Questionable no-calls by refs in the NCAAs

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Top two that I've seen so far:

1) Oden not getting an intentional (possibly flagrant) for the Al Wilson-like hit he put on Cage from Xavier at the end of regulation. I know this has probably been hashed about here a ton, but how that wasn't called is beyond me. And it cost Xavier the game, period. End of sentence.

2) Cain not getting a T for hanging on the rim. I didn't see it at first, but JaJuan did, and was telling the refs about it - apparently they didn't think it was worth reviewing, even though it was an obvious T and could have cost UT the game.

And I didn't see it, but I heard Ben Howland was frantically jumping up and down and waving his arms at the Indiana player trying to in-bound the ball at the end of the game last night on the sideline in front of the UCLA bench (with the game on the line). Why that's not addressed by the refs without at least a warning is very questionable.
 
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Though I can't think of any right now, there have been many questionable calls throughout the tournament. Not just with games like ours that I would really care about.
 
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First, every year, there are criticisms of the officiating. Overall, I think they do a pretty good job. Sure, they miss things. But for the most part they are on top of it.

Second, it has always been my impression that they do let the players play in the tournament. That is one of the reasons that teams with a bigger inside presence end up doing so well - its because of the rebounding advantage they get from conservatively officiated games.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Second, it has always been my impression that they do let the players play in the tournament. .
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I don't think they did that in the UT/UVA game today. I thought the officiating was awful, nice that we won so I don't look like some sore loser complaining about the refs.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sure, they miss things. But for the most part they are on top of it.
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Except for the biggest no-call that could affect the rest of the tournament (Oden's intentional shove). That was unacceptable and should be noted. And OSU has bad karma as a result. And they know it.
 
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allvol123 said:
I don't think they did that in the UT/UVA game today. I thought the officiating was awful, nice that we won so I don't look like some sore loser complaining about the refs.
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Not a fair comparison to what I am talking about -- both are guard-oriented teams.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Second, it has always been my impression that they do let the players play in the tournament.
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I agree with you, and unfortunately a bunch of games have gotten ugly (Illinois-Va. Tech, Nova-Kentucky, BC-GTown) in part b/c of loose officiating. I prefer a game called fairly close just so players don't start hacking away and thinking that's okay. A cleaner game is better basketball, IMO.
 
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Oden was seen earlier purchasing a bazooka here in Columbus. Supposedly he learned that discharging it at opposing players isn't enough to warrant a technical or a flagrant, so what's the harm in using it?
 
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1. Should have been called, but that isn't what cost them the game. Missing a FT that would have put them up 4 cost them the game.

2. Should have been called as well. There was a ref right under the goal and there was one at about the FT line. Find it hard to believe that neither one of them saw that.

What do you expect though. Officiating, at it's best, is pathetic in college basketball.
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, every year, there are criticisms of the officiating. Overall, I think they do a pretty good job. Sure, they miss things. But for the most part they are on top of it.
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I agree for the most part but let's face it, if they would have called that intentional on Oden like they should have, it could have changed the tournament.

Personally, I'm kind of glad the Vols get another shot at Ohio State but Xavier probably would have been better for us. Then again who knows.
 
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utvol0427 said:
1. Should have been called, but that isn't what cost them the game. Missing a FT that would have put them up 4 cost them the game.
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What do you expect though. Officiating, at it's best, is pathetic in college basketball.
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Isn't that kind of like blaming someone for getting mugged because they were walking down a street at night?

And making one of two FTs (which he did) and getting the ball back would've sealed the deal. And the guy had to take a shot to the floor and then get up and shoot FTs, so that's not exactly an easy task. And the FT rolled in and out. So the no-call actually did cost them the game.

I guess I expect them to make an obvious call, especially with the game on the line.
 
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wbarron said:
Isn't that kind of like blaming someone for getting mugged because they were walking down a street at night?

And making one of two FTs (which he did) and getting the ball back would've sealed the deal. And the guy had to take a shot to the floor and then get up and shoot FTs, so that's not exactly an easy task. And the FT rolled in and out. So the no-call actually did cost them the game.

I guess I expect them to make an obvious call, especially with the game on the line.
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I agree that it should have been called. I was screaming at the T.V. when Oden shoved Cage. However, if Cage hits his FTs and/or Xavier plays D when OSU gets the rebound then it would have been a moot point.
 
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wbarron said:
In a weird way, me too. They're going to be hungry.
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We know the Vols can hang with them and if I remember correctly, Tennessee didn't play their best the first time around either. I really hope they have another "on" night this Thursday. I'd like to see them handle Ohio State like they did UF the last meeting.
 
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OWB said:
Personally, I'm kind of glad the Vols get another shot at Ohio State but Xavier probably would have been better for us. Then again who knows.
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We would be more likely to look past Xavier...you can't look past the 45 year old, therefore we could be in better shape.
 
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We may not even have to give Oden a prune smoothie...he usually drinks one while watching "Wheel of Fortune" and listening to the mellow tunes of Glenn Miller.
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, every year, there are criticisms of the officiating. Overall, I think they do a pretty good job. Sure, they miss things. But for the most part they are on top of it.
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I'd agree, if my team's big guys were continually allowed to lower their shoulder and bowl over defenders in the paint.
 
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Totally agree with posts.

I can understand a no call on Oden if he was playing the ball or bumped him. THIS WAS NOT THE CASE HIS ARMS WERE FULLY EXTENDED OUTWARD WITH SOME STRONG INTENTIONS. LOOK LIKE WE LOST AND I AM OUTTA HERE FOUL. THAT NEEDS TO BE CALLED BECAUSE HE MADE NO PLAY ON THE BALL.

59 FOULS CALLED IN THE UVA - TN GAME. ENOUGH SAID.

2 MINUTE DELAY TO SORT OUT .2 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK

A REF STANDING IN FULL WITNESS OF CAIN HANGING ON THE RIM THEN COMING OFF THE RIM TO FOUL CHILDRESS

SEVERAL GOAL TENDING MISS CALLS. AND CHARGES VERSUS BLOCKING FOULS PROBABLY A BREAK EVEN.

DO NOT FEEL AS THOUGH THEY WANTED UT TO WIN.
 
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lawgator1 said:
it has always been my impression that they do let the players play in the tournament.
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I agree refs should let "players play" but since when do they allow coaches to play? Check out Ben Howland's ridiculous "defense" against Indiana's inbounds passer (video link below)

http://www.schannen.com/pics/ucla.wmv

I've never seen that type of "on-court" behavior from a coach in the college game. And the refs did nothing. At the very least, Howland should have been reprimanded after the game. I'm really surprised this has not been discussed more in the media.
 
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I swear I thought I hear on MikeandMike this am that they dont call fouls in the las 10 seconds of the game am I right?
 
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