Recruiting Forum: Football Talk II

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I don't see the reasoning that take Gundy over Strong. I'd be happy with Gundy and he will win here. I just think there are going to be quite a few teams who are kicking themselves for passing on Strong.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Appears that Gundy to Arkansas might be pre-mature. I still think Tennessee is trying to get it done tomorrow or Thursday at the latest. -Hubbs
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I'm all for Dave Hart doing due diligence but I can't get any work done until he hires a coach. I would appreciate it if he would hurry up.
 
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Office of the Chancellor | December 2012 | Notes from the Chancellor

Forgoing Contributions

For the next three years, the money the athletics department has given to the campus—an average of $6 million per year—will be reinvested in the athletics department. Relieving athletics of this commitment will allow the department to add $18 million to its bottom line over three years.
Let me be clear: We are not providing any state or academic funding to athletics; we simply have agreed to forgo the athletics department’s contributions to the campus for the next three fiscal years.
The athletics department will continue to pay debt service on garages.

What This Means to Academics

Most of the funding we’ve received from athletics has provided scholarships and fellowships. We will not reduce our commitment to students and will fund these initiatives from reserves and private gifts.
No currently funded programs will be impacted. However, we may not be able to commit resources to new initiatives.
I can assure you this will not impede progress on our journey to becoming a Top 25 public research university.

Attaining Financial Stability
We are one of only a handful of schools across the country that does not give state dollars to athletics.

A healthy football program pays for most of the other sports programs for our student-athletes and allows for the generous contributions the campus has received over the years.
If we don’t attain financial stability in athletics—and specifically our football program—we could see ourselves using other campus resources for our athletics program.

Overhauling athletics funding means more than improving the game on the field.
Historically, athletics has committed money to the campus at the beginning of each year, without regard to what their finances may look like at the end of the year. We need a more sustainable model where contributions are made after accounting for all expenses and obligations.
Athletics is in a period of transition, but we will help get it where we need it to be. We are committed to winning both on the field and in the classroom.
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John Helsley ‏@jjhelsley
Just got it from another strong source that Gundy has NOT been hired at Ark. And from another that Tenn not appealing... #okstate

Saw this in cliff notes. Im ok with this
 
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csprig9 said:
John Helsley ‏@jjhelsley
Just got it from another strong source that Gundy has NOT been hired at Ark. And from another that Tenn not appealing... #okstate

Saw this in cliff notes. Im ok with this
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Tell him we write mean articles about kids who do all the right things, and we don't have kids to know what it feels like.
 
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005 said:
Why
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I find him to be by far the most unknowledgeable writer about college football out there and cannot stand to read his garbage. I seriously think I could go over to the football forum and find people that are just as informed as he is. Was happy to see him leave ESPN, so I didn't have to see his crap every time I pulled up the page.
 
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I think Hart looks at Gundy as a more solid x an o's coach than strong and has been closer to that NC than strong has in a tougher conference . Strong seems to certainly have more promise when it comes to recruiting but that only goes so far . This year was a great example. Not saying strong couldn't get it done here , but just implying why Hart might favor Gundy.
 
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@BGHTheShow: RT @MattCouchSports: Mike Irwin: "Gundy said Arkansas presentation blew Tennessee's away."
 
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babyavi said:
I think Hart looks at Gundy as a more solid x an o's coach than strong and has been closer to that NC than strong has in a tougher conference . Strong seems to certainly have more promise when it comes to recruiting but that only goes so far . This year was a great example. Not saying strong couldn't get it done here , but just implying why Hart might favor Gundy.
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When was the last time a pass first team won a national title?
 
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babyavi said:
I think Hart looks at Gundy as a more solid x an o's coach than strong and has been closer to that NC than strong has in a tougher conference . Strong seems to certainly have more promise when it comes to recruiting but that only goes so far . This year was a great example. Not saying strong couldn't get it done here , but just implying why Hart might favor Gundy.
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I think it is less risk for Hart as well. If Gundy were to fail it would be hard to blame him. Gundy by all accounts has sown he can coach. I think more people would criticize Hart if he hired Strong, and he wasn't successful. When it is all said and done people are going to compare Strong to Gundy for the next several years to see if he got the right guy. Fair or not.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
@BGHTheShow: RT @MattCouchSports: Mike Irwin: "Gundy said Arkansas presentation blew Tennessee's away."
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I'm not going to read into that. Our presentation should be pretty straight forward.

"We have had two crappy coaches in a row. Don't make it three. We need to win, or I'm gone." - Dave Hart
 
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volstopfan14 said:
When was the last time a pass first team won a national title?
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I can't recall. Again , I'm not making the decision to hire anyone , however I can see the Gundy appeal . Strong to me is a better candidate for UTs needs, his ability to out recruit Franklin is a necessity. I think if he is offered the job, and if he brings some top OC then it's game on. At some point Hart needs to pull the trigger this week .
 
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I am so glad our coaching search has not reached the ridiculous proportions that Ark's has. For those clamoring for more information about UT's coaching search should see the cluster that the Hogs coaching search has become and be thankful our has not been handled that way so far. Plus, they have had since the Spring to get something done and STILL haven't.
 
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