What type of QB does Gruden favor?

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Let's assume for a minute that we get Gruden; what kind of QB does he prefer? A total passer like Bray that can make any throw but doesn't have running ability, a throw first QB that will look and if nothing opens, take off, or a QB like Denard Robinson that is just a running back who just happens to be able the throw? I'd like to know because after Bray, we have 3 QBs lined up that are like option 2.
 
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I think he favors option 2. Watching his QB camp that he had he spoke highly of RG3 and Luck and obviously both of those guys are pass first then run. I believe they may run a little more than he would like but they both throw well too.
 
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Athletic.
Mobile.
Quick on his feet with good footwork. (3 step/3 hitch/5 step/5 with hitch/5 big/7 step)
Accurate. (Accuracy is more important than strength)
Smart. (Can spew out the verbiage efficiently. Understand coverages. Make good progressions. Able to identify Mike and fronts and get the right protections. Identify sight adjustments and hots)
A leader. (Doesn't make excuses and has poise)
Preferably right handed which is why WCO likes in cuts to the right and out routes to the left.
 
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id say when he gets settled & starts recruiting (hopefully right away) he will go after a spread option QB like TX Commit (tyrone swoops) who will be all ears when Gruden explains that TX will probally fire Brown after next season.
 
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bam15 said:
Athletic.
Mobile.
Quick on his feet with good footwork. (3 step/3 hitch/5 step/5 with hitch/5 big/7 step)
Accurate. (Accuracy is more important than strength)
Smart. (Can spew out the verbiage efficiently. Understand coverages. Make good progressions. Able to identify Mike and fronts and get the right protections. Identify sight adjustments and hots)
A leader. (Doesn't make excuses and has poise)
Preferably right handed which is why WCO likes in cuts to the right and out routes to the left.
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Sounds more like Worley than Bray.
 
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He likes a pocket passer more. He's a west coast guy, and he won't ditch his basic philosophies. He is going to love all of our qbs.
 
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JMO here....

1) Smarts- Needs to be able to read coverages, memorize play packages, and be able to know and recite possibly lengthy play calls. Has to be a true "field general" in putting everyone where they're supposed to be and make adjustments to the play call when needed.

2) Accuracy- None of the above matters much if you can't put the ball where it's supposed to go and get it there when it's supposed to be there.

3) Arm Strength- Not most important, but being able to make all of the throws opens up the playbook.

Most anything else that may be considered a shortcoming (speed, mobility, height, etc.) can be accounted for, but it would be preferable that the QB not be a statue in the pocket, and that's more based on the defenses you see every week in the SEC.
 
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He has been studying the Ducks offense lately... So not so sure about the straight pocket passer
 
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Regulator said:
JMO here....

1) Smarts- Needs to be able to read coverages, memorize play packages, and be able to know and recite possibly lengthy play calls. Has to be a true "field general" in putting everyone where they're supposed to be and make adjustments to the play call when needed.

2) Accuracy- None of the above matters much if you can't put the ball where it's supposed to go and get it there when it's supposed to be there.

3) Arm Strength- Not most important, but being able to make all of the throws opens up the playbook.

Most anything else that may be considered a shortcoming (speed, mobility, height, etc.) can be accounted for, but it would be preferable that the QB not be a statue in the pocket, and that's more based on the defenses you see every week in the SEC.
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I agree with you. I think Gruden is going to love Nathan Peterman.
 
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bam15 said:
Athletic.
Mobile.
Quick on his feet with good footwork. (3 step/3 hitch/5 step/5 with hitch/5 big/7 step)
Accurate. (Accuracy is more important than strength)
Smart. (Can spew out the verbiage efficiently. Understand coverages. Make good progressions. Able to identify Mike and fronts and get the right protections. Identify sight adjustments and hots)
A leader. (Doesn't make excuses and has poise)
Preferably right handed which is why WCO likes in cuts to the right and out routes to the left.
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The exact opposite of Tyler Bray
 
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I'm thinking Peterman fits a lot of these descriptions way more than Bray.
 
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chumleypm said:
The exact opposite of Tyler Bray
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I wouldn't write him off just yet. Erik Ainge wasn't good as a sophomore, and look what Cutcliffe did with him in one off-season between '05 and '06.

It's going to be on Bray if he's willing to put in the time and study. Who knows what's been expected of him to this point?
 
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On the other hand..If Gruden is as enamoured with Kellys offense as some people say. He may go for a run first zone option type now.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
On the other hand..If Gruden is as enamoured with Kellys offense as some people say. He may go for a run first zone option type now.
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I would be surprised to see Gruden go to an Oregon type o. I would lean toward believing that he was studying on how to defend against it, especially considering ut plays them next year.
 
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Burger said:
He likes a pocket passer more. He's a west coast guy, and he won't ditch his basic philosophies. He is going to love all of our qbs.
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This...he leans more to the pocket passer and has stated so.
soda23 said:
He has been studying the Ducks offense lately... So not so sure about the straight pocket passer
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I have seen comments like this pop up from time to time and I think it is being over "analyzed" and taken for more than what it is. Gruden and C. Kelly are actually good friends and it is well known that Gruden loves the x's and o's of the game and football is what he breaths. It more has to do with a guy like Gruden keeping up with the "times" and studying different type of attacks and schemes. There is a very good and lengthy article about Gruden that came out a couple years ago, can't remember from who but it's out there, and it speaks of Gruden always studying x's and o's and at the time of the article, he was brushing up on the triple option. Dude just loves the game and is a "football nerd"
 
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Regulator said:
I wouldn't write him off just yet. Erik Ainge wasn't good as a sophomore, and look what Cutcliffe did with him in one off-season between '05 and '06.

It's going to be on Bray if he's willing to put in the time and study. Who knows what's been expected of him to this point?
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Bray? what are you thinking.....Bray won't be back, I hope, He has a good arm and quick release but that's about it, his leadership is...what leadership? Bray is not part of the 2013 season....we are truly starting over
 
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This is an article from September that may shed some light on JG's philosophy regarding the college game.

It may be ‘old-man football’ to some, but Jon Gruden loves what Georgia does | UGA sports blog

It may be ‘old-man football’ to some, but Jon Gruden loves what Georgia does
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“I like what Georgia does offensively,” said Gruden, who was on the broadcast crew that called Georgia’s game against Michigan State in the Outback Bowl on Jan. 2. “I look forward to getting their tapes. . . . When you get Georgia, you get a lot of good stuff. You’re gonna see audibles, two-back play-action. You’re going to see an array of personnel groupings and formations and different ways of attacking. I like what they do at Georgia.”
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The spread offense – and variations of it — has been hot trend in college football the last several years. It gained in popularity after Urban Meyer brought it from Utah and used it to win national championships at Florida in 2006 and 2008.

Gruden doesn’t care for it.

“These teams are in a no-huddle offense and they’re trying to snap the ball before the defense is ready as many times as they can in a game,” he said. “They throw bubble screen after bubble screen and funnel screen after funnel screen and they run the read-option and that’s about it.”

Gruden said such offenses do little to prepare their players for the NFL. He said Georgia’s pro-style offense, by contrast, is why you see so many of the Bulldogs’ players getting drafted early and having success at the professional level.

“They’ve had the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft in Matthew Stafford,” Gruden said. “My brother [Jay Gruden] coaches A.J. Green and he was accomplished enough to come into the NFL and make the pro bowl as a rookie. Cordy Glenn was a first-round draft choice. Knowshon Moreno was a first-rounder.

“It’s because they run a pro-style, two-back offense, which is really unheard of in a lot of places these days. They’re committed to slamming the ball at you. They can get into a one-back set, they can use the no-huddle, they throw the ball down field...”
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TIFWIW
 
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soda23 said:
He has been studying the Ducks offense lately... So not so sure about the straight pocket passer
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It could be that he knows the Ducks will be his first real test next year after warmups against Austin Peay and Western Kentucky. If so it only stands to reason he would want to have a defensive game plan against the high powered Duck offense.
 
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