Barnhart: Vols on right track says Dooley

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brandonco05 said:
What are you talking about?
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brandonco05 said:
What are you talking about?

Edit: nevermind, I get it. Fact is they let that game go after a huge lead.
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They did. But also, Cam Newton.

As for the Carolina game, you could see it coming a mile away. Last of three straight big games, including a big win over Florida (huge game at the time), South Carolina coming off a bye with Gameday in town and a matchup advantage (Lattimore vs a rebuilding Bama run D)
 
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Incipient said:
They did. But also, Cam Newton.

As for the Carolina game, you could see it coming a mile away. Last of three straight big games, including a big win over Florida (huge game at the time), South Carolina coming off a bye with Gameday in town and a matchup advantage (Lattimore vs a rebuilding Bama run D)
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I get all that, but the fact is tvols is claiming we should go 10-2 because only one team is vastly superior, yet bama lost to 2 teams with less talent and one that was comparable. Alabama was more talented at every position except qb against auburn, dl is debatable.
 
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tvolsfan said:
They are a reason for why UT has been bad. They aren't a great reason for why UT has been historically bad and they don't justify the regression of the running game, offensive line play, etc.
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Well, when you combine it with being in a historically difficult conference, it closes that gap.

But I agree with most of what you say.
 
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brandonco05 said:
I get all that, but the fact is tvols is claiming we should go 10-2 because only one team is vastly superior, yet bama lost to 2 teams with less talent and one that was comparable. Alabama was more talented at every position except qb against auburn, dl is debatable.
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Yeah, but when you win national championships, you gain goodwill. When you've never had an upset victory, you'd best minimize your upset losses.
 
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Incipient said:
Yeah, but when you win national championships, you gain goodwill. When you've never had an upset victory, you'd best minimize your upset losses.
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Exactly. I'm not saying Dooley should be fired at 9-3. I am saying it's not really that big an achievement.
 
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Incipient said:
Yeah, but including Penn State is like including Mississippi State. Except Mississippi State was half-decent.
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Looking at that schedule, what kind of record do you think the Tennessee team would have? I see 3 games which are almost sure losses, and 3 others which seem to be questionable at best. With opponents having by weeks like Alabama's opponents had that year, I don't see much better than 7-5.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Looking at that schedule, what kind of record do you think the Tennessee team would have? I see 3 games which are almost sure losses, and 3 others which seem to be questionable at best.
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The 2010 Alabama schedule? Auburn, Arkansas, and LSU are sure losses. Carolina is a close call. We played them pretty well with our crappy 2010 team, but they had skills and a bye. Mississippi State should be a win but wouldn't be easy. Florida and Penn State are easy wins for any competent team.

I'd say expected record of 8-4 with 9-3 more likely than 7-5. Assuming we are competent.
 
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vollygirl said:
I have too. And something is definitely different.
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A bad coach that has never won anything coaching Tennessee is what's different.

It's hilarious to watch people twist and turn and try to reason out why Tennessee hasn't been a good team for awhile.

Fulmer got lazy, Lane left too soon and Dooley's not very good. He was a rush hire by an incompetent AD. He could very well ride Bray's arm to a good season. I'll be cheering for it.
 
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justingroves said:
Fulmer got lazy, Lane left too soon and Dooley's not very good. He was a rush hire by an incompetent AD. He could very well ride Bray's arm to a good season. I'll be cheering for it.
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This pretty much sums it up. Although Dooley is a smart guy who's been around some great coaches. He obviously wasn't ready for the UT job, but I still hold out a modicum of hope that the last two years have provided him with enough on-the-job learning to make him good. Or at least significantly better.
 
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justingroves said:
A bad coach that has never won anything coaching Tennessee is what's different.

It's hilarious to watch people twist and turn and try to reason out why Tennessee hasn't been a good team for awhile.

Fulmer got lazy, Lane left too soon and Dooley's not very good. He was a rush hire by an incompetent AD. He could very well ride Bray's arm to a good season. I'll be cheering for it.
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I'm hoping for 10-2 or 7-5 and Gruden.
 
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Incipient said:
This pretty much sums it up. Although Dooley is a smart guy who's been around some great coaches. He obviously wasn't ready for the UT job, but I still hold out a modicum of hope that the last two years have provided him with enough on-the-job learning to make him good. Or at least significantly better.
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I get the feeling that he is intelligent, but I don't think he has nearly what it takes to win in the SEC.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Exactly. The problem with that is if Bray, Rogers, and Hunter leave and he follows it up with 7-5, does Tennessee have the stones to fire Dooley?
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We'd better. If you're in your 4th year and can't win without the QB Lane left you, that's a problem. Really like to think it doesn't come to that, but chances are not small.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I get the feeling that he is intelligent, but I don't think he has nearly what it takes to win in the SEC.
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I'm not convinced either, but I hope he convinces both of us. I do think he's never going to shut down like the end of last year again. That's a mistake you don't make twice.
 
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