So much for global warming.

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MWR said:
I don't know if this info is true or not, but if it is it makes ole Al look bad.

I heard on some talk show that his electric bill at his house was around $3,000.00 a month. That's more electricty in one month than I use in 2 years.

And he's telling me I need to cut back to slow global warming?

Of course, that info may not be true, but I wonder how much people of his caliber do as they tell us to do.
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It is safe to say he is hypocritical on this stuff.
 
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MG1968 said:
No rise of atmospheric CO2 fraction in past 150 years



also,

CO2 Science
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MG - I didn't read the second link (yet), but I am familiar with the 1st one so I can comment on it. You have misinterpreted their finding. It is not saying that atmospheric concentration of CO2 isn't rising. In fact, it is - and that is indisputable. What the study found is that the ratio of the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere to the concentration of CO2 in the ocean hasn't changed over the last 150 years.

This point shouldn't be diminished, though. It could be significant. One factor in predicting future rises on CO2 is taking predicted emissions and subtracting off the rate of uptake by natural systems (such as the ocean). While there are reasons to suspect that this uptake by the ocean will be slow, this study suggests that it could be much faster that expected (as demonstrated by the fraction in the atmosphere is not increasing as might be expected if the uptake were very slow). This could mean that it would take longer to reach a given atmospheric concentration, like 600 ppm, than originally expected.

The significance of the study is debatable, but it could be meaningful. What it certainly doesn't mean is that CO2 concentration in the atmosphere isn't increasing.
 
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#53
I do know that the Greenland Ice sheet is receding as well as many of the worlds glaciers. The Hubbard glacier, and I may not be exact, has receded almost 4 miles in the last 10 years. Whether or not its caused by man, it is something we should think about.
 
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CountVolcula said:
I do know that the Greenland Ice sheet is receding as well as many of the worlds glaciers. The Hubbard glacier, and I may not be exact, has receded almost 4 miles in the last 10 years. Whether or not its caused by man, it is something we should think about.
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It is something to think about but I think that glaciers have to be one of the toughest proxies for climate change - particularly if we are talking about *temperature* changes. Their retreat/advance is driven by snowfall, temperature, etc....it could be 20 degrees colder on average and if snowfall decreased (drier climate, let's say) the glaciers would still retreat.

I'm not saying that global warming can't affect glaciers because it clearly can...just that it is a tough proxy.

I saw the Hubbard glacier a few years ago...amazing. I hope it doesn't go too far! :)
 
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#55
A Bristol University scientist claims he knows why climate change is not happening as quickly as some predictions.

Dr Wolfgang Knorr has found that natural 'sinks' like oceans and forests have absorbed the same percentage of CO2, despite man-made emissions shooting up to 35bn tonnes a year.

His research suggests the earth may be able to absorb more carbon than previously thought, and may explain why climate change is happening more slowly than in some predictions.

He says his research is "good news" for the current Copenhagen climate talks, but warns they must still produce an agreement to reduce carbon emissions.

And Dr Knorr denies his research backs up people who deny the reality of climate change. He told Original 106.5: "That would be a very superficial interpretation of these results. Half of the CO2 we emit stays in the atmosphere and that's enough to cause global warming.

"Also, this research is only based on the past. We are pushing the system to its limits and it might break at some stage, as the model suggests. But it hasn't happened yet. I would not experiment with the climate system."
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Original 106.5
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
The whole global warming BS revolves around money. It's a political science, not one that will benefit humanity.
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BINGO, we have a winner. :clapping:

IPorange said:
What drives temperatures going up and down?
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The thermostat??

TennTradition said:
Engineers do research...
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It's all about the angle of the dangle and the wobble of the bobble!

Pretty simple stuff really.

lawgator1 said:
You guys misunderstand me. I am not saying that there is no legitimate debate to be had about global warming. There is plenty of room to debate the extent to which it is going on, the extent to which, if it is, its man made or caused by industry, and the extent to which the planet self-corrects for it.

My point is simply that anyone who walks outside in the morning to go to work or school, shivers, and runs off and proclaims "It is cold today, therefore there is no global warming" should be summarily executed for stupidity.

Drudge is a great example. Constantly runs stories about record cold here and there. As though a year or two's worth of anecdotal stories is a valid basis for reaching any conclusion.
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No we understand you just fine, it's just that you struggle so hard to make sense and never do that we find you entertaining enough to encourage you to continue.

What would life be like without comic relief?? :eek:k:

OrangeEmpire said:
Colder than a witches titty Tradition!
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But not nearly as cold as Hitlary's heart though.
 
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#57
lawgator1 said:
Which is ridonculous.
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Speaking of ridonculous, do you have a mirror at your house?? Do you ever use it?

If you ever use, do you think of the word 'ridonculous' when you see the image there??

Just wondering, nothing personal. :)
 
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#61
My dogs water buckets are frozen solid! Thats how I judge if its cold outside!
 
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Oldvol75 said:
I have already taken care of them. They are all warm and cozy!1
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I live about 150 miles north and a bit west of you.

About an inch of snow here, quiet until a few minutes ago when an arctic clipper came through headed south that sounded about like the Wabash Cannonball, blew all the snow off the road.

Single digits predicted for weekend lows. Brrr.
 
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gsvol said:
I live about 150 miles north and a bit west of you.

About an inch of snow here, quiet until a few minutes ago when an arctic clipper came through headed south that sounded about like the Wabash Cannonball, blew all the snow off the road.

Single digits predicted for weekend lows. Brrr.
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Where would that be?
 
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BeecherVol said:
Where would that be?
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Know where Grinder's Switch is??

I lived in Scottsboro from aged 10 to 19, I pretty well know my way around Cheatham County. :)

I'm about to wrap things up and get ready for the Bama/Tehas battle, may be off here for a day or three, should give the people who say I'm ruining the board time to get their 2 cents worth in.

(Not to say that isn't an inflated value or their opinions.) :angel:
 
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gsvol said:
Know where Grinder's Switch is??

I lived in Scottsboro from aged 10 to 19, I pretty well know my way around Cheatham County. :)

I'm about to wrap things up and get ready for the Bama/Tehas battle, may be off here for a day or three, should give the people who say I'm ruining the board time to get their 2 cents worth in.

(Not to say that isn't an inflated value or their opinions.) :angel:
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TennTradition said:
My grandmother was born in Scottsboro....
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Interesting. Im from Joelton, just to the north of Scottsboro. Right on the Cheatham, Davidson line.

Ah, Hickman Co., done some land surveying down er before.
 
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TennTradition said:
My grandmother was born in Scottsboro....
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Tennessee??

If so what was/is her name, I'd probably know her or at least her family.

BeecherVol said:
Interesting. Im from Joelton, just to the north of Scottsboro. Right on the Cheatham, Davidson line.

Ah, Hickman Co., done some land surveying down er before.
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I went to Joelton elementary my first four years of schooling.

Mrs. Murphy was my fist grade teacher.

I'm originally from Crocker Springs, ( a little ghost town) and retired in Primm Springs, (another little ghost town),
the Holy Ghost has sort of been the story of my life.

I know several people who live in your neighborhood, a nice young man we call "Jimmy the Ear' probably lives within two miles of your house.

I've done some surveying down here too, ever heard of Steve McClanahan?
 
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GS - you might not, she moved back to the Cumberland plateau when she was in her teens. Her maiden name was Smith...a pretty common name! Her dad was Andrew Jackson Smith, but he died in about 1930 (not sure, that is a rough estimate).
 
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gsvol said:
Tennessee??

If so what was/is her name, I'd probably know her or at least her family.



I went to Joelton elementary my first four years of schooling.

Mrs. Murphy was my fist grade teacher.

I'm originally from Crocker Springs, ( a little ghost town) and retired in Primm Springs, (another little ghost town),
the Holy Ghost has sort of been the story of my life.

I know several people who live in your neighborhood, a nice young man we call "Jimmy the Ear' probably lives within two miles of your house.

I've done some surveying down here too, ever heard of Steve McClanahan?
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TennTradition said:
GS - you might not, she moved back to the Cumberland plateau when she was in her teens. Her maiden name was Smith...a pretty common name! Her dad was Andrew Jackson Smith, but he died in about 1930 (not sure, that is a rough estimate).
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Keep on discussing this and you two may discover you are related. :)
 
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