Has Serrano Conceded the State in Recruiting?

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With Will Crowe's committment to USCe last week and reports that the Vols werent even involved in his recruitment at all, is the staff conceding the top recruits within the state of Tennessee and looking for top talent in other places?


I believe this actually might be a good tactic if this indeed is happening. Then gradually work back into the state as the programs reputation is built back with the locals.
 
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I wouldn't read too much into what happened in the recruitment of only 1 guy.
 
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If a player is good enough for the sec and comes from the state of Tennessee, I find it hard to believe that Serrano was not interested. Don't forget USCe has been to the world series 3 straight years.
 
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He did recruit Wil. Just got in on him later because he has only be the HC one season and was already recruiting other guys he knew better. He thought he had the pitching taken care of anyway until recent, unexpected developments with a couple recruits.
 
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knoxville's finest said:
If a player is good enough for the sec and comes from the state of Tennessee, I find it hard to believe that Serrano was not interested. Don't forget USCe has been to the world series 3 straight years.
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I would find that hard to believe as well but I am told he wasn't recruited by the Vols at all.
 
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BruinVol said:
I would find that hard to believe as well but I am told he wasn't recruited by the Vols at all.
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No offense but whoever told you that is wrong. He was asked that question on a radio interview not long ago and mentioned UT recruiting him, but SC just felt like a better fit. Like the poster above mentioned, I think this was a too little, too late scenario only because Serrano hasn't been around long.

Serrano's been pulling some pretty good instate talent while he's been here, and it will only get better when the W's start piling up.
 
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EnglewoodVol said:
No offense but whoever told you that is wrong. He was asked that question on a radio interview not long ago and mentioned UT recruiting him, but SC just felt like a better fit. Like the poster above mentioned, I think this was a too little, too late scenario only because Serrano hasn't been around long.

Serrano's been pulling some pretty good instate talent while he's been here, and it will only get better when the W's start piling up.
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Fair enough. I will ask around a see if my info is wrong.

I will disagree that DS was hurt due to time. A full year passed before any decision was made. IMO getting hired before his junior year even started is plenty of time to recruit a local kid.
 
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Say what you want but Wil said in an article in the Mountain Press this past week that he did hear from UT, but they got in late. He already had a solid relationship with USCe. Given the choice he could play for the team that has finished #1, #1, #2 over the past three seasons - or - take a chance on a Serrano/UT turnaround. No brainer.
 
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Vols4us said:
Say what you want but Wil said in an article in the Mountain Press this past week that he did hear from UT, but they got in late. He already had a solid relationship with USCe. Given the choice he could play for the team that has finished #1, #1, #2 over the past three seasons - or - take a chance on a Serrano/UT turnaround. No brainer.
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I found the article in the news sentinel and he was quoted saying that both schools had recruited him a little over a month. IMO there is no excuse for the Vols not to have been recruiting him for much longer than a month unless their plan is as I mentioned before to concede the state. Getting in to late had nothing to do with having a new coach according to his quotes.
 
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OP, are you saying the current recruits from TN are not top talent? There are several, this does not look like conceding the state to me.
 
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OrangeDew said:
OP, are you saying the current recruits from TN are not top talent? There are several, this does not look like conceding the state to me.
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Simcox is the only recruit that IMO can be considered of the instate recruits to be elite. The rest were not recruited by any big schools that I am aware of. I think they are taking a lot chances on fridge in state prospects and going out of state for their high scholarship impact elite players .
 
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I know of one ELITE Tennessee recruit that watched Serrano this year and didn't like the way he treated some of his players. He has gone elsewhere. Serrano has also been caught failing to relay information from scouts to his players, something his predecessor was well known for. Considering that most players have aspirations of playing after college this does nothing to instill confidence in Serrano and would be something most players with a future should avoid. I really thought we had gotten past that kind of stuff. Maybe not.
 
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CTim said:
I know of one ELITE Tennessee recruit that watched Serrano this year and didn't like the way he treated some of his players. He has gone elsewhere. Serrano has also been caught failing to relay information from scouts to his players, something his predecessor was well known for. Considering that most players have aspirations of playing after college this does nothing to instill confidence in Serrano and would be something most players with a future should avoid. I really thought we had gotten past that kind of stuff. Maybe not.
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DS hasn't been here a full year and you guys are already complaining, overanalyzing, and conceding the state of Tennessee. "Experts"
 
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darkgable said:
DS hasn't been here a full year and you guys are already complaining, overanalyzing, and conceding the state of Tennessee. "Experts"
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In th op I stated that i believed it to be a good strategy to "concede" the state and it's elite talent. Concede was probably not the best choice of words but I will try to explain why I feel that way.

Vandy is so strong with the instate guys and with their endless amount of scholarship money(see discussion on need base money in the stone thread) nearly every elite player within the state is being grabbed by Candy. For that reason I think DS and staff have Emphasized other areas of the country instead of beating their heads against a wall built by a rock solid candy and poor reputation that must be rebuilt with the locals. Simply put its easier to recruit elite players in places outside of the state IMO which results in saving scholarship dollars.
 
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CTim said:
I know of one ELITE Tennessee recruit that watched Serrano this year and didn't like the way he treated some of his players. He has gone elsewhere. Serrano has also been caught failing to relay information from scouts to his players, something his predecessor was well known for. Considering that most players have aspirations of playing after college this does nothing to instill confidence in Serrano and would be something most players with a future should avoid. I really thought we had gotten past that kind of stuff. Maybe not.
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This is pure unadulterated trash. Nothing more and nothing less.
 
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BruinVol said:
Simcox is the only recruit that IMO can be considered of the instate recruits to be elite. The rest were not recruited by any big schools that I am aware of. I think they are taking a lot chances on fridge in state prospects and going out of state for their high scholarship impact elite players .
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I know of another that is elite that is instate.
 
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I don't think he's conceded anything.

It's important to remember Serrano wasn't hired until June of 2011. By that time, nearly all the truly elite 2012 high school graduates were already verbally committed to other schools. Also, there is much less backing out of verbals in baseball than in football or basketball.

It's likely he had to settle for better recruits than he inherited but not as good as he'll need to gain ground on the rest of the SEC.

At least give him a full recruiting cycle before getting pessimistic. I'm hopeful he'll sign a more distinguished group this November.

I've said all along it will take a while to turn this ship around.
 
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ShowmeVols said:
At least give him a full recruiting cycle before getting pessimistic. I'm hopeful he'll sign a more distinguished group this November.
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Honestly I didn't mean for the thread to be pessimistic just a discussion on where the staff was concentrating their efforts. I do not think this 13 class is going to be more distinguished in state than the last one. It might even be less because Simcox is a member of the 12 class and this class doesn't have that kind of local commit.

I don't see this as a bad thing because of the scholarship dollars that it would take to get these instate elite talents at this time. Hopefully a few years of success the staff will be able to go toe to toe with candy and their limitless schorlarships in state.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lee wasn't going to be a draft before the injury according to a few scouts I know. Elite talents are drafts of some kind out of high school IMO.
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Because Lee was adamant that he wasn't signing. So was his family.

If the scouts you associate with think Andrew Lee wasn't getting drafted if he had any signability at all, then they need to find a new career effective immediately.
 
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NYYVol said:
Because Lee was adamant that he wasn't signing. So was his family.

If the scouts you associate with think Andrew Lee wasn't getting drafted if he had any signability at all, then they need to find a new career effective immediately.
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Lee is one of the better instate recruits for DS but we will have to agree to disagree about him being elite. IMO he would be more of a high 3 star rating kind of talent for those that follow football recruiting.
 
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