Changes to Chase and points system

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NASCAR has made official the anticipated changes to how drivers are selected for the Chase and to the points system.

The Chase will be comprised of the top ten drivers in points after the 26th race plus the two drivers with the most wins not in the top ten. They must be in the top twenty. If one or two winning drivers are not available, the next one or two in points go in.

The points system to be used in 2011 will award 43 points to the winner and drop one point per position with 43rd place receiving one point. Bonus points for leading a lap are one and leading the most laps one. Winning the race pays a bonus of three points.
 
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I'm still not sure what they hope to accomplish by doing this. It's not the points that make people turn the channel or not buy the over priced tickets, its the god awful product they are putting on the track.
 
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it's basically the same thing, on a smaller scale.

i don't know why they so vehemently refuse to reward drivers for winning the race. it makes it SO hard to watch races at Pocono or New Hampshire or Michigan or Chicago...

at least they pretty much eliminated any shot Dale Jr. has to make the Chase.
 
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volnSC said:
I'm still not sure what they hope to accomplish by doing this. It's not the points that make people turn the channel or not buy the over priced tickets, its the god awful product they are putting on the track.
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This.
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Yep, not a big enough reward for winning and now they will be punished more for having a bad race. I don't se where it's gonna make racing any better.
If a guy finished 43rd then he got 40 pts compared to 195 for winning and leading the most laps so winner got 5 times as many pts. Now if the winner leads the most laps he will get 48 times the points. It will make a bad day hurt alot worse.
 
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volnSC said:
I'm still not sure what they hope to accomplish by doing this. It's not the points that make people turn the channel or not buy the over priced tickets, its the god awful product they are putting on the track.
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I couldn't agree more. Whatever happened to the NASCAR of my youth???:sad:
 
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Wonder what would happen if some dirt track legend got in a car nowadays, drove it like he stole it, won races, blew races, kissed the Sprint girls, cussed in every damn interview, always fought the big boys in the Nascar corporate booth, refused to be anything but who he is, was unrepentant, in general was just a Rebel raising hell and having fun going fast???

That is who I want to see. My God, you want to see that on the edge type of man in a car, not some kid who looks like he is trying to sell you insurance straight outta college. Nascar wouldn't even allow it. Anger management classes and point deductions would be levied. Too bad, because all the fans want a few drivers at least to either be for or against. A villian makes for good TV.

Now they pay the dues taking classes, learning how to fit their sponsors name in as much as humanly possible in every interview.

Excuse the sound off, Mr. Broyles. :clapping: It is the John Lee Hooker and Maker's talking. :yes:

Nascar should be dangerous......

MHO.
 
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Don't know why you are apologizing to me, I'm just the messenger. I agree with you and for the most part with the others. I like the change to the Chase. If it had been in place last year Jamie McMurray and one other driver with a win (Montoya?) would have been in over two non-winners. This does reward winning.

The winner point bonus of 3 is actually a larger bonus than before percentage wise.
 
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VOLnVEGAS said:
Wonder what would happen if some dirt track legend got in a car nowadays, drove it like he stole it, won races, blew races, kissed the Sprint girls, cussed in every damn interview, always fought the big boys in the Nascar corporate booth, refused to be anything but who he is, was unrepentant, in general was just a Rebel raising hell and having fun going fast???

That is who I want to see. My God, you want to see that on the edge type of man in a car, not some kid who looks like he is trying to sell you insurance straight outta college. Nascar wouldn't even allow it. Anger management classes and point deductions would be levied. Too bad, because all the fans want a few drivers at least to either be for or against. A villian makes for good TV.

Now they pay the dues taking classes, learning how to fit their sponsors name in as much as humanly possible in every interview.

Excuse the sound off, Mr. Broyles. :clapping: It is the John Lee Hooker and Maker's talking. :yes:

Nascar should be dangerous......

MHO.
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Is there a dirt track legend that could do this? Anybody?
 
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If Junior were racing today, would he be as successful as he was? Would he still be the Junior of old, or would he be groomed into the sponsor's expected image like the drivers of today? Wonder how many "Juniors" are hidden by the cloak of being pc and fitting that image?
 
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rbroyles said:
If Junior were racing today, would he be as successful as he was? Would he still be the Junior of old, or would he be groomed into the sponsor's expected image like the drivers of today? Wonder how many "Juniors" are hidden by the cloak of being pc and fitting that image?
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That's most of it. The sponsor funding needed to keep a team going needs the resources of a national corp, Image and "marketability" seem to trump talent as far as bringing in new cup talent.
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I find it ironic that the max number of points a driver can get is 48...
 
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volnSC said:
I'm still not sure what they hope to accomplish by doing this. It's not the points that make people turn the channel or not buy the over priced tickets, its the god awful product they are putting on the track.
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+1. NASCAR has sucked outside of Daytona and a couple other tracks for a few years now.
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From a guy who used to watch NASCAR in the 80s and 90s and grew bored with it -

I'm still not watching. Actually put some racing out there and I might do it. Until France and company decides to make it racing again and not try to market to every person in the world, it's only going to get worse and worse.
 
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Burhead said:
I find it ironic that the max number of points a driver can get is 48...
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I have a buddy that swears that Jimmie has been so dominate at Charlotte because it's named Lowe's Motor Speedway and Nascar let's them cheat. He also claimed that Stewart won the Pontiac Excitement 400 at Richmond back in 2001 and 2002 for the same reason because he drove a pontiac...
 
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tigervol9802 said:
From a guy who used to watch NASCAR in the 80s and 90s and grew bored with it -

I'm still not watching. Actually put some racing out there and I might do it. Until France and company decides to make it racing again and not try to market to every person in the world, it's only going to get worse and worse.
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Same here. I'm just not as "die-hard" as I use to be. Just something about racing that keeps me coming back.
 
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jhen713 said:
I have a buddy that swears that Jimmie has been so dominate at Charlotte because it's named Lowe's Motor Speedway and Nascar let's them cheat. He also claimed that Stewart won the Pontiac Excitement 400 at Richmond back in 2001 and 2002 for the same reason because he drove a pontiac...
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I have a buddy that claims the Lunar landing was video taped in a hanger at area 51.
 
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Burhead said:
I find it ironic that the max number of points a driver can get is 48...
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If the new 2011 point system were used in 2010, the Sprint Cup Champ would have been................(Drum Roll)........................Jimmie Johnson.
 
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rbroyles said:
If the new 2011 point system were used in 2010, the Sprint Cup Champ would have been................(Drum Roll)........................Jimmie Johnson.
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Conspiracy! I saw Brian France talking to the shooter on the grassy knoll too! :whistling:
 
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Burhead said:
Conspiracy! I saw Brian France talking to the shooter on the grassy knoll too! :whistling:
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My mom has a pic of him and Elvis dring a beer at a bar down in Jamica back in 1985.:whistling:
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You ask about a dirt track legend.........

Scott Bloomquist fits the bill nicely as a villan. He isn't PC and doesn't care to speak his mind. The said thing about it is that Bloomquist had a REAL shot at being in Cup in the early 90s. He was running well in all of his ARCA starts before he got busted for drugs and everything crashed down.

I've enjoyed being able to watch him as a dirt fan over the years though. No one can get fans more heated than Black Sunshine. You either love the guy or absolutely hate the guy - he would be polarizing in NASCAR. Of course, with him nearing 50 years old now, this will never happen.
 
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