Official Jon Gruden Thread XII

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yrock777 said:
Just now on VQ

Legitimate Gruden Info, w/ Sources Reply
For starters, because I know many of you will look at my history, look up the name bustedplaycom. I was a member for a little over three years, cancelled my membership, and have since come back (just a few months now). I've never once claimed to have any "inside information" or even a clue of what's going on within UT or any of its coaching searches. Having said that, I have a friend out in Los Angeles (who graduated from UT with me) that works for Landmark Sports Agency, and used to work at PSR, where Bob Lamonte is President and Founder. I've been nagging him for the last 5-7 days for any info, but he hasn't had any. Today he called me, and this is what he had to say:

UT has done everything on its end to try and make Gruden their next coach. He doesn't know the exact details, but he said (from what he's heard) that UT has reached out to Gruden and has offered him an 8 year, $58m deal.They offered him $4.2m for a staff, and he came back wanting more; they counted with $4.9m for a staff, and this number, according to him, is still a bit of an issue, and is yet to be resolved.

Gruden is very worried about NCAA rules, recruiting, and violations -- that sounds like a very little thing on the surface, but it's apparently one of the major things that's keeping him from pulling the trigger to coach college ball. In the NFL, all the guy has to do is worry about a draft (which is mostly up to the GM); in the NCAA, he has to worry about what types of spreads can be given for bagels at a breakfast event.

Bob Lamonte, according to my friend, is addicted to getting his clients power -- he said if anyone questions this, please Google Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, Mike Sherman, and our very own Jon Gruden.

Jon Gruden's wife is HUGE in this -- supposedly, and I quote, "she's much more of a driving force than you'd ever imagine in making a decision that decides the next 8 years of their life." I will tell you my friend was a bit of a drama queen at UT -- I lived w/ the guy, and he has a knack for dramatics -- but he said this deal wouldn't even be close without her.

There is an ownership at stake for this with the Cleveland Browns. I don't know the numbers, and I actually mocked the OP who put this out there, but it's time for me to apologize for that. I thought it was completely absurd, but from what he's told me, it's 100% legitimate. He suspects it's a very small number, but any ownership stake in an NFL team to coach a college team would certainly be a first.

On the cancellation: My friend has no inside scoop on that. I asked him to text me if he heard anything, but at the time we spoke (a little over two hours ago), he didn't have any information.

His overall thoughts: He, unlike myself, doesn't think the deal is dead in the water. He said what separates the two sides is a few million dollars (over the course of 8 years, not PER year) and a legitimate control issue over football operations (per him, Gruden wants ALL power when it comes to football decisions, as far as who's brought on, who's fired, etc., and there's a different side of opinions between the two parties). The money for Gruden is where he wants it, but there still seems to be a gap in the money he wants for assistants -- this is big to Gruden, being new to the college game, and he wants to make sure he has the best staff in place, from both a coordinating and recruiting standpoint.

That's what I know. You can call me a troll, much like I have everyone else. I didn't trust anyone because I have a friend in the industry who has very close connections, and he himself hadn't heard anything. I'm not claiming it's a done deal, not claiming there's any ink to dry, not saying it's dead, not saying it's close. Just telling you about a conversation I had with an old roommate.

If I hear anything else, I'll be sure to post.
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I want Gruden here just as much as many in the Vol fan base...
I still believe he will be here....

I understand his cautiousness about transitioning into the NCAA and recruiting....I also understand the power of a wife in family decisions.

The money concerns me. I do believe we can hire a lot of qualified coaches at this amount for a coach and Staff...many. You wave this amount in front of some and the will bite.....

I think Gruden is an ultimate selection but he is not the only one.....

This kind of money, combined with our facilities, a revived fan base and our recruiting budget will land a big fish if not Gruden.
 
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Achilles said:
I really do feel like "something" will happen Friday, just like Ainge said. Everyone hear says they think that Ainge is in "the know" They prob are meeting tonight and putting "another" offer on the table and flying back sometime tomorrow.

One way or another Gruden or no Gruden, I believe they will let us know "something" Friday and I believe that is what Ainge is getting at.
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I really dont think Ainge is "in the know". Ainge was one who was adimant about Gruden not comming to TN.

I think Ainge, like Swain, are entertaining to listen to and offer some interesting opinions but thats really it.

Im not completely sold on Rucker being "in the know" but his comments are interesting. I dont think Hyams is "in the know" at all - period.

I think Hubbs gets some nice pieces of info but thats really it.

Pre-Kiffin era, I think there were more sources for information. Today things are more closely guarded.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If he's stringing us along absolutely. Not as a empty threat and not as a comparison to Golden but just to let him know we may not have options as splashy as him but we had to get someone in place.
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If hart earned his position with negotiating skills like that, we are all in trouble.
 
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MWR said:
Not in our lifetimes anyway.






OV speaks like a man who has learned from experience. The difficult lessons stay with you longer



I think that about this time Saturday, everybody in VolNation and the Vol Nation will be a lot easier to get along with. And love one another. And have peace on earth, or at least at VN.



Hallllllll-Leeeee-Louuuuuu-Yerrrrrrr.
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OrangeInKy said:
Fedora over Fulmer said:
I was on the fire Fulmer team when he got fired.Im not promoting him back but before any of those 3 clowns gets hired here,I would rather have Fulmer.
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Sudden Impact said:
I want Gruden here just as much as many in the Vol fan base...
I still believe he will be here....

I understand his cautiousness about transitioning into the NCAA and recruiting....I also understand the power of a wife in family decisions.

The money concerns me. I do believe we can hire a lot of qualified coaches at this amount for a coach and Staff...many. You wave this amount in front of some and the will bite.....

I think Gruden is an ultimate selection but he is not the only one.....

This kind of money, combined with our facilities, a revived fan base and our recruiting budget will land a big fish if not Gruden.
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I agree! If not gruden it will be a big hire
 
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what a nice day to work 11 hours...we have to turn our cell phones in, but i was sneaky enough to post this afternoon and try my best to catch up.

So basically....Hyams got everyone in defcon 3 and a couple of other bad tweets were out there.

Now it looks like all OGs are still holding firm and some better info has leaked out this evening. (assuming it's reliable).

did a miss anything else? sorry for the hassle...i just really can't keep up when I have to work. :hi:
 
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Spartacavolus said:
If hart earned his position with negotiating skills like that, we are all in trouble.
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Hey Super Bowl winning coach that we have shown we are willing to do anything to get, if you don't sign soon I will hire this other coach who is begging to come with a 45% win percentage. Take that!
 
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VOLout8 said:
Hey Super Bowl winning coach that we have shown we are willing to do anything to get, if you don't sign soon I will hire this other coach who is begging to come with a 45% win percentage. Take that!
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Boy, the egg would be all over Gruden's face. Especially when he cashes that paycheck for working one night a week.
 
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Reynvol5 said:
what a nice day to work 11 hours...we have to turn our cell phones in, but i was sneaky enough to post this afternoon and try my best to catch up.

So basically....Hyams got everyone in defcon 3 and a couple of other bad tweets were out there.

Now it looks like all OGs are still holding firm and some better info has leaked out this evening. (assuming it's reliable).

did a miss anything else? sorry for the hassle...i just really can't keep up when I have to work. :hi:
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You missed the grumor about Gruden being with Hart at the Lady Vols game.
 
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Achilles said:
I really do feel like "something" will happen Friday, just like Ainge said. Everyone hear says they think that Ainge is in "the know" They prob are meeting tonight and putting "another" offer on the table and flying back sometime tomorrow.

One way or another Gruden or no Gruden, I believe they will let us know "something" Friday and I believe that is what Ainge is getting at.
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Lol. Ainge blasted me the other morning on air for sending him a tweet about knowing more than he lets on. He knows more than he lets on.
 
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