Bray- the 50/50 QB

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First of all, this is not an excuse thread for Dooley. He is as responsible for UT's record as anyone. However, Bray needs to own his share of this mess as well. It seems with Bray, you have a 50 50 shot of getting a calm, comfortable passer making good reads, hitting his check downs, completing passes and making correct audibles when necessary; or you get a QB that looks uncertain, uncomfortable in the pocket, missing open recievers or throwing INTs that make you yell "what the hell were you thinkg"? With a new defensive coordinator and a new defensive scheme, everyone knew there would be some heartaches with the D. No one thought it would be this bad however. And this is the reason more than ever, for a competent offense that should be able to score points and play keep away, keeping our D off the field. However, we have seen too many 3 and outs or costly turnovers putting our D in a bad spot. There are more threads than I care to count calling out the coaching staff. At some point, Bray needs to grow up and truley take ownership of this team. No more of this refusing to talk to the media because I played like crap crybaby sh!t. At this point, I would rather see what Worley or Peterman could do.
 
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totally agree...bag bray and put in worley!!...i mean shoot...we gonna lose anyways so might as well give the experience to worley and see if he can pull us out of this slump.
 
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Peterman won't play this year. They're not going to burn his red shirt barring serious injury to Tyler or Justin.
 
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Rocky_Top_Vol13 said:
First of all, this is not an excuse thread for Dooley. He is as responsible for UT's record as anyone. However, Bray needs to own his share of this mess as well. It seems with Bray, you have a 50 50 shot of getting a calm, comfortable passer making good reads, hitting his check downs, completing passes and making correct audibles when necessary; or you get a QB that looks uncertain, uncomfortable in the pocket, missing open recievers or throwing INTs that make you yell "what the hell were you thinkg"? With a new defensive coordinator and a new defensive scheme, everyone knew there would be some heartaches with the D. No one thought it would be this bad however. And this is the reason more than ever, for a competent offense that should be able to score points and play keep away, keeping our D off the field. However, we have seen too many 3 and outs or costly turnovers putting our D in a bad spot. There are more threads than I care to count calling out the coaching staff. At some point, Bray needs to grow up and truley take ownership of this team. No more of this refusing to talk to the media because I played like crap crybaby sh!t. At this point, I would rather see what Worley or Peterman could do.
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Paragraphs are your friend. Just another thread pilling on Bray. Nothing new to see here.
 
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Rocky_Top_Vol13 said:
First of all, this is not an excuse thread for Dooley. He is as responsible for UT's record as anyone. However, Bray needs to own his share of this mess as well. It seems with Bray, you have a 50 50 shot of getting a calm, comfortable passer making good reads, hitting his check downs, completing passes and making correct audibles when necessary; or you get a QB that looks uncertain, uncomfortable in the pocket, missing open recievers or throwing INTs that make you yell "what the hell were you thinkg"? With a new defensive coordinator and a new defensive scheme, everyone knew there would be some heartaches with the D. No one thought it would be this bad however. And this is the reason more than ever, for a competent offense that should be able to score points and play keep away, keeping our D off the field. However, we have seen too many 3 and outs or costly turnovers putting our D in a bad spot. There are more threads than I care to count calling out the coaching staff. At some point, Bray needs to grow up and truley take ownership of this team. No more of this refusing to talk to the media because I played like crap crybaby sh!t. At this point, I would rather see what Worley or Peterman could do.
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By 50-50 do you mean SEC game vs Non SEC game? Heard the following numbers on the EA show:
Vs non conf: 68% with 30 TDs and 5 Ints
Vs SEC: 51% with 21 TDs and 20 Ints
 
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They showed a stat on Sport Source Sunday Bray out of conference was like 29 TDs and 5 ints. But the SEC he was 20TDs and 21ints. Those number might not ne exact but they are close to what they said. And who ever thinks this guy is a first round pick this year does not know what they are talking about. Bray and Hunter are not. The NFL scouts know what they do against SEC top teams. That is where you step up and become first round picks. These two do not do that.
 
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Fighting Possum said:
By 50-50 do you mean SEC game vs Non SEC game? Heard the following numbers on the EA show:
Vs non conf: 68% with 30 TDs and 5 Ints
Vs SEC: 51% with 21 TDs and 20 Ints
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By 50 50 I mean you have a 50% chance of getting a good capable QB and you also have 50% chance of getting a QB that shouldn't start for any SEC team
 
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If your asking Bray to be a man, good luck with that. Maturity isn't there. This guy will have nothing to do but blame UT and Dooley for not developing him as a player, and costing him millions of dollars. I'm all for benching Bray and giving Worley a shot! As for Peterman, lets pray he stays and doesn't walk away. If I were him and they tried to make me burn my redshirt like they did Worley, I'd decline and leave the school. That was one of Dooley's dumbest moves to throw Worley in, only to pull him for Simms and flip flop until Bray was healthy again.
 
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Fighting Possum said:
By 50-50 do you mean SEC game vs Non SEC game? Heard the following numbers on the EA show:
Vs non conf: 68% with 30 TDs and 5 Ints
Vs SEC: 51% with 21 TDs and 20 Ints
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I see this often, but wouldn't this be the case with most quarterbacks in this league? Maybe it wouldn't be this disparate, but I imagine non-conference numbers would be better considering the OOC competition the SEC plays (outside of maybe one "tough" game in a season).

I was just curious if such a comparison were done with other conference QBs.
 
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CDD got stuck with Bray and in year 1 his only option was Simms which wasn't a very good option.

Year 2 was Bray or Worley that had zero real game experience and very little time to learn and grow but Bray was hurt so Worley got tossed into the fire and we know how well that worked out.

This is midseason of year 3 and CDD is still stuck with Bray and Worley that has a little more real game experience but took hard lumps last season and not much success to build his confidence.

At least CDD put Worley in the alaBubba game and he hit 4 of 5 passes and moved us down to where we could kick a Field Goal and put points on the board and give Worley a little more confidence.

Most fans on here hate CDD for doing that but fans are most times shortsighted where football is concerned.

Worley gained a little more experience against a good D and he gained very important confidence in himself which could pay off nicely in the future.

Our FG kicker did make the kick so that's also good for building more confidence and could also be good for our future if we need a FG to Win a game down the road.

I'd love it if Bray plays poorly again and CDD sends him to whine and pout on the bench.

I'd love it even more if Worley came in and lit it up and we beat Spurrier and USCe by 3 TD's.

That could give us the spark we need to Win out the rest of this season and Win our bowl game too.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Stealing from another thread, I think Tyler's work for this week will include:

1) Take him to subway and pay the sandwich guy a few bucks to not give bray what he wants and make him choose another sandwich or type of cheese.
2) We are going to have him practice looking at the roast beef while ordering the turkey.
3) For the final game day preparation, we are going to have him to order a sandwich with tomato on it. But right before the Subway chick puts the tomato on, he will audible to lettuce only.

It's going to take some work.
 
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I wouldn't call Bray a 50/50 QB right now.

I think he has all the ability in the world, but he just hasn't shown up when it counts most and that is how a QB is ultimately measured. In the biggest games, he is more like a 30/70 (or worse). Of course, it doesn't help when the defense can't get a stop or when his most talented reciever drops potentially game-changing passes.

I think the bottom-line, whether it is fair or not, is that he has to find a way to get it done against hight quality SEC competition. He hasn't done that yet. Not really even close.

However, he has another shot this weekend. Here's to him finally getting it done!
 
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Georgia Peaches is rocking Tyler's world before about half the games. I wonder if there is a correlation?
 
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TennesseeStudVOL said:
totally agree...bag bray and put in worley!!...i mean shoot...we gonna lose anyways so might as well give the experience to worley and see if he can pull us out of this slump.
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Finally, someone who agrees with me. Let Worley play some meaningful minutes. Send the signal to Bray. He will either fight for his position or he will wilt away.
If he wilts away, then we have an extra slot to recruit someone in to the team.
If he fights for his position, then he will be a better player.
 
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A coach like Jon Gruden could turn Bray into a #1 pick if Bray buys in. And, if he doesn't, he will become a 2nd stringer.
 
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People calling for Peterman to play are really shortsighted.

Why would you burn an entire season of eligibility to try to salvage this one?

If you are that against Bray playing- at least be intelligent about it and call for Worley to start, Bray to backup, and Peterman to keep his RS until next year and then next year... open up the position for competition between all 3 (or 2 if Bray leaves).

Either way, Bray needs to start this weekend (and actually pulled if he plays poorly, not just yelled at) and Peterman needs to stay off of the field at least until next year.
 
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DD has not developed Bray nor been strong enough with his discipline. But with out Bray DD may have been fired last year. You people calling for TB's head are crazy. Worley is horrible and Bray is the only reason we have won any games the last few years.
 
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vSphereGuy said:
People calling for Peterman to play are really shortsighted.

Why would you burn an entire season of eligibility to try to salvage this one?

If you are that against Bray playing- at least be intelligent about it and call for Worley to start, Bray to backup, and Peterman to keep his RS until next year and then next year... open up the position for competition between all 3 (or 2 if Bray leaves).

Either way, Bray needs to start this weekend (and actually pulled if he plays poorly, not just yelled at) and Peterman needs to stay off of the field at least until next year.
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Yeah, no way we can burn a redshirt season for Peterman at this point
 
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k-town_king said:
DD has not developed Bray nor been strong enough with his discipline. But with out Bray DD may have been fired last year. You people calling for TB's head are crazy. Worley is horrible and Bray is the only reason we have won any games the last few years.
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Tyler Bray...is that you?:eek:k:
 
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TennesseeStudVOL said:
totally agree...bag bray and put in worley!!...i mean shoot...we gonna lose anyways so might as well give the experience to worley and see if he can pull us out of this slump.
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We gonna lose anyways??

This fanbase is one giant facepalm right now..
 
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k-town_king said:
DD has not developed Bray nor been strong enough with his discipline. But with out Bray DD may have been fired last year. You people calling for TB's head are crazy. Worley is horrible and Bray is the only reason we have won any games the last few years.
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Worley is horrible?

Lol... Ok, chief..
 
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it took DD two years to develop a center..come on guys, Bray will be All World next year under his paln.
 
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Bray is not very tough and not at all a leader. That's a problem at the QB position. We need better. We need better on defense too--players and DC.
 
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