlie Ward and Charles Woodsen.
 
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