Bruce Pearl is a better basketball coach than Kevin O'Neill

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emainvol said:
Bill Self only had 6 wins one year. Jay Wright and Rick Pitino both had years in which they only won 8 games. Coach K had a year where he only won 9. Lute Olson had years of 10 and 11.

Anybody know what all these guys had in common?
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By his 3rd season, Self won 18 games at Oral Roberts. Bad example, but what would I expect. When did Pitino win only 8 games? Wright won 8 games at Hofstra, and improved a dead school every year up until he turned them into a NCAA team... once again another bad example. Coach K another bad example. Lute Olsen 10 in his first season at Iowa, by his third he had 20 wins. First year at ARizona 11, by his third year 23 wins.

So once again, you are wrong.
 
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Why should it matter what year Self was coaching? You said good coaches don't have 5 win years. Is 6 the magic number?
 
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Wright- 2nd year coaching.
K- worst year is twice as good as O'Neills and he's had a little success along the way
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tvols75 said:
By his 3rd season, Self won 18 games at Oral Roberts. Bad example, but what would I expect. When did Pitino win only 8 games? Wright won 8 games at Hofstra, and improved a dead school every year up until he turned them into a NCAA team... once again another bad example. Coach K another bad example. Lute Olsen 10 in his first season at Iowa, by his third he had 20 wins. First year at ARizona 11, by his third year 23 wins.

So once again, you are wrong.
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Why? He took a team of scrubs to the NIT at UT, did the same thing at Northwestern twice (name me some other coaches with success there, good luck finding many with more success than KO), he did well before Arizona screwed him, did well at Marquette, and has taken an absolutely decimated USC program to the tourney in his second year.
 
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HendersonVol said:
Wright- 2nd year coaching.
K- worst year is twice as good as O'Neills and he's had a little success along the way
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Again, you said good coaches don't have 5 win years. Are you establishing a cutoff point? Is 6, 7 or 8 wins a big accomplishment to you?
 
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emainvol said:
Why should it matter what year Self was coaching? You said good coaches don't have 5 win years. Is 6 the magic number?
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So instead of showing his head to head wins against Pearl, what else are you basing your decision that he is better than Pearl on?

NBA coach? Isaiah Thomas and Calipari have been NBA head coaches. And go look at who Toronto has hired there.

One Sweet 16?

207-205?
 
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emainvol said:
Why? He took a team of scrubs to the NIT at UT, did the same thing at Northwestern twice (name me some other coaches with success there, good luck finding many with more success than KO), he did well before Arizona screwed him, did well at Marquette, and has taken an absolutely decimated USC program to the tourney in his second year.
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Well at Arizona=19-14 and a first round exit
Well at Marquette=below averse for their history
Well at USC = lucky to get the field expanded to 68

You are bragging about him getting a team to the NIT.
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tvols75 said:
So instead of showing his head to head wins against Pearl, what else are you basing your decision that he is better than Pearl on?

NBA coach? Isaiah Thomas and Calipari have been NBA head coaches. And go look at who Toronto has hired there.

One Sweet 16?

207-205?
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You saying that Calipari isn't a good coach? How many bad college coaches have gone on to NBA jobs?
 
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tvols75 said:
So instead of showing his head to head wins against Pearl, what else are you basing your decision that he is better than Pearl on?

NBA coach? Isaiah Thomas and Calipari have been NBA head coaches. And go look at who Toronto has hired there.

One Sweet 16?

207-205?
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Calipari has never had a 5 win season.
 
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emainvol said:
Again, you said good coaches don't have 5 win years. Are you establishing a cutoff point? Is 6, 7 or 8 wins a big accomplishment to you?
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If he had some other substantial success to offset the massive failure, I would certainly give him the benefit of the doubt.

He's not a newcomer and wasn't when he won 5 games.
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HendersonVol said:
Well at Arizona=19-14 and a first round exit
Well at Marquette=below averse for their history
Well at USC = lucky to get the field expanded to 68

You are bragging about him getting a team to the NIT.
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If you were a Northwestern fan, I am sure you would be bragging about it, too.

See that's the problem, you keep changing your criteria here. So if he takes USC to the Final Four, you going to say he sucks because he couldn't go to the national championship?
 
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emainvol said:
If you were a Northwestern fan, I am sure you would be bragging about it, too.

See that's the problem, you keep changing your criteria here. So if he takes USC to the Final Four, you going to say he sucks because he couldn't go to the national championship?
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No, when he climbs above a .500 career record and has more than 2 tourney wins is when I'll start to consider him as an elite coach.
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emainvol said:
Why? He took a team of scrubs to the NIT at UT, did the same thing at Northwestern twice (name me some other coaches with success there, good luck finding many with more success than KO), he did well before Arizona screwed him, did well at Marquette, and has taken an absolutely decimated USC program to the tourney in his second year.
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Wow, the NIT. I'm impressed that he led us to a 14-15 record with a loss in the NIT first round. Case settled.

Great job at Arizona?

USC, he has done a decent job. But jury is still out.
 
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emainvol said:
You saying that Calipari isn't a good coach? How many bad college coaches have gone on to NBA jobs?
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Calipari isn't an elite coach. He is an amazing recruiter, I will never doubt that. But he has never been called a great tactician.
 
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HendersonVol said:
Well at Arizona=19-14 and a first round exit
Well at Marquette=below averse for their history
Well at USC = lucky to get the field expanded to 68

You are bragging about him getting a team to the NIT.
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His tenure being below average must be why Marquette put him in their Hall of Fame.
 
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