Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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OCI?

So confused.

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By thread title there were no obvious threads against Gruden. Sure, there are a lot of Gruden threads but I thought I'd make one that's obviously against the idea!
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Against the idea or not believing it will happen?
Big difference.
 
There is where you fail to understand the fundamental problem that Dooley has. His record gives him absolutely no grounds to publicly berate anybody. If I was a world class athlete like Hunter or Da'Rick my response would be...WTF have you done. I'm not saying it is morally right or even ideal, but Dooley doesn't have a hip to stand on.

You are awesome.
 
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To the insiders:

DOOLEY WAS TOLD AFTER MSU HE WON'T BE BACK

Insiders disagree here.

DOOLEY WILL BE LET GO SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SC GAME

All insiders agree on this timeline?

NO FORMAL OFFER

If Dooley has already been informed of his fate then isn't the job technically open?

Is it any more ethical to negotiate an informal offer while the team faces the toughest stretch on the schedule and still has a chance to salvage the season?

CONSENSUS?

Is there a consensus among you at this point other than "good news is coming"? If you claim to be an insider and have posted in this thread I assume you won't mind going on record for those who haven't read 20,000 posts or can't recall exactly which of you predicted what.



Thank you.
Fonzarelli
 
Lulz at the guy who thinks its his civic duty to hold these "insiders" accountable. It's a freaking message board bro, believe what you want. The real Fonz wouldn't be such a incessant douche...
 
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Sorry I haven't had time to read 15K+ post in the Gruden thread the last couple weeks. I reported something that actually happened and you seem to be upset about it. The ones complaining about e-cred are probably the only ones concerned about it.

But you did know this thread was up and running, yes?
 
Lulz at the guy who thinks its his civic duty to hold these "insiders" accountable. It's a freaking message board bro, believe what you want. The real Fonz wouldn't be such a incessant douche...

I politely ask a few questions and get called a douche. Awesome.

I'm not calling anyone out. I'm just asking for some clarification which should help everyone fend off any future e-cred battles that may arise.
 
I politely ask a few questions and get called a douche. Awesome.

I'm not calling anyone out. I'm just asking for some clarification which should help everyone fend off any future e-cred battles that may arise.

That's twice now you've done this. Nobody gives a damn about what you're trying to do. Quit being so lazy and read through the damn thread yourself
 
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I'm a bath salt man myself but if you are offering......:)

Well if you feel the urge to chomp somebody's face off, go for DD's. Just stay away from the hair. He will need it in place for his next job. I hear Gruden likes his personal butt-wiper to maintain a professional hair style....
 
Not sure why people don't like OCI. He's had some pretty good info over the last couple of years. The 3 amigos thing was pretty bad, but just about everyone thought Denico Autry was a silent committ. And, with what has come to light about Miss State's recruiting, $$$, especially with the Ms juco coaches, it's probably not fair to be too hard on him for that missed prediction.
 
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I don't disagree with what you are saying. Bray and Hunter have definitely been disappointing this season. I do feel however, that there are more effective ways of trying to get players to understand there weaknesses. Using the media to try and reach them just shows that Dooley is in over his head, and is overall an ineffective communicator with his players. Either that, or he has totally lost control of this team. Not good no matter which way you look at it, once again IMO

Spot on. One of the main things a strong leader does is praise in public and rebuke in private. I am a horrible husband if I am dogging my wife to other people(never do btw) instead of doing the hard yet proper thing and having an honest discussion with her in which I admit my failures as well. That is what leaders do. The fact a coach has to use the bully pulpit shows (imo) that there is not a trust there with his players that provides an open line of communication. My PERCEPTION is that DD is concerned with making DD look good, and he has done this for 3 years. I get the impression he was forced to take the job by the way he has talked at times. Cowards throw people under the bus.
 
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