Official Jon Gruden Thread XI

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rkvdg said:
I would rather pull for a lost cause like we are now then that P.O.S. . If I wanted to be morally bankrupt I would be a bama fan.
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Good lord you act like he murdered kids or something. So much for forgiveness huh? He got caught up with some young ass and made a series of mistakes. He has no NCAA baggage. He got some booty behind his wife's back and wrecked a bike. Worse things have happened.

Doesn't matter, its not about #2 or #3 yet, and I do not believe it will be. Just conversation about backup plans.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
With all the denials its starting to sound like Hart is about to hire another "Dooley" ... still wonder why all the money is getting pumped back into the athletics dept. unless its to pay off all of Hamiltons mess.
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I've said all along...that the dramatic change in the funding is a win for UT fans. I think your point shouldn't be buried.
The change in funding is very significant.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
There could be several reasons for such statements.
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bcartervol98 said:
I believe denials like that about 10% if the time. Long long history proves that just means they haven't agreed yet.
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Lexvol said:
This is exactly why Hart kept Dooley for as long as he could. Before the announcement, I wouldn't be shocked to see or hear more denials from "potential candidates".
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An old tactic in negotiations is to say you aren't interested. And some go so far as to say they'll never do this or do that, or coach here, or coach there, etc.
 
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Count, did you see my post from last night w/ my email. I'll hook you up with land in Tenn to hunt on if you want...
 
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I don't think anyone is downbeat this morning. I feel as good as ever. Think maybe we are just getting tired of the wait. At least I am.
 
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I think desperate times require deperate measures = Petrino

Jon Gruden is no longer welcome in my home....Sorry on my TV screen
 
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Has anybody thought of the possibility that the reason we have Cheek (from UF) and Hart (from UA) is to end the trend of things slipping through UT's fingers and ending up with a losing mess?

Jmo, but it seems like the best was to break that trend would be getting people who have been in positions where that trend is the opposite.
 
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I think it may have been discussed but don't remember if there was an answer. If Graham or any other coach that may be staying knows Gruden is the coach and is telling that to recruits, is that legal?
 
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MWR said:
An old tactic in negotiations is to say you aren't interested. And some go so far as to say they'll never do this or do that, or coach here, or coach there, etc.
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That too...I agree 100%, but you avoid it as long as you keep your coach employed.
 
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Lexvol said:
I've said all along...that the dramatic change in the funding is a win for UT fans. I think your point shouldn't be buried.
The change in funding is very significant.
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I think the money is the key

If we were going after a mid-tier coach, we wouldnt be needing that kind of money

I'm hoping like hell that Hart has his crap together
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Good lord you act like he murdered kids or something. So much for forgiveness huh? He got caught up with some young ass and made a series of mistakes. He has no NCAA baggage. He got some booty behind his wife's back and wrecked a bike. Worse things have happened.

Doesn't matter, its not about #2 or #3 yet, and I do not believe it will be. Just conversation about backup plans.
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It's the way he leaves programs, not his personal life imo.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
I believe denials like that about 10% if the time. Long long history proves that just means they haven't agreed yet.
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If a statment doesn't come with a contract extension or upgrades in facilities they mean absolutly nothing IMO. Cut is only one that's done that
 
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VolMaster14 said:
He can ride all the Harleys and bang all the blondes he wants. I don't care, that's between him and his wife. My problem with the guy is the way he has treated his former teams. Louisville and Atlanta. I would always be nervous that at any moment he could do the same to us.
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$25m penalty through year 4 back to UT should fix that concern.
 
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CountVolcula said:
I think the money is the key

If we were going after a mid-tier coach, we wouldnt be needing that kind of money

I'm hoping like hell that Hart has his crap together
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I think Hart has his coach and that the BS from the AD is doing exactly what it is intended to do.....keep people in the dark.
 
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Everyone is getting restless. In literal terms, we've been coachless for barely a week. In reality, we've been coachless since the 3rd quarter against UF. It just needs to end
 
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