Nullification

[FortSanders]

Nullification is the State's Rights Doctrine that holds a state can nullify federal laws it disagrees with. Gov. Tim Waltz is using the same language as Francis Pickens, the Governor of South Carolina in 1861.

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz worries that the violence in his state could produce a national rupture. “I mean, is this a Fort Sumter?” he mused today in an interview in his office at the state capitol....The island fortification near Charleston, South Carolina, is where Confederate forces fired the first shots of the Civil War in 1861. Now it’s federal forces that are risking a breach. “It’s a physical assault,” Walz told me. “It’s an armed force that’s assaulting, that’s killing my constituents, my citizens.”

Tim Walz Fears a Fort Sumter Moment in Minneapolis

The Minnesota governor warns of a national unraveling.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[VAVol85]

Timmy is such a poser. One day he is an LGBTQ activist putting tampons in the men's room; the next day he is any everyman Coach Walz; then he is a soldier at least until there is a prospect for shooting; then he is a tough guy wanting to throw hands with Trump or Vance; now apparently he is Jefferson Davis. In reality, the man is a national joke that just keeps getting worse.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That man is playing with fire.

 

[FortSanders]

Democrats are playing with some highly combustible materials in deploying the rhetoric and posture of state insurrection against federal authority. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey have been the chief arsonists.

Read a History Book, Tim Walz | National Review

If the governor knew his history, he’d see clearly that he’s adopting the rhetoric and posture of the S.C. governor who precipitated the crisis of secession.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[FortSanders]

States and localities cannot nullify Federal law. The South lost that argument at the point of a bayonet.

 

[Ritzwatch]

I’ve been telling y’all that these demonstrators are the New Confederacy.

 

[FortSanders]

Under settled federal jurisprudence, the power to make and enforce immigration law has been delegated to the government of the United States. Period. The states can no more nullify federal immigration law within their territories than nullify federal tax, firearms, environmental, and other law of which progressives approve and demand vigorous enforcement (which they unfailingly get when Democrats are in the White House).

Minnesota’s Ridiculous Lawsuit to Bar Federal Immigration Enforcement | National Review

States have no power to nullify federal law on a federal function, and courts have no power to dictate enforcement.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[FortSanders]

If Lincoln was right to call in the troops to enforce federal law in South Carolina, Trump would be right to call in the troops to enforce federal law in Minnesota.

This is nothing more than insurrection, which must be crushed....

 

[GordonC]

I mean nullification is not exactly secession, but whatever

 

[KB5252]

It's dangerous rhetoric, but I've seen the discord escalate and thought the states would be unbound sooner or later.

Politicians on both sides of the spectrum haven't been playing with fire for years now, a fire is so but inevitable.

 

[hog88]

I’m all for it.

 

[tvolsfan]

Yawn

 

[InVOLuntary]

That man is playing with fire.

He's the true threat to democracy. He's the true insurrectionist. The democrats are always doing what they accuse others of.

 

[EasternVol]

States and localities cannot nullify Federal law. The South lost that argument at the point of a bayonet.

But were they right or wrong?

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I dont see anything wrong with nullification.

 

[MontyPython]

Timmy is such a poser. One day he is an LGBTQ activist putting tampons in the men's room; the next day he is any everyman Coach Walz; then he is a soldier at least until there is a prospect for shooting; then he is a tough guy wanting to throw hands with Trump or Vance; now apparently he is Jefferson Davis. In reality, the man is a national joke that just keeps getting worse.

 

[VAVol85]

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Walz…a dumba$$’s idea of a leader.

P.s. how did my critique of Walz imply endorsement of Trump?

 

[Rickyvol77]

But were they right or wrong?

Honestly Constitutionally, South Carolina or any state had the freedom to secede from the Union if they chose to. The packed Supreme Court made that not the case but legally, it should be ok

 

[Orange_Crush]

If Lincoln was right to call in the troops to enforce federal law in South Carolina, Trump would be right to call in the troops to enforce federal law in Minnesota.

This is nothing more than insurrection, which must be crushed....

It would probably be helpful and safer if he had already done so. Then we'd have had a group besides ICE, who are obviously under-trained and bordering on incompetent when it comes to things like crowd control, etc. Pretti would likely be alive right now.

 

[Orange_Crush]

It's dangerous rhetoric, but I've seen the discord escalate and thought the states would be unbound sooner or later.

Politicians on both sides of the spectrum haven't been playing with fire for years now, a fire is so but inevitable.

They're using Signal, not discord.

 

[utvolpj]

Under settled federal jurisprudence, the power to make and enforce immigration law has been delegated to the government of the United States. Period. The states can no more nullify federal immigration law within their territories than nullify federal tax, firearms, environmental, and other law of which progressives approve and demand vigorous enforcement (which they unfailingly get when Democrats are in the White House).

drug laws?

 

[LouderVol]

I think what is pissing the MAGA "alphas" off the most is that they are seeing the limp wristed beta liberals actually do what the MAGA crowd has been saying they will do. actually stand up to the feds.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I think what is pissing the MAGA "alphas" off the most is that they are seeing the limp wristed beta liberals actually do what the MAGA crowd has been saying they will do. actually stand up to the feds.

LOL this is a weird take, first of all who cares what MAGAs (or whatever stereotypical picture of you have in your mind what a MAGA alpha is) think; 2nd of all what exactly are these liberals doing that they think is some feat against the government?

Oh no, I'll show you how you aren't going to arrest that illegal criminal, I blow a whistle and kick cars and bully regular people eating in a restaurant because a group chat told me they were ICE...

What heroes

 

[hog88]

I think what is pissing the MAGA "alphas" off the most is that they are seeing the limp wristed beta liberals actually do what the MAGA crowd has been saying they will do. actually stand up to the feds.

I love it. I just hope they keep the passion when the Dems are back in power.

 

[LouderVol]

LOL this is a weird take, first of all who cares what MAGAs (or whatever stereotypical picture of you have in your mind what a MAGA alpha is) think; 2nd of all what exactly are these liberals doing that they think is some feat against the government?

Oh no, I'll show you how you aren't going to arrest that illegal criminal, I blow a whistle and kick cars and bully regular people eating in a restaurant because a group chat told me they were ICE...

What heroes

dude, I was here for Covid, I heard all the macho talk about standing up to the government given the chance, and crickets from the maga crowd. I thought the libs were rioting and tearing down the very pillars of america to the point of being called domestic terrorists for even touching an ICE agent. complete threats to America. they are doing something, and yall are pissed its more than you could muster.

hopefully, yall dried off their spittle when you took your turn on the government ball gag.