Official Jon Gruden Thread IV

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Orange_Crush said:
Spoken like someone who knows little about church.



Except for the fact that he compared the church to scared children in bed and totally misrepresented its purpose.



Yes. You did. But also true is the fact that there are no worries.

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I pointed out that that was not the purpose of church in my responses. I was alluding more to the point I thought he was trying to make, while disagreeing with his portrayal of church. His perception was that some people go for encouragement and hope, and some do. That is not the primary function of course and a true believer will go the the Father for that but a nwer person in the faith may not understand the purpose of church. I didnt read too much into his comment really
 
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BearBryant said:
Doesn't matter.

You Gruden lovers have no guarantee that this guy is a sure fire winner at Tennessee.

His record doesn't prove he is one of the best.

Again 100-85 career record, 1 super bowl, Take away the Super Bowl year and he is 85-81.
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Decent troll effort. C+
 
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Actually who ever posted that about the Jefferson Co. land is correct just looked it up. You can too, just use the link I posted...just can't check Knox Co. for some reason. (WE KNOW WHY)
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Not sure. if you'll see this since I'm on ignore. I can understand that if you don't like reading stuff that you disagree with.

Anyway, here's what I was pointing out:

The purpose of the church: to equip and mature believers to ministry and good works. To grow them so that they are not like immature, scared little kids. Part of this is the comfort of knowing that we already have Christ, as opposed to hiding in bed waiting for Him.

The purpose of the church is to be strong, courageous "soldiers", not scared little kids sucking our thumbs in bed.


That's why Jesus, himself, established the church. Note: Not to be a bunch of scared kids needing Sunday pacifiers.

(Note about above... Gates are a defensive measure. The church is supposed to be mobilized and active-- not scared and sucking its thumbs, just pining away and hoping Jesus shows up.)

Look... I wasn't trying to be a jerk. But with that statement, I felt the desire to weigh in and call it wrong.

Blessings to you...

PS: Please feel welcome to attend our church. You will receive much love, grace and fellowship. But you will also receive unfiltered teaching from the Word of God, and would most likely come away with a better understanding of the purpose of the church-- while being encouraged to live it out.

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Orange...I think we are butting heads while trying to say the same thing. Ive said before, message boards do not convey tone or intent in conversation. I'm sorry if you felt like my post was inflammatory but it was not posed as an insult, it is a statement of how I feel toward God, as he is a comforter and friend in time of need and concern, as he should be. I worry about any christian who does not see him this way...ursurping God role is the path Lucifer took.

All the above is true. But what is also true is that the quote in ephesians about coming under the headship of Christ is the base for being like little children in faith, we are to be strong and put on the whole armor of God, but this does not take away from the submissiveness and place of the children of God in faith. If we are too strong then we lose the need for God altogether...even a warrior has a general and turns to him when times are confusing.

I'm not the best at all this "talk"...living it is what we are actually supposed to be doing. While I take absolute strength and courage in my role, I also know that I am nothing without the comfort and support of God, and the peace that surpasses all understanding in bad times.

For me the purpose of the church is to receive manna from heaven, join in fellowship licks of fire together as in the day of Pentecost, and to realize our place, and that is as a SERVANT of God, following his WILL, not trying to infer his will or take charge of our roles without his consult.

The tension came from the initial comment about knowing nothing about church. Do not suppose such things sir, especially when trying to be a representative of Christ. This is what turns people off...

I do not expect us or anyone to see eye to eye about religion and individual assessments, that's the beauty of free will and spiritual revelation, to each his own my friend.

Wishing you and yours the best.

We good?

Thanks!

Allright Volnation, back on topic eh? If we had PM we could do this there.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
If we get Gruden, what if any effect do you think he could have on swaying Bray/Hunter/Patterson to stay at UT and not go to the NFL?

If they do go to the NFL, who would be next in line for Gruden to work with at those positions?
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Bray and Hunter will be back. Patterson 70% chance.
 
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With his three pieces of propery he owns a total of 23.66 acres in Jefferson county and only one has any structure built on it. The 2.16 acre tract has a 1,022 sqft structure on it and I am pretty sure that is not what they live in...
 
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coffeevol said:
Tennessee Property Data Home Page OK here it goes time for a conspiracy. Try to click on Knox County Info, it is missing from the list also click on the county itself. Info isn't there. So who has the power to take the info of the tax assessment page? The governor thats who. Who is that? One of UTK's biggest boosters....shizzle just got realizzle.
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did you scroll down? each metro area has their own website...
 
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coffeevol said:
Tennessee Property Data Home Page OK here it goes time for a conspiracy. Try to click on Knox County Info, it is missing from the list also click on the county itself. Info isn't there. So who has the power to take the info of the tax assessment page? The governor thats who. Who is that? One of UTK's biggest boosters....shizzle just got realizzle.
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If he purchased a home last week, you won't see it for about 2-3 more weeks. There is nothing fast about Knox County processing
 
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Volgrad98 said:
Quick, someone hack the Knox County real estate database for Gruden's name. Then check all the banks and loan offices for anything that has recently gone into escrow.
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There was talk of Cindy Gruden "liking" a real estate agency in Knoxville on Facebook.......not sayin', just sayin'.
 
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FWIW, from LWS about an hour ago:

Can you or any other of the "people in the know" give us an update on the Dools/Gruden situation?
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don't trust anyone who says they know..

I think assessments from both sides of Gruden situation are in progress. outcome of that is likley to dictate dooleys situation.

I wouldn't be surprised at something happening within days or it could go into the next week or two...

My personal opinion is that coach dooley is not likely to be here next season but I also understand that circumstances can change but don't think they have at this juncture..
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I pointed out that that was not the purpose of church in my responses. I was alluding more to the point I thought he was trying to make, while disagreeing with his portrayal of church. His perception was that some people go for encouragement and hope, and some do. That is not the primary function of course and a true believer will go the the Father for that but a nwer person in the faith may not understand the purpose of church. I didnt read too much into his comment really
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This got bigger than I intended. Wasn't judging you or trying to start arguments with him. Just wanted to respond with a fuller understanding based on what the Bible actually says on the matter, and what Jesus' actual definition was. :)

:hi:
 
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