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Ok, so the BOT was supposed to meet @ 1 this afternoon to discuss important issues regarding the athletic department. Anyone have any updates on how that went? I'm very anxious to find out whether to get my hopes up for the future of the program, or pack it in until we get an administration that cares about winning.
 
Ok, so the BOT was supposed to meet @ 1 this afternoon to discuss important issues regarding the athletic department. Anyone have any updates on how that went? I'm very anxious to find out whether to get my hopes up for the future of the program, or pack it in until we get an administration that cares about winning.

Just a change in fundraising
 
Good news IMO.

This is the time of the year when more and more names begin to pop up as senior film goes out and one name we're also hearing that's generating some interest from the Vols is athlete Drake Martinez out of California. Another California prospect has been back on the Vols' radar recently, safety Tahaan Goodman. With Kameron Miles continuing to explore his offers, most prominently a recent Texas A&M offer, the Vols seem to have gotten back into it with Goodman.
-VQ
 
Dooley said Wednesday that Sunseri will still be calling plays, so exactly how it's going to work is a bit unknown. What's safe to say is that Conklin has been in charge of the defense in terms of the defending the passing game when we get to watch practice and he is at least the co-defensive coordinator. It wouldn't be surprising to see Conklin, who's been in the press box all season, and Sunseri in the same spot on Saturday, with Conklin having greater input and someone else signaling in plays and handling matters on the sideline. Graduate assistant Brandon Staley, who has been in the box and coordinated defenses at the JuCo level, could be a candidate to swap places with Sunseri on game day.

The concept of change to the defensive power structure and communication flow chart is one that Sunseri has handled with class publicly but not one that he was pleased with at all on Sunday when it was presented to him. Frankly, we're told Sunseri's reaction left some wondering if he would accept the changes and continue his tenure.

So Saturday it is thought that Conklin and Sunseri will both be in the coaches' box calling defenses. Dooley has not gotten into the details of what the plan is, but we expect both to be upstairs. What we can say is that Dooley hasn't taken his eyes off his defense this week. He's been in defensive meetings all week and hasn't left the defensive side of the practice field all week long.

The hope is to try and master a couple of concepts to go play sound defense after not handling anything a week ago, leading to frustration and to some defensive players to implore Sunseri to tell them what to do on the sideline. The vibe has definitely been that Dooley's presence --- and this is key --- and a commitment to greater communication and input from all sources has led to better practices, energy and a belief this defense could play with improved confidence and effectiveness this week.
-VQ
 
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That's it? No vote on the autonomy of the AD from the university?

That was actually never an option at this stage. They took a baby step in the right direction by allowing the AD to have more control over it's fundraising. Here's the quote from Hubbs about todays meeting.

The ammenduem for the Utfi passed. So fundraising on the athletics side is set by Dave Hart and the athletic department manages their fund raising. But all that fund raising is overseen by the university side as it has been for the last 18 months. It's only about fundraising.
 
So Sunseri got a little pissy and just about walked out and quit..honesty I can't say I'd be too upset about that.
 
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He can get upset but he ain't quitting. That is unless he's a total moron and wants to forfeit all of his remaining contract. LOL.
 

I've been seeing this all year from Sunseri. That dude needs to swallow his freaking pride for once and realize that he is NOT doing a good job. For him to react negatively to this change is sad, IMO. I wouldn't be happy, but I hope he realizes that he needs to make this change to potentially help the team succeed. What he's doing is NOT working.
 
BOT Meeting

Sorry I confused everyone earlier. I was trying to post from the meeting and obviously I screwed that whole deal up. Not any real news from the meeting today. The University President is getting a raise, but there was no real news otherwise.

On the original agenda, there was to be a performance and retention plan for executive officers, but that was deferred and not in this meeting. I was told they were not ready to discuss it, but no one could tell me why.

They did approved the UTFI amendment. So what does that mean. In talking to people today it only affects fundraising and it means they will continue to do it under the current structure that was approved a year and a half ago. What it means is that athletic fundraising goes under the UTFI meaning the director of athletic development (now Chris Fuller) reports to head of the UTFI who works for the University side and not the athletic side. But that doesn't means the University side determines what is spent on athletics or what it's spent for. Athletics director Dave Hart dictates how money raised for athletics is used. We know his plan is to invest in the student athletes and not as much for the fans.

Now as for all the other chatter regarding Cheek, the academics view of athletics, etc. It was not discussed today in the big board meeting but in talking to some who were in committee meetings earlier today. It was discussed and I had a couple of members tell me that Cheek is gaining a much better understanding of athletics (remember he's never been involved in athletics before) and these representatives believe that some compromises will be made to allow everyone to reach their goals. As one person told me, Chancellor Cheek has a much better understanding of athletics and it's importance to the University than he had a year ago.

For Cheek and the University the goal is to be a top-25 research institution and for athletics it's to make sure they are on a level playing field in the SEC.


This has to make more sense then what I posted earlier. My goodness that was a train wreck.
-Hubbs
 
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If the defense balls on Saturday, Dooley may have proved to have nine lives. It would be a huge selling point to save his job

I'll give you credit, Nick, you're one of the most optimistic people I've ever had the privilege of meeting. And that's not a slight. Wish I was like you.
 
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If the defense balls on Saturday, Dooley may have proved to have nine lives. It would be a huge selling point to save his job

I'm not sure what balling out means for this defense. Holding Missouri under 35 points and 450 yards, perhaps.

Im actually holding out hope we win and win fairly handily. I'm an optimist. Only three more games left and I want to go out strong.
 
I'll give you credit, Nick, you're one of the most optimistic people I've ever had the privilege of meeting. And that's not a slight. Wish I was like you.

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Not sure I am being realistic, but there is a chance Dooley can coach with a decent defense. Evidence is quite underwhelming, but I am excited to see these last three games and if the defense improves at all. It the admin issues are as bad as reported, we should hope for Dooley to stay in the saddle. Few will agree... and I am not even sure I agree with myself, LOL.
 
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Not sure I am being realistic, but there is a chance Dooley can coach with a decent defense. Evidence is quite underwhelming, but I am excited to see these last three games and if the defense improves at all. It the admin issues are as bad as reported, we should hope for Dooley to stay in the saddle. Few will agree... and I am not even sure I agree with myself, LOL.

I feel the same way. If only we had a good DC, we might be talking about a BCS bowl bid. Shoulda coulda woulda I guess.
 
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Not sure I am being realistic, but there is a chance Dooley can coach with a decent defense. Evidence is quite underwhelming, but I am excited to see these last three games and if the defense improves at all. It the admin issues are as bad as reported, we should hope for Dooley to stay in the saddle. Few will agree... and I am not even sure I agree with myself, LOL.

I think if he make the defense better then maybe that proves he can coach? Idk what to think anymore myself either lol
 
EJ Gaines, Missouri's top corner reportedly rolled an ankle and may not play tomorrow-at least that is what the Missouri Tiger Board is saying.

That is huge. He is Mizzou's best corner and a good one at that.
 
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Not sure I am being realistic, but there is a chance Dooley can coach with a decent defense. Evidence is quite underwhelming, but I am excited to see these last three games and if the defense improves at all. It the admin issues are as bad as reported, we should hope for Dooley to stay in the saddle. Few will agree... and I am not even sure I agree with myself, LOL.

If the defense all of a sudden improves dramatically, then DD should be let go because it took him until week 11 to make the move to the defensive side of the ball to help out. :) Honestly, I don't know what would happen if this defense started to play better (except that we would probably win out and win the bowl game). So many of us wanted DD to succeed and continue to be thankful for him coming to our university to take over a complete mess from past regimes, but the fact of the matter is we still didn't win any games against the top tier teams in the SEC. I still believe that Hart has made his decision already, and DD will "resign" after Kentucky. DD is coaching now for a future position to try to show other schools that he can get it done. If our defense turns it around some, then he will have a good argument and something to sell to other programs.
 
If the defense all of a sudden improves dramatically, then DD should be let go because it took him until week 11 to make the move to the defensive side of the ball to help out. :) Honestly, I don't know what would happen if this defense started to play better (except that we would probably win out and win the bowl game). So many of us wanted DD to succeed and continue to be thankful for him coming to our university to take over a complete mess from past regimes, but the fact of the matter is we still didn't win any games against the top tier teams in the SEC. I still believe that Hart has made his decision already, and DD will "resign" after Kentucky. DD is coaching now for a future position to try to show other schools that he can get it done. If our defense turns it around some, then he will have a good argument and something to sell to other programs.

The season is a huge disappointment. 4 more games to play, and I intend to enjoy every one. Hart can make his decision after the season, and I'll roll with it. But for now, I want Dooley to coach to the best of his ability weekly, and bring home victories. Off season is too dang long
 
The season is a huge disappointment. 4 more games to play, and I intend to enjoy every one. Hart can make his decision after the season, and I'll roll with it. But for now, I want Dooley to coach to the best of his ability weekly, and bring home victories. Off season is too dang long

Yeah, I know. What stinks is that we were all so excited from spring ball until August, and then this all happens. Can you imagine if we don't make a coaching change? I already told my bro-in-law that I just don't see myself getting excited again with DD as the HC, at least not until he proves he can win a big game. JMO. I hope we have 4 more games to play...have to win 2 out of 3 to make a bowl. I really want to win out..it would give us a lot of momentum going into the offseason, even with a coaching change...and the right big hire, would create a TON of momentum as well as an united fanbase.
 
Yeah, I know. What stinks is that we were all so excited from spring ball until August, and then this all happens. Can you imagine if we don't make a coaching change? I already told my bro-in-law that I just don't see myself getting excited again with DD as the HC, at least not until he proves he can win a big game. JMO. I hope we have 4 more games to play...have to win 2 out of 3 to make a bowl. I really want to win out..it would give us a lot of momentum going into the offseason, even with a coaching change...and the right big hire, would create a TON of momentum as well as an united fanbase.

I give Dooley a fair shake. When we lose a game we should win, or make dumb mistakes, I will definitely criticize, and have. But honestly, we built this hype machine that went out of control, and amplified the problems this year. A huge portion of the fan base through in the towel after the Florida game. For the last month, every thread talks about gruden. It's just not right.

IMO, the only defense Dooley can muster, is against Sal and anyone can see the validity in that. Did he wait to long to make a change, etc.? I think so, but Hart was a huge part of the hire and maybe he wouldn't let Dooley step in. We can never judge the unknown, but people on this board LOVE to speculate and make assumptions
 
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