Official Jon Gruden Thread IX

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daj2576 said:
You might be right.

I just don't see that sort of implied authority surviving litigation, should the University not honor this supposed MOU (it would never reach that point). Typically with big organizations, be it businesses or government entities, authority is expressly delegated or otherwise their is no authority. Remember UT is basically a branch of the government. If boosters could operate with implied authority, why couldn't some local entity usurp the local government with the same sort of authority (being that the entity knew, but did not stop their actions)?

Don't get me wrong, I have bought into this whole idea but the one part of the story that has me calling BS is the idea that the boosters negotiated and signed an MOU with Gruden or his agent. I mean it is possible, but there is no way it would be binding after a breach. I guess that is a moot and academic point, but it happens to be the type of stuff I waste my time thinking about.
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These boosters are different. Plus, there is no doubt in my mind that Hart (as well as others in the AD) has seen the various drafts of the MOU and okayed the final draft before it was signed. All of these things would work against UT.

I agree it is a moot point though. MAybe a law professor will put it on a contracts exam?
 
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iterator said:
Feralhog@hogville: "don' shoot the messanger . . I'm hearing that the Gruden rumors are about to be put to bed."

don' shoot the messanger . .
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Mullins2010 said:
They are also saying Gruden is on campus.....
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smittysmitt3434 said:
Gruden's in Fayetteville and they may announce today. I know it was too good to be true. Bring on Kirby Smart!!!
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Brooks_Orpik said:
Kirby Mart will be a legend here
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Coastypop said:
Sounds to me like UT better honor our end of the MOU and give Gruden the Keys to the Hill :good!:
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Let me be clear, this is all speculation on my part. I am just trying to decipher what it could all mean and how it could all actually work.

On the other hand, to your point, we totally agree, with one caveat. I would have a hard time making the decision if I was choosing between Gruden or Stoops, personally. I say that simply for the fact that Stoops is a proven winner, and Gruden has an incredible upside (better than Stoops) but is still unproven on the NCAA level.

I haven't heard the Stoops rumors gaining much traction, but that is the one other coach (beyond Saban) that would make me, if I was the AD, pause and reconsider Gruden.
 
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daj2576 said:
happens to be the type of stuff I waste my time thinking about.
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That's what got my attention when they said they signed an MOU with only the money men. That's all fine and good but who has the authority to contractually obligate UT?

Who knows how these things get worked out? I certainly don't.
 
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EZE said:
These boosters are different. Plus, there is no doubt in my mind that Hart (as well as others in the AD) has seen the various drafts of the MOU and okayed the final draft before it was signed. All of these things would work against UT.

I agree it is a moot point though. MAybe a law professor will put it on a contracts exam?
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Glad I never have to take that class again... ;)
 
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I like Stoops a lot, but I will take Gruden all day long before any other candidate (even Saban if that was an option).
 
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EZE said:
I like Stoops a lot, but I will take Gruden all day long before any other candidate (even Saban if that was an option).
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Right now Saban is the gold standard, and I have no doubt that he could do at UT what he did at both Bama and LSU. I really like Gruden's upside, but compared to Saban it would be a gamble to hire Gruden if both were in play (and admittedly they aren't). Gruden might prove to be superior to Saban, but that would take 3 national championships before that conversation could be given real weight.
 
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EZE said:
I like Stoops a lot, but I will take Gruden all day long before any other candidate (even Saban if that was an option).
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This for me as well. I think Gruden is really a perfect fit here in pretty much every aspect.

Stoops is and would be a helluva coach, but Gruden has some orange in his veins, and that means a lot around here.
 
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I faked the crap out of my Alabama fan coworker...told him gruden signed at 2:00. Had him nervous. He's been giving me a lot of crap, so it'll be awesome when it ACTUALLY happens.

GBO!

#gruden
 
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Yeah. I thought that article was pretty interesting considering the author. He does deal with speculation but seldom puts anything out there that has no credibility at all.
 
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mrmax86 said:
I faked the crap out of my Alabama fan coworker...told him gruden signed at 2:00. Had him nervous. He's been giving me a lot of crap, so it'll be awesome when it ACTUALLY happens.

GBO!

#gruden
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He thought their monopoly on recruiting was about to get threatened I guess.
 
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Apparently if we open the bank we can get him... which is almost impossible for me to believe. But talk about a return on investment... Hire 'em and I'll beat all of you to the season ticket office!
 
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EZE said:
Me too. Although I booked it.
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I have never heard that term. I presume you mean "aced" it or some other similar colloquialism? If so, good for you, contracts is sort of the "wash out" course at most law schools.

:good!:

I hope you understand, that is a legitimate compliment, not underhanded or back handed. Contracts is legit. I made the highest B possible, so I took it and ran. lol
 
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daj2576 said:
Right now Saban is the gold standard, and I have no doubt that he could do at UT what he did at both Bama and LSU. I really like Gruden's upside, but compared to Saban it would be a gamble to hire Gruden if both were in play (and admittedly they aren't). Gruden might prove to be superior to Saban, but that would take 3 national championships before that conversation could be given real weight.
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I just think Gruden fits UT to a "T" and will do well on all fronts. Most importantly he is somewhat one of us, and he will unite and excite a fan base that needs something to get excited about.

Saban wins, but I don't know if even he could have the immediate impact that Gruden can. Let's hope we get to see the Gruden side of it.
 
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