Jay Graham has left Tennessee to go to FSU

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daniel3417 said:
Yeah, like two guys who don't love the Vols as much as many fans. Would you coach Tennessee even if the HC was someone you didn't get a long with?

Hell yes you would. So would I. The enormous paycheck would help, too.

Luckily, CBJ seems to be a quality man with high standards for his coaches, team, and family. CJG has had 8 jobs in 13 years. Maybe the guy who actually left is the one to blame.
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specifically, he has had now 6 coaching jobs in 8 years. Job hopping is normal, but that's a little much to still be just a position coach.
 
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RockyTop22 said:
this makes no sense at all why the hell would he do this. Not only will a lot of UT fans despise him, at least for a little, did he really have to leave after Butch went out of his way to keep him on this staff. PUNK move IMO
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Yeah, the fans, and Me on Volnation, were lobbying to keep Jay after Dooley was canned. I think Hart had put that in the deal. NOW THIS? Dangit, WTH is going on?
OK-------Lets hear the "rest of the story". Something in Denmark-------stinks.
 
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head1 said:
This is what the Jones haters have been waiting for.
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sad thing about our fanbase is that there ARE Jones haters. Hasn't been on the job 3 months or coached 1 snap of football, game or practice and some have already deemed him a failure. :crazy:
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Yeah, the fans, and Me on Volnation, were lobbying to keep Jay after Dooley was canned. I think Hart had put that in the deal. NOW THIS? Dangit, WTH is going on?
OK-------Lets hear the "rest of the story". Something in Denmark-------stinks.
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I think it's been pretty well spelled out. He probably didn't like the income disparity with Butch's buddies and didn't feel comfortable being the holdover. I don't blame the man for either and be happy he stayed through the recruiting season.
 
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@ErikAinge3: Real story on Coach Jay tomorrow on the EA Show! Don't believe everything you hear, if your scared...buy a dog!
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It's pretty important.

The VQ guys have said that we've been getting recruited against for having a lack of color on staff.
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WEll well. Be nice if we could all be just AMERICANS and COACHES, and not have to deal with ethnic jargon. OK------I DEMAND equal representation in CBB. Players and coaches. See how that sounds? Hire the best people---regardless. You think a minority REALLY wants to be hired for his color? HUH? BE Good, and you'll DO Good.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It's pretty important.

The VQ guys have said that we've been getting recruited against for having a lack of color on staff.
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Hey don't got to Tennessee they are all white.

Ok, I won't.

Yeah that sounds like sound recruiting technique.
 
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All_Vol said:
I think it's been pretty well spelled out. He probably didn't like the income disparity with Butch's buddies and didn't feel comfortable being the holdover. I don't blame the man for either and be happy he stayed through the recruiting season.
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AH HA. Well, if he WAS under the other position coaches salary wise, can't understand that--or blame Jay. Position coaches.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It's pretty important.

The VQ guys have said that we've been getting recruited against for having a lack of color on staff.
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This. If it didn't happen then this would be the first time that this was brought up about a UT staff, but this was brought up during the Dooley tenure as well.
 
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Bama and Ohio State have 2 coaches out of a staff of about 12 who are black.

It hasn't hurt Meyer or Saban in the slightest. While I don't dismiss that it carries some significance, kids only care about who can get me to the league and who can do it the fastest.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
sad thing about our fanbase is that there ARE Jones haters. Hasn't been on the job 3 months or coached 1 snap of football, game or practice and some have already deemed him a failure. :crazy:
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Sad that people can't accept opinions that aren't covered in orange.
 
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The Waco Kid said:
Bama and Ohio State have 2 coaches out of a staff of about 12 who are black.

It hasn't hurt Meyer or Saban in the slightest. While I don't dismiss that it carries some significance, kids only care about who can get me to the league and who can do it the fastest.
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Recent national titles allow you to bypass standards by which others have to abide.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It's pretty important.

The VQ guys have said that we've been getting recruited against for having a lack of color on staff.
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Yeah, that could be the problem. Ha!

We have a black president and you see how that has worked out. Some people voted for him just because he is black. Jimmy Carter is white and he is right there with Obama. It clearly is not about the color, but the ability. There are plenty of blacks capable of being great presidents, just as there are plenty of whites. We just need to elect the best, no matter the color. And we should hire coaches for their ability; not their color.

I am sick of hearing the race thing. I don't hear UT fans supporting players because they are one color or another. If they are wearing Orange, then they are one of us. All the trumped up division has gotten very old.

I was very excited to get Jay Graham back to UT, as I would have been to get Tee back, but they had rather be somewhere else.

The only color I care about is ORANGE! Let's get people in here who bleed orange instead of green.
 
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jim43 said:
Yeah, that could be the problem. Ha!

We have a black president and you see how that has worked out. Some people voted for him just because he is black. Jimmy Carter is white and he is right there with Obama. It clearly is not about the color, but the ability. There are plenty of blacks capable of being great presidents, just as there are plenty of whites. We just need to elect the best, no matter the color. And we should hire coaches for their ability; not their color.

I am sick of hearing the race thing. I don't hear UT fans supporting players because they are one color or another. If they are wearing Orange, then they are one of us. All the trumped up division has gotten very old.

I was very excited to get Jay Graham back to UT, as I would have been to get Tee back, but they had rather be somewhere else.

The only color I care about is ORANGE! Let's get people in here who bleed orange instead of green.
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Just because you don't care about race doesn't mean high school kids don't. I've only recently jumped on this bandwagon, but I've heard several different times that some kids are turned off by how white our staff is.
 
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Coach Butch Jones wants his guys. That's why we see no T on this staff either. He gave T a token interview to appease the fans. T was reported as saying the offer was laughable. If he wanted to keep CJG all he had to do was pay him. He wants his guys. If he succeeds it's all him. If he fails he has no excuses.
 
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Nothing we don't know, but thought I'd pass this along. I've talked to a few players, and they say things like this is what is keeping Tennessee from "rising to the top" or landing top recruits. A new position coach almost every year they have been in school for every guy currently on the team. Serious lack of stability in every area of the team.
 
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