Tennessee vs. Michigan

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Don't want to count the chickens before the eggs have hatched but I dislike Michigan and I find it funny that Tennessee is 4-4 in Kiffin's first season while Rich Rod is 5-5 in his second season. Feels good knowing that Tennessee didn't make a mistake hiring a coach that would set the team back a couple more years. That isn't set in stone but I do like what I see. Better than Rich Rod and Weis. Speaking of which, I really hope Notre Dame loses today. I don't like them either.
 
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Liked seeing MI lose, and ND trailing Navy at off
Really would have liked to see Navy hit that FG to end the half
 
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I'm not a ND fan either really, but you do have to admit that they have a great tradition. I mean even after (how many now?) mediocre seasons in a row they STILL have an NBC TV contract.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I'm not a ND fan either really, but you do have to admit that they have a great tradition. I mean even after (how many now?) mediocre seasons in a row they STILL have an NBC TV contract.
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They do have a great tradition. That tradition and contract is part of the reason I don't like them though. Random people all over the country like them.

Willingham and Weis haven't helped changing my opinion of ND either. I don't like either one.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
They do have a great tradition. That tradition and contract is part of the reason I don't like them though. Random people all over the country like them.

Willingham and Weis haven't helped changing my opinion of ND either. I don't like either one.
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Being a non-fan of ND, I would think you would be ecstatic at them having those two. They have raised mediocrity at ND to an art form. BTW.. I agree with you for the most part.
 
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Michigan will be fine if they give Rich Rod time. As bad as they are choking now, the team is far better than last year.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Being a non-fan of ND, I would think you would be ecstatic at them having those two. They have raised mediocrity at ND to an art form. BTW.. I agree with you for the most part.
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Oh yeah, lol. I am happy they coach there because I like seeing Notre Dame lose. I just might not dislike ND so much if they actually got a coach that I liked prior to going to Notre Dame. If they got someone like Jon Gruden or Chris Peterson I still wouldn't like Notre Dame but I could see myself cheering for them as coaches to do well.
 
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The fact that ND is an independant bothers me the most. They should be in a conference.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Michigan will be fine if they give Rich Rod time. As bad as they are choking now, the team is far better than last year.
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Their offense looks better anyways. There defense is pretty crappy though.

W 31-7
W 38-34
W 45-17
W 36-33
L 26-20 OT
L 30-28
W 63-6
L 35-10
L 38-13
L 38-36

Giving up 30 or more in 6 of 10 games is icky. :p
 
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Rich Rod started slow at WVU, and when he went to Michigan the entire offense bailed on him. If Michigan gives him time, they will be fine. I could see them panicking and making a bad decision. It would help if he can get that 1 more win.
 
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tim said:
The fact that ND is an independant bothers me the most. They should be in a conference.
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ABSOLUTELY! Maybe if the Middies hold on and win they will start looking for one. I suggest the Big 10 where they still wouldn't have to compete for a conference championship.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Michigan will be fine if they give Rich Rod time. As bad as they are choking now, the team is far better than last year.
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1. I think Rod will succeed in Michigan given time.

2. That program should serve as exhibit A as to why UT chose not to hire a "spread" coach. The transition can be very painful.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Rich Rod started slow at WVU, and when he went to Michigan the entire offense bailed on him. If Michigan gives him time, they will be fine. I could see them panicking and making a bad decision. It would help if he can get that 1 more win.
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I kind of like what he does on offense. Would help if he had a quarterback with a little more speed than Forcier. Forcier runs the offense nicely but he may fair a little better being more of a passer. The offense isn't the problem in my mind because they score plenty. Rich Rod hasn't been known for his defense though and he will have to get a new defensive coordinator to fix it. That defense is jacked up. May end up being his downfall if he doesn't change something.
 
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vol_in_il said:
Can't afford to give up the weak schedule they get, and the NBC money
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The contract more than anything. I don't know what would be worse... losing all of that money or losing all of that exposure. That contract helps them in a big way. The weak schedule... they don't take advantage of it anyways heh. It could turn into a pretty tough schedule with the way some of their regulars have improved. USC and Michigan. Do they play Stanford and Michigan State every year or just a lot? Harbaugh is turning Stanford around. Then Navy with their offense appears that they can give Notre Dame a good fight for years to come. Today has actually been more about their defense though. Notre Dame's schedule this year is probably better than anyone's schedule in the Big 10. :p
 
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cotton said:
1. I think Rod will succeed in Michigan given time.

2. That program should serve as exhibit A as to why UT chose not to hire a "spread" coach. The transition can be very painful.
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I definitely prefer our hire.
 
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From the outside it may seem like Michigan fans are being hard on Rich Rod but Michigan has always been a power house and it's probably not easy seeing your new coach be 5-5 in his second season when you're used to winning 10 games. It also doesn't help that Michigan is at the bottom of the Big 10 in the standings. Tied 1-5 with Indiana. They are 5-5 overall though while Indiana is 4-6. Wouldn't be easy to swallow looking at it on paper.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I definitely prefer our hire.
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Yep.

The real test, though, is yet to come. I got roasted earlier in the season for saying this about Kiffin, but neither coach was hired to win immediately. They were hired to, over the course of a recruiting class or so, bring their respective programs back up to the top of the conferences.

A better test would be to judge where the programs are in, say, 2012. At this point, though, I like what I am seeing.
 
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Very true. The Big 10 needs Michigan to be good. The conference has always been better that way. If Rich Rod has time, he'll build Michigan up like he built WVU, except he can accomplish more at Michigan. The fans just have to put up with Ohio State's tuants for a little more time.
 
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cotton said:
Yep.

The real test, though, is yet to come. I got roasted earlier in the season for saying this about Kiffin, but neither coach was hired to win immediately. They were hired to, over the course of a recruiting class or so, bring their respective programs back up to the top of the conferences.

A better test would be to judge where the programs are in, say, 2012. At this point, though, I like what I am seeing.
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100% right about rebuilding through recruiting. I like Tennessee's future more than I like Michigan's future. With Tennessee's recruiting and coaching staff, I like their future more than just about anyone's in the nation.
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing MI lose every game
Everytime I think about Woodson, winning the Heisman it chaps my A**
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rich Rod hasn't exactly gotten a lot of his players drafted right?
 
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