Recruiting Forum: Football Talk II

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Billy Antrim said:
It was RUTGERS. Their offense looked all-world in the first half.

On a more serious note, after reading the last ten pages of this thread, I'm sensing a divided fanbase if our new HC is anyone not named Gruden. That's JMO. Flame away.
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I think you see a divided message board, which is not the fanbase thankfully. I think there will be division on this message board until some big recruits respond well/commit to a new coach and/or we win a game we aren't supposed to.
 
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More from Carlos....

I know you can't name specific people, but is there any way you could explain, in general, where this rumor is coming from?
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People who are familiar with OU program....I dont know anything about OU at all......but I know this person has connections to OU program...just thought I would ask people to see if they may have heard about this.....I tend to not believe it and at this point but this person texted me because they know I am a Vol fan...and there could be a correlation...I wouldnt get excited about it yet... I have no way to confirm..
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SCvol333 said:
this wasnt in strong's first year - he lost to them in his 2nd - and it was w/bridgewater - he also lost to cincy (at team DD destroyed that year), nc state, Pitt, UNC, and marshall along with FIU

7-6, 7-6, 10-2 (likely to be 10-3)

let's compare - urban meyer takes over utah after losing season and goes 10-2 and 12-0

he also took over for a 2-9 bowling green squad and went 8-3 and 9-3

Strong is a 7-5, 8-4 coach - he is just not the answer
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No, compare Strong and Saban like we were doing.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Yes Staley was the D coordinator at Hutch. He is still recruiting there for us. Apparently in the War Room Hubbs said that he is selling the idea that they can come in and be the "fab five" to bring UT back to prominence. Apparently in a short time he has really, really impressed out there. EDIT - Also, I believe he has been in 5 or 6 states this week, including the Tidewater area to see Levenberry.
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That's what I thought. Glad to hear he is doing well.
 
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The Jon Gruden thread is imploding right now . So I have wanted Strong from the start. What is going on with that? Does he have an offer ? Have we interviewed ?

If not him who have we approached ?
 
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Holy sh!t. I'm just connecting the dots but Hart was confirmed by Larry to be in Oklahoma. Maybe he wasn't visiting with Gundy. Maybe it was Stoops....

EDIT - Not trying to stir the pot or spread rumors but what a coincidence.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
No, compare Strong and Saban like we were doing.
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you have been doing that - I haven't

plus you are doing very selective comparing - jmoore picks year 1 at bama instead of year 2, why is that since strong lost to FIU in year 2 - well b/c then we would see saban winning a natnl title and his argument would suck

you also selected year 1 at LSU - why, b/c in year 2 (same year for strong i brought up) he won the SEC - that wouldnt make your case so you conveniently left that out

EDIT...I also thought Meyer a better comparison b/c the talent level is closer than what Saban faced
 
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Orange_Fedora said:
Who do you think UT should hire out of Strong, Fedora, Fisher, Gundy, and Golden?
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Strong in a ny minute out of those guys, but I believe Fedora would have success at UT. Just too many positive about UT for any coach with talent to fail. MH wanted a bunch of better guy before he decided on his placeholder. My issue with Strong is his attachment a few guys on his staff. Adding JG and Pittman to his staff would be a must imo...needs to find a real OC. Gundy is a solid guy but he's no better than Chaney from a X and O standpoint...like SOS and Fisher I doubt he hands over the playcalling which is a bad thing for an HC.

LOL at anyone who wants Fisher and Golden. IF Hart hires either he won't be at UT long.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Anyone like the idea of Strong bringing Vance Bedford w/ him as his DC/DB's coach? His bio on the UL website seems really really good.
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Bedford is a solid coach. Muschamp offered him the DB job at UF before bringing in T Robinson. He's the one guy that Strong will/should keep with him at any stop.
 
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Saban at Michigan State: 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5, 6-6, 9-2

Miles at OSU: 4-7, 8-5, 9-4, 7-5

Spurrier at Duke: 5-6, 7-3-1, 8-4

Mack Brown at Tulane & N.C.: 1-10, 4-7, 6-6, 1-10, 1-10, 6-4-1, 7-4, 9-3, 10-3, 8-4, 7-5, 10-2, 10-1

Strong at Louisville: 7-6, 7-6, 10-2
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Holy sh!t. I'm just connecting the dots but Hart was confirmed by Larry to be in Oklahoma. Maybe he wasn't visiting with Gundy. Maybe it was Stoops....

EDIT - Not trying to stir the pot or spread rumors but what a coincidence.
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That's what I was thinking. Who knows? Hubbs never shot down that rumor like he has with Gruden, not to mention, 247 also got word that Hart may have been in Oklahoma. Very interesting.
 
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HialeahGator said:
Strong in a ny minute out of those guys, but I believe Fedora would have success at UT. Just too many positive about UT for any coach with talent to fail. MH wanted a bunch of better guy before he decided on his placeholder. My issue with Strong is his attachment a few guys on his staff. Adding JG and Pittman to his staff would be a must imo...needs to find a real OC. Gundy is a solid guy but he's no better than Chaney from a X and O standpoint...like SOS and Fisher I doubt he hands over the playcalling which is a bad thing for an HC.

LOL at anyone who wants Fisher and Golden. IF Hart hires either he won't be at UT long.
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I agree completely. If Strong comes, the OC hire will be huge. Just watching them some this year, I'm not really a huge fan of their offense. It looks like they are trying to run a pro-style offense out of the pistol and shotgun. JMO, but I'd prefer them to pick one style and go with.

I thought Holgorsen and Monken called plays at Oklahoma St? Does Gundy still do it? As a coach, I like him. I just question his offensive scheme and whether it will win championships in the SEC.

Agreed 100% on the last sentance. Fisher and Golden are not the answer.
 
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HialeahGator said:
Bedford is a solid coach. Muschamp offered him the DB job at UF before bringing in T Robinson. He's the one guy that Strong will/should keep with him at any stop.
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Was just about to ask you about your opinion on him.

IF Strong got the job I'd like for him to bring Bedford w/ him.

What's your opinion on their DL coach, Hurtt.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Holy sh!t. I'm just connecting the dots but Hart was confirmed by Larry to be in Oklahoma. Maybe he wasn't visiting with Gundy. Maybe it was Stoops....

EDIT - Not trying to stir the pot or spread rumors but what a coincidence.
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:detective:


Stoops has wanted out of Norman for the last 3 years. He would be at UF is Meyer didn't backdoor him on the plane ride to Gainesville. Not sure if the Okie fans care at this point most feel he's lost his fire. His wife has hated Norman since day one.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Holy sh!t. I'm just connecting the dots but Hart was confirmed by Larry to be in Oklahoma. Maybe he wasn't visiting with Gundy. Maybe it was Stoops....

EDIT - Not trying to stir the pot or spread rumors but what a coincidence.
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We can only hope and pray O&W. :crossfingers:
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Holy sh!t. I'm just connecting the dots but Hart was confirmed by Larry to be in Oklahoma. Maybe he wasn't visiting with Gundy. Maybe it was Stoops....

EDIT - Not trying to stir the pot or spread rumors but what a coincidence.
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He has a game in 24 hours. Highly doubt he was meeting with Hart when he could have just waited to do so Sunday in NYC.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Saban at Michigan State: 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5, 6-6, 9-2

Miles at OSU: 4-7, 8-5, 9-4, 7-5

Spurrier at Duke: 5-6, 7-3-1, 8-4

Mack Brown at Tulane & N.C.: 1-10, 4-7, 6-6, 1-10, 1-10, 6-4-1, 7-4, 9-3, 10-3, 8-4, 7-5, 10-2, 10-1

Strong at Louisville: 7-6, 7-6, 10-2
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the only comparable one you have imo is mack brown at tulane - he was in a similar spot - the rest were in spots where the program was down and they were in a good conference so it takes longer to build - and i would also argue that mack brown is a very overrated coach

EDIT... also 7-3-1 at duke in the ACC, 8-5 in the big 12 and 6-6 in the big 10 are much better than 7-6 (6-6 regular season) in a terrible big east (that is comparing the 2nd years again)
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Was just about to ask you about your opinion on him.

IF Strong got the job I'd like for him to bring Bedford w/ him.

What's your opinion on their DL coach, Hurtt.
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Hurtt=Trooper w/o the towel wave. But I like what he does on the recruiting trail..just enough grey for the NCAA not to hammer his azz.
 
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