Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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Well if you feel like that's what you need to do the I can't stop you.

Not being negative. In fact, you can go to my posts and see where I wanted Gruden and still would like to see him come to TN.

I'm not blind either...I can read all 323 articles out there and be convinced after reading the first 2 or 3 credible articles that its just not going to happen. This talk of smokescreen and comparing this to Saban is just ridiculous. These are grown men - professionals. They don't need smoke and mirrors. Gruden said no. I don't need to parse what he said 1000 different ways until I get the message I wanted either. Last time I checked no meant no.

Look, I get it. It's hard being a fan right now. No since in making it harder on yourself.

What do you want? All of us that believe to break and say how smart and correct you are. I will never understand people like you who love to just piss on people's parade. You must have some kind of inferiority complex or a wife that is over bearing. We get it. You don't believe it's happening.
 
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So which Lamonte client has the most to gain if we get rid of Hart? I can't stay away from this thread.....you just get sucked back in.

Not really insinuating that, but he has been known to run a PR circus that can play the other side... could explain a lot of shoddy media.
 
Anyone watch Channel 10 there in Knoxville? A poster in the Gundy thread said that their reporter on the evening news said that Hart/AD confirmed that they have interviewed Strong and Gundy.

Anyone see that?

I thought tennessee was not releasing "any dynamics of the search until after the search was over."

Why can't they just shoot straight with us
 
It' not about my choice to believe..

It's about the fact that there has not been a statement to anybody by Dave Hart or Jon Gruden period.

You can say that his agent said this, or the UT ad told Hubbs that.

You can't say Hart or Gruden has said squat.
you also CANNOT take people at their word..aka saban or meyer...this is not a court of law they are testifying to...its like someone asking you how you feel and you say fine but you are not fine but you do not want to tell them the whole story..lol. but this situation is a lot bigger
 

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My goodness man? You want me to cut your food, chew, and then feed you too? Go pick one off the many...

Ya know, it was fun for a while. Now I'm just going to ignore your ass. Best feature about VN.

Hopefully, my peeps in this thread won't quote you too much...
 
My goodness man? You want me to cut your food, chew, and then feed you too? Go pick one off the many...

Were still waiting on a direct source from gru or dave hart if none imo gtfo this is gruden thread don't try to slow the wheels, we finally got em turning full speed again and ur not gonna stop them. No direct quote please??
 
I thought tennessee was not releasing "any dynamics of the search until after the search was over."

Why can't they just shoot straight with us

local news said after the Cowboys game they would update the talk on UT coach on the news after the game and that WBIR that what I am waiting up for
 
Because "fantasy world" pisses me off. That term was uncalled for. His client has had negotiations and to belittle this fan base really makes me mad. I will wait cautiously. I really want this to happen.

lol... That was the point... Mission accomplished.
 
Jon Gruden not focus of Tennessee Volunteers' search for coach, sources say - ESPN

Here...one very credible article citing several sources...if we still disagree then we probably won't agree.

Not sure who you are trying to convince, but we've already come to the conclusion that Gruden isn't Hart's #1. The Boosters brokered the deal, but Hart isn't as big on getting Gruden as the boosters... we've known this for a while, hence why the TFP article was written, the booster told him to write it(confirmed), and we speculate it was to pressure Hart.
 
The issue isn't whether there are denials out there, there obviously are. The question is why is there such a disconnect between the insider info and the summary dismissal of it by LaMonte, et al. It reeks of trying to alter the public opinion because they were getting too close to the truth.
 
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