Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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RagingOrange said:
Check your facts, take a pill, and you took a wrong turn...its still safe to leave...


Btw, who gives a **** what you can or can not take...piss off flea.
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I quoted the news!!!!!!! Back off of me!!! I never said I didn't want him. I said I DO. Geeeeeeeesh. YOU take the pill! YOU re-read my posts and get off my back!!!!
 
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UT or Hart has not addressed the fan base,media or nobody and I believe if Hart is keeping Tn from hiring Gruden then you would think the Big Money boosters would step in and put a stop to Hart. I think Hart is a problem and he is wanting to be the man.What happens if the booster dont open their check books up for a Strong,Golden,Fedora then what does Hart do ?
Hart just needs to get the he11 out of Knoxville.Tn is getting ready to be set back into the dark ages.If they think it cant get much worse then they will find out.
This will end bad for the football program and if its not a big name hire then Neyland will be empty next fall.I dont see people just keep investing money is Dooley type coaches.I know I wont renew my tickets.I think the big money people need to step in and take this over.
 
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MFL said:
One big problem. They cant tell an AD what to do when he is going rogue. He will get to pick his coach and if it fails he's fired. If he had accepted the boosters choice he would not have been fired if it failed. Dont forget State laws are working for Hart. This is not private business. I do think your theory is exactly what happen. I could not have said it better. I dont blame carter or the others as they were simply listening to folks they thought to be in the know. What I dont get is why Hart choose silence. It's obvious Gruden liked the publicity. I'm not convinced Gruden ever intended to come to the college level to coach. He suks in my eyes now. Along with ESPN.
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Why the he!! Would our boosters have started planning a new coach after the Florida game? That makes no sense as it was our first loss. What if Dooley had won out? No way he gets fired after going 11-1, and they would have already negotiated a contract with Gruden?
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Maybe, its only a potential scenario.

We would have to fly a great deal farther to get to your planet. I never pretended to know what is going on I only shared what I heard from people that are always close to those things.

I have never said this but at this point anyone that cannot see you are the coattail rider that is so FOS making the proclamations you do. I have thought you were FOS since your last screen name.
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underrated post imo
 
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Vol-in-Bham said:
RockyTopSC: are you an OG? I can't keep it all straight. You have posted like you have some info in previous threads.
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I would not say I am in that group. Been in since the start. I have information from connections in the AD, Boosters (of which I am) and former players. Things I have been told are between what the OG's have and cuttinitclose have had. I know that all of those guys have been given info that was believed to be true. So much has leaked and been made up so fast it is hard to separate it all. I just know enough to say that it is not totally over. That is from those with money that are close to the real action. My checks are not big enough to be in that circle but enough to know some who are. Personally the biggest mistake I see if it does die is the stubbornness of Hart to let it get this far without letting the fan base know. We need to be unified one way or the other.
 
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volsfan30093 said:
ok so if no Gruden then where do we go from here, half the names I saw i am just not sure on. What's the Guide lines for hiring Jim Tressell he was a winning coach, what big names would fit the vols long term.
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The last I heard on this was that he still has a 5 year show cause, and if he was hired he cannot coach in one game for each year of the show cause.
 
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Dylecho said:
Which fits nicely into what I was saying. The principals are $$$ and JG, and the wrenches in the process are their agents (AD and Bob LaMonte). Each of whom believe that if allowed to work, they can tailor the deal to their own ideal vision of what it should be. They're both trying to beat each other at the game when JG and $$$ have already agreed in principle.
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Here is the thing. If Gruden really wanted to be here and the boosters really wanted him here, he would be here. They would each reel in the troublemaker on their side and tell them to get it done.
 
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I would really like to hear from DTO and cherry oak desk guy. Also SBV. It would be nice to get their take on this mess.
 
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tnvols72 said:
UT or Hart has not addressed the fan base,media or nobody and I believe if Hart is keeping Tn from hiring Gruden then you would think the Big Money boosters would step in and put a stop to Hart. I think Hart is a problem and he is wanting to be the man.What happens if the booster dont open their check books up for a Strong,Golden,Fedora then what does Hart do ?
Hart just needs to get the he11 out of Knoxville.Tn is getting ready to be set back into the dark ages.If they think it cant get much worse then they will find out.
This will end bad for the football program and if its not a big name hire then Neyland will be empty next fall.I dont see people just keep investing money is Dooley type coaches.I know I wont renew my tickets.I think the big money people need to step in and take this over.
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Hart addressed us through hubbs and VQ earlier this morning. IMO. Next time you see hart, he'll be at a presser for the new HC.
 
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Vol-in-Bham said:
If it comes down to Hart vs. Lamonte of course Lamont wins. He has the prize that the group Hart represents wants. They will tell him to make it happen.
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The one thing I forgot to add to this pi$$ing contest is how slighted Hart felt by being gone around. The money met with Gruden and got an agreement (according to Y4B, who I believe). Hart CAN'T have been happy to find out that people whose jobs do not depend on this hire thought that they could do his job for him.

Just a thought as to why Dave might be playing hardball. LaMonte has the prize, sure, but the AD is in full fah q mode at the moment and is willing to make the $$$ sweat for their guy. I don't know Hart from Adam, but I would be willing to bet he's willing to teach the $$$ a little lesson.
 
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MFL said:
One big problem. They cant tell an AD what to do when he is going rogue. He will get to pick his coach and if it fails he's fired. If he had accepted the boosters choice he would not have been fired if it failed. Dont forget State laws are working for Hart. This is not private business. I do think your theory is exactly what happen. I could not have said it better. I dont blame carter or the others as they were simply listening to folks they thought to be in the know. What I dont get is why Hart choose silence. It's obvious Gruden liked the publicity. I'm not convinced Gruden ever intended to come to the college level to coach. He suks in my eyes now. Along with ESPN.
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I don't know the power that Bill Haslam has directly over Hart but if he has any it seems that Hart would be a fool to go against the Haslam FAMILY. Dang it, all the little details of who has what type of power that none of can answer drives me nuts.
 
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Nobody knows crap all the report says is there sources say so. Something is extremely fishy here. Haslam hasnt said a word but he is the key to this.equation besides the man himself and hart. We need to here something from one these three guys in an official press conf. If gruden mania continues the university will have no choice. Could be major pr problem.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
I have heard quite a bit and its brightening up.
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Insunseri said:
I may be a little confused on who the og's are, but skeeter, oldvol, bcarter have said it's looking bad. I think bcarter's words were "it's abundantly apparent that it's over". I think yay4bray has said he no longer believes. I think even boro said it was time to "flame" him.
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Skeeter NEVER was in.... bcarter was in, then out, then back in again, then now out again (maybe with sources but true), yay4bray is still posting next week, Lex said late today he was still in and I added Oldvols last post on the subject

So what is your defense...Oh i forgot InSUNSERI ...you never had one
 
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RagingOrange said:
Backing you up, Gruden never said a word since mike and mike, it was his "lost in the translation" agent...
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Yep...regardless of intentions, smart and experienced people always leave windows open and reversals in every deal...always.
 
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