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BernardKingGOAT said:
The Strait of Hormuz is closed for one. It was open free and clear before Trump acted impulsively. That's had a negative impact on the entire world. All I have stated are facts. All you have stated are the things Trump and his administration have stated.
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The world has paid a "Strait Tax" for decades. Insurance on shipping through there has been high because of Iran, it is considered a high risk zone. After that's fixed it will lower the price of oil and gas world wide.
 
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hog88 said:
LOL

No, they're not the same ones.
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you sure about that? do you know what General Dan Caine has been up to?

he is the guy out of the CIA, and the "Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment"? the one who was at the white house in 2005, and ran with homeland security back then?

yeah, you are right. he is nothing like those guys. no reason whatsoever to question his interest in a forever war.


I am sure you haven't looked into when he joined the staff and when we first bombed Iran.
 
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utvolpj said:
Trump kinda made everything fair game with his unhinged threats. It's why they shouldn't let gramps dictate foreign policy from the toilet
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How long has Trump been President? I must have missed the first forty years. Did you voice your opposition when every President since Reagan said Iran was a major problem and threat? Did you say they were lying?
 
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rikberry31 said:
How long has Trump been President? I must have missed the first forty years. Did you voice your opposition when every President since Reagan said Iran was a major problem and threat? Did you say they were lying?
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My stance of avoiding war with countries that didn't directly attack us is consistent. Also consistent with the belief we shouldn't be dragged into war due to the actions of other countries
 
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rikberry31 said:
They are taking a bath on EV since as demand has dropped significantly around 25%.
Gas was a dollar more a gallon than it is now in the Biden administration and the economy was in much worse shape. Back then the libs said high gas prices were good and would accelerate the Green New Scam implementation.
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1- I work for a car manufacturer and they’re not down 25%. Maybe 15-17 and the higher gas prices go the more that number will drop.
2- the highest average under Biden was 4.64. Today it’s 4.03. Is that a dollar higher?
 
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sonofUT62 said:
1- I work for a car manufacturer and they’re not down 25%. Maybe 15-17 and the higher gas prices go the more that number will drop.
2- the highest average under Biden was 4.64. Today it’s 4.03.
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Gas got to over $5 a gallon in 2022 and it was about $4.50 for months.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Gas got to over $5 a gallon in 2022 and it was about $4.50 for months.
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The highest average statewide was 4.64. I lived in JC for the entirety of the Biden administration and never once paid north of 4.49. If it got to 5 bucks where you live then it was 4 dollars somewhere else. Also I cursed Biden daily because it was a completely self inflicted wound. Just like this.
 
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rikberry31 said:
The world has paid a "Strait Tax" for decades. Insurance on shipping through there has been high because of Iran, it is considered a high risk zone. After that's fixed it will lower the price of oil and gas world wide.
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I hope it gets "fixed". It's nowhere near "fixed" now. May take a Rubio administration to "fix" it.
 
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MontyPython said:
Which Shaw we talking about here... Robert? He was awesome as Quint.

As for the rest of your non-response, still waiting to hear how any of my post was misleading or incorrect.

Guess I'll be waiting awhile. 😆
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I already explained it. Keep building up those straw men and knocking em down, and acting like you’ve accomplished something.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Think *real* hard about the first part of your post and contrast it with the narrative when it comes to why we're over there.

It's maaaagic!
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Don’t have to think hard. Iran stopped letting audits happen and was enriching uranium for one purpose. They are a terrorist regime with a history of attacks and 1000s of deaths, including US citizens and military. I realize you don’t care about anybody else, military bases or civilians of other countries. That’s one of the many differences between you and me.
You woulda let Hitler terrorize the world until we all spoke German.
 
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Skooter said:
Don’t have to think hard. Iran stopped letting audits happen and was enriching uranium for one purpose. They are a terrorist regime with a history of attacks and 1000s of deaths, including US citizens and military. I realize you don’t care about anybody else, military bases or civilians of other countries. That’s one of the many differences between you and me.
You woulda let Hitler terrorize the world until we all spoke German.
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That's why I think there is almost no room for Trump to back down without complete abandoning of all enrichment activity. Anything less leaves the door open for people to say he fell short. And having come this far, that is simply not an.option.
 
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Skooter said:
Don’t have to think hard. Iran stopped letting audits happen and was enriching uranium for one purpose. They are a terrorist regime with a history of attacks and 1000s of deaths, including US citizens and military. I realize you don’t care about anybody else, military bases or civilians of other countries. That’s one of the many differences between you and me.
You woulda let Hitler terrorize the world until we all spoke German.
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You would have let the US govt take away all your rights and standards of living in the early 2000's.

I am happy we are not the same. ****in' world police nonsense. Spare me.

What's funny is that you're regurgitating the talking points of someone who you're still too cowardly to just admit you support, and who actively toys with the idea of wiping an entire civilization off the the face of the earth. Acting like your stance is one that cares about other countries; civilians is the caliber of take that would only be believable if you were hand feeding it to a SPED class.
 
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MontyPython said:
Which Shaw we talking about here... Robert? He was awesome as Quint.

As for the rest of your non-response, still waiting to hear how any of my post was misleading or incorrect.

Guess I'll be waiting awhile. 😆
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“here lies the body of Annabel Lee. Died at the age of 103. For 15 years she kept her virginity. That’s about a record for this vicinity”
 
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utvolpj said:
Not really if you apply the definition honestly
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When a US president kills 1000s US citizens and near daily hangings for those who speak up against them and this politics site is down to a few as the rest are dead, holla back.
Oh nm you won’t be able to.
 
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LouderVol said:
you sure about that? do you know what General Dan Caine has been up to?

he is the guy out of the CIA, and the "Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment"? the one who was at the white house in 2005, and ran with homeland security back then?

yeah, you are right. he is nothing like those guys. no reason whatsoever to question his interest in a forever war.


I am sure you haven't looked into when he joined the staff and when we first bombed Iran.
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I haven't looked but I'd wager a big sum of money that the generals dealing with Iran today are not the same generals from over 20 years ago. That would mean they are in their 70s if it were the same generals.
 
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utvolpj said:
My stance of avoiding war with countries that didn't directly attack us is consistent. Also consistent with the belief we shouldn't be dragged into war due to the actions of other countries
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So you would have allowed Soviet missiles to be delivered to Cuba in 1962. Gotta disagree with you there. That's a little too libertarian for me
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You would have let the US govt take away all your rights and standards of living in the early 2000's.

I am happy we are not the same. ****in' world police nonsense. Spare me.

What's funny is that you're regurgitating the talking points of someone who you're still too cowardly to just admit you support, and who actively toys with the idea of wiping an entire civilization off the the face of the earth. Acting like your stance is one that cares about other countries; civilians is the caliber of take that would only be believable if you were hand feeding it to a SPED class.
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-no I wouldnt
-and like I said, not close to the same thank goodness. Go spare yourself. You don’t care unless a threat is bearing down on your single wide.
-I haven’t said anything about wanting to wipe an entire civilization off the earth, nor have I ever voted for Trump. Those are facts, liar boy.
-i do support shutting up the mentally ill pains in the ass on both ends, and that includes you as lib fatigue set in while back. You are one of them and too dumb to realize you are.
 
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Skooter said:
When a US president kills 1000s US citizens and near daily hangings for those who speak up against them and this politics site is down to a few as the rest are dead, holla back.
Oh nm you won’t be able to.
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US presidents use missiles worldwide to kill millions. Now, apply the definition honestly
 
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Skooter said:
-no I wouldnt
-and like I said, not close to the same thank goodness. Go spare yourself. You don’t care unless a threat is bearing down on your single wide.
-I haven’t said anything about wanting to wipe an entire civilization off the earth, nor have I ever voted for Trump. Those are facts, liar boy.
-i do support shutting up the mentally ill pains in the ass on both ends, and that includes you as lib fatigue set in while back. You are one of them and too dumb to realize you are.
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"no I wouldn't" lol.

Weak ass scat.
 
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