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SigNu_VolFan said:
What's laughable to me is that everyone responds with "Spurrier was a proven winner." Okay, fine. If Spurrier was a proven winner and it took him 5 years to turn it around, why does Dooley only get 3? Dooley walked into a tougher situation, yet he's expected to have better results than Spurrier.
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Its almost right place, wrong time for Dooley. Not only what you mentioned above, but his 3 years just happen to be during arguably the strongest stretch of success the SEC has had in a long, long time.
 
#10,927
#10,927
SigNu_VolFan said:
What's laughable to me is that everyone responds with "Spurrier was a proven winner." Okay, fine. If Spurrier was a proven winner and it took him 5 years to turn it around, why does Dooley only get 3? Dooley walked into a tougher situation, yet he's expected to have better results than Spurrier.
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whats laughable to me is that there is even comparison between how USCe and UT handles business. i could care less if Spurrier gets 10 years. they have not nor will they ever have a chance at winning a NC. that is our goal, so what they do or dont do is of no concern or relevance.
 
#10,928
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orange parmejohn said:
whats laughable to me is that there is even comparison between how USCe and UT handles business. i could care less if Spurrier gets 10 years. they have not nor will they ever have a chance at winning a NC. that is our goal, so what they do or dont do is of no concern or relevance.
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What? This makes absolutely no sense. Their goal at the end of the day is in NO WAY different than Tennessee's: Win a national championship. Anyway, laugh's on you if you don't think they had a chance this year. When you're undefeated, you control your own destiny in this league.
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SigNu_VolFan said:
What's laughable to me is that everyone responds with "Spurrier was a proven winner." Okay, fine. If Spurrier was a proven winner and it took him 5 years to turn it around, why does Dooley only get 3? Dooley walked into a tougher situation, yet he's expected to have better results than Spurrier.
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Let's give him ten.
 
#10,932
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SigNu_VolFan said:
What's laughable to me is that everyone responds with "Spurrier was a proven winner." Okay, fine. If Spurrier was a proven winner and it took him 5 years to turn it around, why does Dooley only get 3? Dooley walked into a tougher situation, yet he's expected to have better results than Spurrier.
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+1
 
#10,934
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SigNu_VolFan said:
What? This makes absolutely no sense. Their goal at the end of the day is in NO WAY different than Tennessee's: Win a national championship. Anyway, laugh's on you if you don't think they had a chance this year. When you're undefeated, you control your own destiny in this league.
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If the two jobs were comparable, you would have a good point. However they are not. South Carolina isn't, and won't ever be Tennessee. The stakes are higher here, and so are the expectations. What took 5 years at USCjr should only take 3 at UT.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
If the two jobs were comparable, you would have a good point. However they are not. South Carolina isn't, and won't ever be Tennessee. The stakes are higher here, and so are the expectations. What took 5 years at USCjr should only take 3 at UT.
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With all due respect, what are we playing for that USCe isn't? Are they not trying to win the East, SEC, and National Championship? Just trying to understand what you are saying here.
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SigNu_VolFan said:
What's laughable to me is that everyone responds with "Spurrier was a proven winner." Okay, fine. If Spurrier was a proven winner and it took him 5 years to turn it around, why does Dooley only get 3? Dooley walked into a tougher situation, yet he's expected to have better results than Spurrier.
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You can't reason with negativity, and VN is flooded with it. I'm just glad this place doesn't represent the majority of the fans.
 
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LynxVol said:
You can't reason with negativity, and VN is flooded with it. I'm just glad this place doesn't represent the majority of the fans.
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I used to share this feeling as well, not so sure I believe it anymore. Whats sad is that its probably going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
 
#10,942
#10,942
I haven't really seen any sources saying Dooley is out on either 247 or VQ. Both are along the same line of thought. We just put millions into training facilities, CDD's and the assistant's contracts would have to be bought out, search consultants hired, and hiring new coaches would create more expenses.

247 claims that Hart doesn't want to fire Dooley unless he is "forced to" make that decision.
 
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I dont think Hart will do anything soon. The Sal hire was heavily influenced by Hart and growing pains were expected on defense. We've scored what, 100 points in 3 sec games and have 0 wins? The offense is playing fairly well even if we are throwing 30-40 yard fly patterns on third and one.
Not sounding good on Lane. More will come out on him later today.
 
#10,944
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SigNu_VolFan said:
With all due respect, what are we playing for that USCe isn't? Are they not trying to win the East, SEC, and National Championship? Just trying to understand what you are saying here.
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Everyone is playing for the same thing sure, but does that make Kentucky the same job as Tennessee? What about Eastern Michigan or Utah State? They are playing to win the Nat'l Championship too.

Tennessee is a different job than USCjr because of the money pumped into the program, the history of the program and the facilities of the program. All of these things add up to higher expectations and a higher standard. South Carolina has had a cute little run for the last 3 years, but that doesn't put them on par with Tennessee. The minute Tennessee lowers themselves to the standard of expectations that USCjr has for its football program is the minute Tennessee stops being Tennessee.
 
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Watching guys like Ray Lewis on Sunday makes me think that we need a leader like that on defense. The Ravens seem to put in maximum effort on every play, every game with him leading the team. Motivation that the coaches can't bring.

Our leader this year was supposed to be Lathers. What happened? (Besides his shoulder injury, I mean.) :question:
 
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LynxVol said:
I haven't really seen any sources saying Dooley is out on either 247 or VQ. Both are along the same line of thought. We just put millions into training facilities, CDD's and the assistant's contracts would have to be bought out, search consultants hired, and hiring new coaches would create more expenses.

247 claims that Hart doesn't want to fire Dooley unless he is "forced to" make that decision.
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After thinking about this, I believe Hart will only be "forced" to fire Dooley if we go 6-6, which would mean losing to either Troy, Missouri, Vanderbilt, or Kentucky. At 7-5, we go to a bowl game and are assured the first winning season since 2009, and with a bowl win could reach 8 wins for the first time since 2007.
 
#10,948
#10,948
OCIVol said:
After thinking about this, I believe Hart will only be "forced" to fire Dooley if we go 6-6, which would mean losing to either Troy, Missouri, Vanderbilt, or Kentucky. At 7-5, we go to a bowl game and are assured the first winning season since 2009, and with a bowl win could reach 8 wins for the first time since 2007.
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I agree with this assessment.

If UT wins out the last 4 games. Dooley is going to stay.
 
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#10,949
skeeter33418 said:
I dont think Hart will do anything soon. The Sal hire was heavily influenced by Hart and growing pains were expected on defense. We've scored what, 100 points in 3 sec games and have 0 wins? The offense is playing fairly well even if we are throwing 30-40 yard fly patterns on third and one.
Not sounding good on Lane. More will come out on him later today.
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What are you hearing about Lane? Done for the year? Will Rajion be able to go this week?
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#10,950
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skeeter33418 said:
I dont think Hart will do anything soon. The Sal hire was heavily influenced by Hart and growing pains were expected on defense. We've scored what, 100 points in 3 sec games and have 0 wins? The offense is playing fairly well even if we are throwing 30-40 yard fly patterns on third and one.
Not sounding good on Lane. More will come out on him later today.
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Uh oh...he isn't leaving the team is he?:unsure:
 
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