'13 LA LB Melvin Jones

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TheVol_Tihts said:
I agree. If we perform well on the field this year I could see several in this class winding up elsewhere. There are a lot of great recruits that have real interest in UT. Just depends on how the season goes.
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It's the ugly part of recruiting but we saw it last year and I think we'll continue to see it with the way Dooley recruits. Tennessee traditionally signs a lot of their best talent closer to signing day. I will say that I expect us to close with some of the higher profile guys this year as we've done a good job of getting them on campus. Need to win as expected and it should be a nice day come early February.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
I think Vereen is our best LB currently committed, I really like him as a player. He can play multiple positions at LB in the 3-4. IMO he will move up the rankings as the season progresses.

I like Barnes better than Campbell & Zanca.
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I think every single scouting site is awful at evaluating the D-line and sometimes the LB position in a 3-4. You look at guys like Darius Page, Darren Lake, and Vinnie Sunseri that Bama has recruited the past 3 years. None of them are highly rated, but they fit perfectly in the scheme of the 3-4. Darius is going to be a really good DE, Lake a really good NT, and Sunseri made some plays last year for Bama.
 
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tvols75 said:
I think every single scouting site is awful at evaluating the D-line and sometimes the LB position in a 3-4. You look at guys like Darius Page, Darren Lake, and Vinnie Sunseri that Bama has recruited the past 3 years. None of them are highly rated, but they fit perfectly in the scheme of the 3-4. Darius is going to be a really good DE, Lake a really good NT, and Sunseri made some plays last year for Bama.
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I agree 100%. Mostly when these scouting services evaluate defensive players they evaluate them as if they were playing in a base 4-3 defense.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Let's hope he's smarter than Mac Campbell. Coached against him in HS, great RB, but couldn't even spell his name. Tremendous waste of talent. He was just as good as an 8th grader as he was a senior.
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I'm glad you went ahead and addressed the 'elephant in the room'. Indeed he was a tremendous waste of talent.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
But the paid UT coaching staff was.
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This is such a worn out argument. Fulmer was very impressed with Donald. Kiffin was very impressed with Askew. How did either of those guys turn out?

Coaches miss on players just as much as they get them right. People need to drop this "coaches can do no wrong, you're an idiot for disagreeing" attitude because a lot of these people that are blowing smoke now will be the first to criticize if the kid doesn't pan out.
 
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tvols75 said:
I think every single scouting site is awful at evaluating the D-line and sometimes the LB position in a 3-4. You look at guys like Darius Page, Darren Lake, and Vinnie Sunseri that Bama has recruited the past 3 years. None of them are highly rated, but they fit perfectly in the scheme of the 3-4. Darius is going to be a really good DE, Lake a really good NT, and Sunseri made some plays last year for Bama.
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Nice post.
 
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Dooley & staff going after a LB with a solid offer list and game film? Something strange is going on here.
 
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PA Vol said:
This is such a worn out argument. Fulmer was very impressed with Donald. Kiffin was very impressed with Askew. How did either of those guys turn out?

Coaches miss on players just as much as they get them right. People need to drop this "coaches can do no wrong, you're an idiot for disagreeing" attitude because a lot of these people that are blowing smoke now will be the first to criticize if the kid doesn't pan out.
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I'm not saying coaches never miss. I'm saying these kids that were offered and committed worked out in front of the coaches, multiple times in most cases, and earned the offer. What makes some think they can look at a rivals page or a few minutes of film and have a better scouting report on a kid than the staff?

I'm not saying we shouldn't all have opinions but do you really think you, me or anyone else posting on VN, knows more than Sal Sunseri when it comes to offering defensive players to play for UT?

I can understand complaining a few years from now if these kids flop but complaining now seems idiotic to me. JMO :peace2:
 
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I think that this class will be very simillar to the 2011 class when we took 8 db's with the only thing different is that we will be taking eight linebackers, so I don't look for us to recruit over any of our current linebacker committs, especially since we bombed last year in recruiting linebackers. Here is how I see this class shaking out.

Jack- Jason Hatcher / De'Vondre Camble
Sam- Corey Vereen / Zach Barnes
ILb- Dominic Zanca

Hybrid ( saftey- sam linebacker) Jaylen Reeves-Mayben

others to watch for

Jack- Lewis Neal( also watch us to keep recruiting Frank Herron)
Ilb-Yannick Ngakoue

longshot
ILB-Melvin Jones

plus we don't know what other linebackers will show up under the radar and get an offer
 
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jmoore_21 said:
I agree 100%. Mostly when these scouting services evaluate defensive players they evaluate them as if they were playing in a base 4-3 defense.
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Same argument for Zach Barnes. He is playing DE in a 4-3 (I think), and we are recruiting him as a LB in a 3-4...big difference in skill set needed for those 2 positions.
 
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volfrk86 said:
I think that this class will be very simillar to the 2011 class when we took 8 db's with the only thing different is that we will be taking eight linebackers, so I don't look for us to recruit over any of our current linebacker committs, especially since we bombed last year in recruiting linebackers. Here is how I see this class shaking out.

Jack- Jason Hatcher / De'Vondre Camble
Sam- Corey Vereen / Zach Barnes
ILb- Dominic Zanca

Hybrid ( saftey- sam linebacker) Jaylen Reeves-Mayben

others to watch for

Jack- Lewis Neal( also watch us to keep recruiting Frank Herron)
Ilb-Yannick Ngakoue

longshot
ILB-Melvin Jones

plus we don't know what other linebackers will show up under the radar and get an offer
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Campbell isn't a JACK & Vereen isn't a SAM. Reeves-Maybin isn't a hybrid, he's either a S or WR.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Campbell isn't a JACK & Vereen isn't a SAM. Reeves-Maybin isn't a hybrid, he's either a S or WR.
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the way I understand it they already told vereen that is where he would be playing. I was under the impression that cambell played an undersized DE at hutchison and could grow into a jack and I swear the told maybin that he would be a hybrid role saftey or sam line backer. maybe you have heard differently.
 
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Jones got his LSU offer and they really put the full court press on him to commit on the spot. Miles told him he would be the only mike they would offer this cycle. He resisted the pressure to commit and wants to take his visits. Still gotta believe he stays in state.
 
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Yeah I don't see LSU taking more than 1-2 LBs total unless there is chance they can play DE. If LSU gets some decent DL commits that takes priority.

The thing is, LSU is not waiting on in-state recruits anymore.

ORANGE & WHITE said:
Jones got his LSU offer and they really put the full court press on him to commit on the spot. Miles told him he would be the only mike they would offer this cycle. He resisted the pressure to commit and wants to take his visits. Still gotta believe he stays in state.
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PA Vol said:
This is such a worn out argument. Fulmer was very impressed with Donald. Kiffin was very impressed with Askew. How did either of those guys turn out?

Coaches miss on players just as much as they get them right. People need to drop this "coaches can do no wrong, you're an idiot for disagreeing" attitude because a lot of these people that are blowing smoke now will be the first to criticize if the kid doesn't pan out.
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Well said my friend :good!:
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah I don't see LSU taking more than 1-2 LBs total unless there is chance they can play DE. If LSU gets some decent DL commits that takes priority.

The thing is, LSU is not waiting on in-state recruits anymore.
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This is sort of huge. He had a great visit at the UA camp but was told by a pretty good LSU insider if LSU offered he would commit. Have to find out what happened.
 
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flowd82 said:
Link? I could be wrong, but I haven't seen that confirmation anywhere.
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I think he'll be used in a Curt Maggitt type of role. Play LB and on 3rd and long let him go get the QB. He's special in that area. But the Jack will be played by Jason Hatcher or Carl Lawson(I hope :) ).
 
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Reminds me of a LB I played with by the name of Kenneth Hollis. Played for Saban at LSU. Everyone should remember him as the guy that caught the Ainge pick in the endzone. Hollis wasn't to smart in the books but he could run and hit with the best of them.
 
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Bump. Any news lately, are we still after him? If so does anyone know where we stand?
 
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TideWarrior said:
LSU still seems to be the team to beat at the moment.
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I think it will depend on what position he wants to play, he puts on anymore weight he will have to move to DL at LSU I would think. I hear he is pretty fast for his size but LSU plays small ball much of the time on D.

Word has been LSU but you never know.
 
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