Does a .500 winning percentage in NFL mean anything?

I think we can all agree Dooley is not the right fit for TN, but we'll have a junior and senior laden team next year, and to go through another defensive coordinator, for some players it will be their 3rd one in 3 years, and another offensive coordinator, with a senior QB and a senior offensive line. We can expect our offense to have problems with Gruden's complex offense

Gruden has spent time coaching his son's high school football team. Gonna guess he'd figure a way to scale what he wants to do to college kids.
 
Maybe we'll get lucky and Gruden can win a NC ring with Dooley's players like everyone says he did with Dungy's players.

:rolleyes:
 
FFS. I'll do the work for you. Maybe then, you'll see what I'm getting at, if you can stop drooling about that face-making walking talking sack of elephant fecal matter called Jon Gruden. These are all facts, so go right ahead and deny them.....oh, and pay close attention to what I have bolded. That's your boy Gru-bage at work.

2002: Gruden hired as HC.
-record of 12-4 with a SB ring.
-346/196 points for/against (+150 differential)
-Offensive ranks:
-18th in points scored
-24th in yards gained
-Defensive ranks:
-1st in points allowed
-1st in yards allowed

2003:
-record of 7-9, no playoff appearance, 3rd in NFC South
-301/264 point differential (+37)
-Offensive rankings:
-18th in points scored
-10th in yards gained
-Defensive rankings:
-4th in points allowed
-5th in yards allowed

2004:
-record of 5-11, no playoff appearance, last in NFC South
-301/304 point differential (-3)
-Offensive rankings:
-23rd in points scored
-22nd in yards gained
-Defensive rankings
-9th in points allowed
-5th in yards allowed

2005:
-11-5 record, 1st in NFC South, lost to WAS in NFC WC game.
-300/274 point differential (+26)
-Offensive rankings
-20th in points scored
-23rd in yards gained
-Defensive Rankings:
-8th in points allowed
-1st in yards allowed

2006:
-4-12 record, no playoff appearance, last in the NFC South.
-211/353 point differential (-142)
-Offensive rankings:
-31st in points scored
-29th in yards gained
-Defensive rankings:
-21st in points allowed
-17th in yards allowed

2007:
-9-7 record, 1st in NFC South, lost to NYG in NFC WC game.
-334/270 point differential (+64)
-Offensive rankings:
-18th in points scored
-18th in yards gained
-Defensive rankings:
-3rd in points allowed
-2nd in yards allowed

2008:
-9-7 record, 3rd in the NFC South, no playoff appearance.
-361/323 point differential (+38)
-Offensive rankings:
-19th in points scored
-14th in yards gained
-Defensive rankings
-10th in points allowed
-9th in yards allowed

.......and then (thank GOD), he was gone. Now, tell me, please........is this REALLY what you want in a head coach at the University of Tennessee?? A supposed, self-proclaimed "offensive genius" who hangs out in the middle of the field in statistics??

I hear someone in the back of the class yelling "what was Gruden's average finish"?? 21st in points scored, 20th in yards gained out of 32 teams. Not even middle of the road, really. For argument's sake, Monte Kiffin's average finish?? 8th in points allowed, 6th in yards allowed. Your "savior" got bailed out by Monte Kiffin, it's plain and simple. The one year that the wheels fell off the defense (2006), and they WEREN'T in the top-10.....coincidentally, that was the year that Gruden's offense defecated the proverbial bed.

Wait, wait, wait....we have another question...."wasn't that the year all Gruden's best players got injured, and he had to play his backups??" Why, yes, it was. As a matter of face, Bruce Gradkowski and 84-year old Joey Galloway were the leaders of the offense that year. HOWEVER, we're not going to take that into consideration......can't give Gru-bage credit for something that Dooley gets castigated for, now can we??

Yes, little Johnny, what's your question?? "what about Gru-bage's time in Oakland?? Does that not count??" No, Johnny, it doesn't. Most young men that are being recruited to play for the University of Tennessee right now are 17 and 18 years old, there are some 16 year olds in the mix, so I'll throw them in, too. FACT: Jon Gruden's last season with the Oakland Raiders was 2001, which with my Georgia education means that if Gru-bage was to take over for the 2013 season, it would have been 12 years since he last coached at OAK. 18-12=6, Johnny. At 6 years old, you're not worried about what a coach in the NFL is doing, his win/loss record, or how many points his offense scored.......you're more worried about who has cooties in the sandbox, and whether your Mom packed your favorite PB&J sandwich for snack time in kindergarten. We won't be taking that into account, Johnny, but thank you for your question.

Another question. Yes, Suzy, what is it?? "Isn't Jon Gruden on Monday Night Football?? He sounds so smart on there about football!!! People watch him all the time!!" It's called a teleprompter and a team of researchers, Suzy. Everyone on television does it, whether they admit to it or not. Gruden has one, so does everyone else.

Ladies and gentlemen, the ball's in your court. I've MORE than proven MY point......let's see what YOU can do other than "it's Jon Gruden, and he has a SERPER BERHL RIIIIIIING, ERMAGHERD!!!!!".
 
Heh. It's stunning how bad some of you are at math.

Of course the average winning percentage in the NFL is .500. Mathematically, it has to be.

To simplify - think about one game. After the game, one coach is 1-0, the other is 0-1. Their combined record is 1-1, and their average winning percentage is .500. After two games, the combined record is 2-2, after 10,000,000 games, it's 10,000,000-10,000,000. But the average winning percentage is and always will be .500.

But thanks for continuing to buy lottery tickets.

Wow. Will you tutor me? That's some serious logic right there.

What everyone meant, was that very few coaches stray very far from .500
 
Yes-it's what I want.

Then you're completely delusional, or mesmerized by shiny objects, in this case a SERPER BERHL RIIIIIING ERMAGHERD. There's no sense in arguing with you, man......sometimes you just gotta let the kid touch the stove to know that it's hot.
 
Yes, little Johnny, what's your question?? "what about Gru-bage's time in Oakland?? Does that not count??" No, Johnny, it doesn't. Most young men that are being recruited to play for the University of Tennessee right now are 17 and 18 years old, there are some 16 year olds in the mix, so I'll throw them in, too. FACT: Jon Gruden's last season with the Oakland Raiders was 2001, which with my Georgia education means that if Gru-bage was to take over for the 2013 season, it would have been 12 years since he last coached at OAK. 18-12=6, Johnny. At 6 years old, you're not worried about what a coach in the NFL is doing, his win/loss record, or how many points his offense scored.......you're more worried about who has cooties in the sandbox, and whether your Mom packed your favorite PB&J sandwich for snack time in kindergarten. We won't be taking that into account, Johnny, but thank you for your question.

Why does whether or not HS kids watched him in Oakland affect any evidence of his coaching ability in Oakland. I assure you, HS kids will be excited to play for him. We need to worry about his ACTUAL coaching ability, not his PERCEIVED coaching ability.

SMH :no:
 
Why does whether or not HS kids watched him in Oakland affect any evidence of his coaching ability in Oakland. I assure you, HS kids will be excited to play for him. We need to worry about his ACTUAL coaching ability, not his PERCEIVED coaching ability.

SMH :no:


ACTUAL coaching ability has already been proven, amigo. Check the post you quoted. Gruden is a clown shoe that puts (*male bovine fecal matter*) on the field, and calls himself an offensive genius. PERCEIVED coaching ability is what all the "Grubageites" are doing on here as we speak. "Gruden would wipe his (*donkey*) with Alabama" "Gruden would have a top 5 class every year because he has a SB ring".
 
Then you're completely delusional, or mesmerized by shiny objects, in this case a SERPER BERHL RIIIIIING ERMAGHERD. There's no sense in arguing with you, man......sometimes you just gotta let the kid touch the stove to know that it's hot.

Glad you're here, Lombardi.
 
ACTUAL coaching ability has already been proven, amigo. Check the post you quoted. Gruden is a clown shoe that puts (*male bovine fecal matter*) on the field, and calls himself an offensive genius. PERCEIVED coaching ability is what all the "Grubageites" are doing on here as we speak. "Gruden would wipe his (*donkey*) with Alabama" "Gruden would have a top 5 class every year because he has a SB ring".

I know you won't take this well, but I actually feel sorry for you that you can't get excited about this. It's a shame every fanbase has folks that want to piss on everything, no matter how positive it seems.
 
Canned Gruden after going 9-7 two years in a row . . . 19-35 since then.

Winning consistently in the NFL is just hard to do. We're talking about a league where Jon Gruden, Jeff Fisher, Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier have all been run out of town recently. None of those guys are stupid.
 
Canned Gruden after going 9-7 two years in a row . . . 19-35 since then.

Might that be because they're STILL trying to clean up the mess that was left?? Rah tried and failed.....but Schiano's impressing the hell out of me so far. I think he's going to make a dang decent coach.
 
Might that be because they're STILL trying to clean up the mess that was left?? Rah tried and failed.....but Schiano's impressing the hell out of me so far. I think he's going to make a dang decent coach.

Coaches don't leave "messes" in the NFL. They don't recruit. Your brilliance is never-ending.
 
Canned Gruden after going 9-7 two years in a row . . . 19-35 since then.

And lets not forget their cap issues, or the fact that they lost out on 4 high draft picks in order to get Gruden. Pay no attention to any of that.

I get why this guy has some reservations in that he is a Bucs fan from his banner, but let it go. Gruden remains at the top of everyone's list-sometimes coaches just wear out their welcome. Happened to Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fisher. Hell, look at Cowher's overall record with the Steelers.

And concerns over recruiting? If Charlie Weis can put together top 15 classes I have a feeling Jon Gruden can as well.
 
Might that be because they're STILL trying to clean up the mess that was left?? Rah tried and failed.....but Schiano's impressing the hell out of me so far. I think he's going to make a dang decent coach.

That's crazy. It's 4 years later!?!

Bobby Petrino and Michael Vick burned down the Atlanta Falcons and look where they are today.
 
Might that be because they're STILL trying to clean up the mess that was left?? Rah tried and failed.....but Schiano's impressing the hell out of me so far. I think he's going to make a dang decent coach.

Cause that mess had nothing to do with an ownership group more interested in an EPL team...
 
ACTUAL coaching ability has already been proven, amigo. Check the post you quoted. Gruden is a clown shoe that puts (*male bovine fecal matter*) on the field, and calls himself an offensive genius. PERCEIVED coaching ability is what all the "Grubageites" are doing on here as we speak. "Gruden would wipe his (*donkey*) with Alabama" "Gruden would have a top 5 class every year because he has a SB ring".

Presumably you can support this idea that Grudens isn't one of the best offensive coaches in the world?

Wonder where the perception came from?
 
Might that be because they're STILL trying to clean up the mess that was left?? Rah tried and failed.....but Schiano's impressing the hell out of me so far. I think he's going to make a dang decent coach.

How did he leave a mess? This is almost the stupid argument about won with Dungy's team.
 
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