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ST has actually done a fantastic job this year. Not mentioned much with Coach Pittman and Graham doing wonders at their spots, but Coach Coiner has quietly done a great job with all phases of our ST
 
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is that what its come down to? being ecstatic with our punt returns because two years ago we couldnt field punts.

thats pretty much par for the course for Tennessee Football. lowered expectations because of recent missteps.

Go Big Orange, lets do just a little bit better than our previous failures!
 
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I4Jay said:
is that what its come down to? being ecstatic with our punt returns because two years ago we couldnt field punts.

thats pretty much par for the course for Tennessee Football. lowered expectations because of recent missteps.

Go Big Orange, lets do just a little bit better than our previous failures!
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This couldn't be any more spot on. I'm sick of the attitude that we're okay. Let's not rock the boat. I guess I'm spoiled with all my Neyland/UT memories from the 1992-2006.
 
#1,282
#1,282
I4Jay said:
is that what its come down to? being ecstatic with our punt returns because two years ago we couldnt field punts.

thats pretty much par for the course for Tennessee Football. lowered expectations because of recent missteps.

Go Big Orange, lets do just a little bit better than our previous failures!
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lol :hi:
 
#1,283
#1,283
I4Jay said:
truth.
Bruce Allen came in and the two DESTROYED the Bucs Roster
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yep :cray:

it was all downhill after the superbowl and if you try to say that wasnt dungy's team you are crazy AF

gruden brought in brad johnson lol but the defense was the best in the league for yrs before he got there
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
yep :cray:

it was all downhill after the superbowl and if you try to say that wasnt dungy's team you are crazy AF

gruden brought in brad johnson lol but the defense was the best in the league for yrs before he got there
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Safe bet Dungy wouldn't have won the SB.
 
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I4Jay said:
is that what its come down to? being ecstatic with our punt returns because two years ago we couldnt field punts.

thats pretty much par for the course for Tennessee Football. lowered expectations because of recent missteps.

Go Big Orange, lets do just a little bit better than our previous failures!
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It has more to do with stability and progress. Some of us fans are tired of the turnover and instability and not willing to keep supporting that. The O line has been bashed the last couple of yrs and now it's doing really well. When every facit of the program needed repair at one pt it's good to see clear improvement in important spots. Then the coaches can move the focus given to that repaired area to others.

Agree or disagree with giving cdd time to see it through dont sit here and bash fans that are willing to see it through. Cause it can come around just as easily.
 
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chavisut said:
Safe bet Dungy wouldn't have won the SB.
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Dungy won one Super Bowl with Peyton Manning. This isn't saying he's not a good coach because he is. But that's like saying the 49ers went to the NFC Championship with Singletary's team. Dungy took all day to win a Super Bowl getting beat by Belichick year after year. And he hand built that same defense that was getting lit up year after year. What's the argument now for the Gruden killed Tampa crowd? Hell you won't win another Super Bowl down there period. It is what it is.....
 
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Oskie Volum said:
It has more to do with stability and progress. Some of us fans are tired of the turnover and instability and not willing to keep supporting that. The O line has been bashed the last couple of yrs and now it's doing really well. When every facit of the program needed repair at one pt it's good to see clear improvement in important spots. Then the coaches can move the focus given to that repaired area to others.

Agree or disagree with giving cdd time to see it through dont sit here and bash fans that are willing to see it through. Cause it can come around just as easily.
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What are you guys seeing through to is the question? The team looks worse against top competition after three years than it did with less talent. We are regressing except for the OL, RBs, and DBs. That's a major red flag in my book.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
What are you guys seeing through to is the question? The team looks worse against top competition after three years than it did with less talent. We are regressing except for the OL, RBs, and DBs. That's a major red flag in my book.
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Could this have been said last yr??

I'm a firm believer that a good rebuild will have its major regression period. IMHO it shows that the negatives that caused the issues are getting purged. Then the scab will finally come off and the fresh new skin will be better. The take a step back to take 2 forward mindset.

We agree to disagree on all this, but some of us look at things differently. Some of us are more patient and want the foundation built solid so that we don't have to go through all this again in a few yrs. Others want turnover now which has a higher probability that we are stuck in this for many more yrs and maybe with no end in site.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
I have to admit, this is a first for me.

I will NEVER root against my team but I'm afraid of any scenario that leads to DD & co. coming back next year. Baring us absolutely demolishing SC tomorrow; we needed to show *consistent* improvement against the best competition on our schedule and, while there were glimpses, it just wasn't consistent enough and FAR too often we looked out-coached more so than "out-talented."

SN: I heard Jimmy Hyams on 104.5 this AM say that he didn't think the job was any more attractive now than it was 3 years ago when DD took over.

Is he f'ing kidding?!? 3 years ago we had students burning effigies of Kiffin in the streets, a roster that would make swiss cheese look like a brick wall, and barely enough talent to compete with UAB, Kentucky, & Vanderbilt.

Granted, our W-L record over the past 3 years is pathetic but you can't convince me that a GOOD HC couldn't come in here and have this team AT THE VERY LEAST competing with the SEC elite next year.

If the atmosphere before the Florida game doesn't showcase that this is a DESTINATION job, then I don't know what does....we just haven't won in 5 years and our image has been tarnished by a malaized and nearly-apathetic Fulmer, a HC who was all flash and no substance, and another HC who--under normal circumstances--would have hardly been considered for the position....with the right HC (JG, PLEASE!!!) UT can once again be a powerhouse of college football.

...Jimmy Hyams can suck it.
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And now we know the NCAA won't impose sanctions for cockgate. That was one thing coaches were waiting for
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
doug martin and josh freeman gettin us back on track :pepper:

gruden would of brought in another 35 yr old QB lol
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To win a Super Bowl? I have been a Buc fan since I was very young. They have exactly 1 SB. Get mad at Gruden all you want. He wasn't the only reason that team dropped off. The roster was aging when he got there and they have up a ton of draft picks to get him. Soon after he arrived the ownership tightened the payroll.
 
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Crookruss said:
To win a Super Bowl? I have been a Buc fan since I was very young. They have exactly 1 SB. Get mad at Gruden all you want. He wasn't the only reason that team dropped off. The roster was aging when he got there and they have up a ton of draft picks to get him. Soon after he arrived the ownership tightened the payroll.
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i agree the old man QB's got old tho when you knew you had no future with em

caddy gettin hurt and turning out to be a bust wasnt good for gruden either he was gonna be a HUGE part of the offense
 
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Crookruss said:
The roster was aging when he got there and they have up a ton of draft picks to get him. Soon after he arrived the ownership tightened the payroll.
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With the exception of 1 or 2 teams, seems like the natural cycle for most of the NFL's competitive teams.

Gradually build a base and ramp up payroll, pick up some strong draft picks and FAs, compete at a high level for a few seasons, roster ages, payroll shrinks slightly, gradual decline until it bottoms and crawls upwards.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Could this have been said last yr??

I'm a firm believer that a good rebuild will have its major regression period. IMHO it shows that the negatives that caused the issues are getting purged. Then the scab will finally come off and the fresh new skin will be better. The take a step back to take 2 forward mindset.

We agree to disagree on all this, but some of us look at things differently. Some of us are more patient and want the foundation built solid so that we don't have to go through all this again in a few yrs. Others want turnover now which has a higher probability that we are stuck in this for many more yrs and maybe with no end in site.
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The offense isn't in a rebuilding stage and should've never regressed. The system is in and the QB is in his 3rd year as is Hunter. CP is a huge playmaker(top 2 in the country IMO) then add Neal and an NFL OL in. There are no excuses. All that Dooley scab BS has gotten to you. Lol He can win out and I still want him gone. Dude will never beat Saban and that's unacceptable in my book.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I stated this in the Corn Elder thread. #19 shouldn't be on scholarship and was a miss waiting to happen
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I mean that's a ridiculous claim, he actually is on the field and makes plays in the return game. Thats better than a lot of former recruits. DY also has had some really good runs. He had a great game against MSU, he stepped up and contributed when the top 2rbs went down. If you want to talk someone who shouldn't be on scholly, it is Tom Smith. The kid hasn't seen the field this year. Out of all of the college football teams with a RB need who he could help contribute and he does nothing.
 
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