S&C Coach Wish List - Who Say You?

#51
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vegasvolfan said:
Hopefully we don’t recruit a bunch of Nancie’s that can’t handle being pushed. Otherwise why are they even playing? I have had the thought that a lot of kids would grow soft because they aren’t hungry for the NFL money after making millions in college. I think that’s why you are starting to see some teams like Bama and Georgia get whipped.
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I think you're on the right track too. Maybe it's not that they can't handle being pushed (though some these days definitely can't) or aren't hungry for the NFL but that most of them know they probably aren't going to make it to the NFL and they want to make as much money as they can while they can. Not saying I like it, but it's not dumb... Why risk getting hurt and miss out on the opportunity to make more money than you might make in decades of working a normal job?
 
#52
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This one is incredibly hard to predict. I almost guarantee it will be nobody on our lists, but somebody very good.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
That’s not a lot of baggage IMO. He’s been one of the best in the business, and S&C has a degree of immediate impact that is unlike any other role.

It’s highly unlikely the guy comes in and just suddenly stops popping pills again. And it’s not like his teams stopped performing.

He’s in his 50’s, founded a recovery institution—odds are statistically low that happens.

So, the risk is low,
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More than a decade of snorting up to 50 pills daily and multiple relapses requiring rehab clinic stays is not a lot of baggage, and is low risk?

The guy doesn’t think he can be effective without screaming all the time, which his physiology apparently can’t take, inducing perpetual migraines which leads to another cycle of pill snorting.

Hell no, man.
 
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NCFisher said:
More than a decade of snorting up to 50 pills daily and multiple relapses requiring rehab clinic stays is not a lot of baggage, and is low risk?

The guy doesn’t think he can be effective without screaming all the time, which his physiology apparently can’t take, inducing perpetual migraines which leads to another cycle of pill snorting.

Hell no, man.
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Cochran is the head coach at West Alabama. Has he been doing what you are saying while there? Cochran is 1000% worth the risk.
 
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NCFisher said:
More than a decade of snorting up to 50 pills daily and multiple relapses requiring rehab clinic stays is not a lot of baggage, and is low risk?

The guy doesn’t think he can be effective without screaming all the time, which his physiology apparently can’t take, inducing perpetual migraines which leads to another cycle of pill snorting.

Hell no, man.
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Where did you see he snorted 50 pills a day?
 
#59
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Heupel's Side Chick said:
I think you're on the right track too. Maybe it's not that they can't handle being pushed (though some these days definitely can't) or aren't hungry for the NFL but that most of them know they probably aren't going to make it to the NFL and they want to make as much money as they can while they can. Not saying I like it, but it's not dumb... Why risk getting hurt and miss out on the opportunity to make more money than you might make in decades of working a normal job?
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I think we are saying two different things. What I am saying is those who can make it, are starting to play softer and for the college money. So kind of what you are saying, but kind of not :)
 
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NCFisher said:
More than a decade of snorting up to 50 pills daily and multiple relapses requiring rehab clinic stays is not a lot of baggage, and is low risk?

The guy doesn’t think he can be effective without screaming all the time, which his physiology apparently can’t take, inducing perpetual migraines which leads to another cycle of pill snorting.

Hell no, man.
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lol wow 50 pills… incredible he is even alive … that’s a level I don’t think I have ever heard of.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Cochran is the head coach at West Alabama. Has he been doing what you are saying while there? Cochran is 1000% worth the risk.
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I know. There’s no way to know unless W. AL is doing random testing with him in the one season he’s been there. What we do know is, at minimum according to himself, he has a demonstrated pattern over 11-12 years of relapsing & destroying himself via addiction, and no one knew. Until his wife found him blue and nonresponsive in their home.

Let’s say the guy is destined to kill himself, somewhere, being one of the best SC coaches there is. If I’m running a program, I don’t want that to be on me. That is, knowing the likelihood, I hired him anyway to use him up. He had a bad year at W.AL and has not proven he can stay clean yet. I wish him the best in pursuit of doing so. CJH can find another person without that weight.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
We need a guy like the one pictured below. The players need to HATE him whenever he walks into the room. They will be in the best shape of their lives when the season starts. In the 16 weeks I was with one of these guys I lost 15 lbs of fat and put on 15 of muscle. My wife walked right by me in the airport because she didn't recognize me.

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I can't like this enough! Would love to go back 40yrs and do it again.
 
#65
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vegasvolfan said:
lol wow 50 pills… incredible he is even alive … that’s a level I don’t think I have ever heard of.
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It’s a mite high, alright.

I was thinking while reading he knows there’s such a thing as a bullhorn and didn’t use it because he’s addicted to his image. Then saw the video confirmation of him saying so.

He doesn’t have demonstrable success without drug addiction, at the elite level. He had a bad year at W.AL following a very good season under prior coach. He’s using a bullhorn. I’d want to see him weather that and regardless of the outcome as HC, stay clean. Seems like a decent guy with a nice family; be good to seem him succeed at sobriety and get another shot in a few years if that’s what’s best for them.
 
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NCFisher said:
It’s a mite high, alright.

I was thinking while reading he knows there’s such a thing as a bullhorn and didn’t use it because he’s addicted to his image. Then saw the video confirmation of him saying so.

He doesn’t have demonstrable success without drug addiction, at the elite level. He had a bad year at W.AL following a very good season under prior coach. He’s using a bullhorn. I’d want to see him weather that and regardless of the outcome as HC, stay clean. Seems like a decent guy with a nice family; be good to seem him succeed at sobriety and get another shot in a few years if that’s what’s best for them.
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He’s been clean since 2021 and it is now 2026. That’s plenty. The way I see it is that If we can’t embrace 5 years of recovery, we don’t deserve him. I have a deep sense of what drives people, and often saying no to people and judgement comes from a need to be in control. Not everyone, but far too many.

Also, I’m not concerned with his win loss record at West Alabama. We wouldn’t be looking at him as a HC, and I’m not about to question his antics as far as using a bullhorn or not—he was one of the best to do it.

I will say if it’s his self image that is steering his approach, he might consider leaning into the fact he isn’t that guy anymore, embrace his battles, have a never give up attitude, and make the doubters wish they hadn’t doubted him.

Players will rally around that.

Fortunately people like you and me aren’t his psychologists, so it’s really not our business what he does and what we would like to see him accomplish personally.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole. As a Judge once said, “a tiger never changes his stripes “. Most addicts who Work high pressure jobs seldom remain clean.
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Sark seems to be doing just fine, but if there is a study on that one… please share.

There was also a judge in Kentucky that would prosecute teens for drug abuse and then use drugs and his position to lure them into sexual favors.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
He’s been clean since 2021 and it is now 2026. That’s plenty. The way I see it is that If we can’t embrace 5 years of recovery, we don’t deserve him. I have a deep sense of what drives people, and often saying no to people and judgement comes from a need to be in control. Not everyone, but far too many.

Also, I’m not concerned with his win loss record at West Alabama. We wouldn’t be looking at him as a HC, and I’m not about to question his antics as far as using a bullhorn or not—he was one of the best to do it.

I will say if it’s his self image that is steering his approach, he might consider leaning into the fact he isn’t that guy anymore, embrace his battles, have a never give up attitude, and make the doubters wish they hadn’t doubted him.

Players will rally around that.

Fortunately people like you and me aren’t his psychologists, so it’s really not our business what he does and what we would like to see him accomplish personally.
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Well, no, he went into rehab AGAIN Feb 2024, so not sober even two years. And even that’s making the assumption he hasn’t relapsed in the interim when even his own family and co-workers didn’t know about his addiction prior.

Yeah I’m not concerned about his HC record either. The guy was a high-functioning, successful addict, who - within a year of going sober for the third/fourth time - is now a HC. Handed a winning record from 2024 that goes south in his first year. He hasn’t had to face professional adversity sober; being whacked on fentanyl worked for him. Now he’s already under scrutiny, and from no one more than himself. The point is how will he handle that? We don‘t have the faintest clue whether “he’s not that guy anymore”; he’s only been back in the racket one year.

It has nothing to do with deserving someone, or rallying around someone we don’t know has/will lapse again, but about a $170M football program, and not running a halfway house. If he can demonstrate sobriety and success, he’ll get another shot - again - if that’s what he and his family want. He may be exactly where he needs to be at this point in time.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
I was wondering why he would have left. They won an NC with him as did Bama and LSU. This is what I found:

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Scott Cochran left the University of Georgia football program due to a severe, undisclosed health crisis that culminated in a struggle with opioid addiction, leading to an overdose in 2020 and subsequent relapses, prompting his official resignation in February 2024 to focus on recovery, though he initially stepped away in 2021 for mental health. He moved to Georgia from Alabama hoping for a fresh start, but his addiction worsened, and he later founded the American Addiction Recovery Association (AARA) to help others.

Personally, I would welcome this man back. You can learn a LOT from people in recovery, and it’s not like he was snorting lines off of hookers. I worked in the opioid addiction recovery space for 4 years, and many people fall into this sort of thing due to injury.

I bet this one would be close to Ainge’s heart.
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As a recovered junkster most people get very inspired by my testimony and it would be very good to have him on board. Dunno why its such a taboo to get out the pit of hell. Players probably would like an egoless dude who is humble and open to being vulnerable, yet gets results.. seems he is a guy you could easily talk to about anything vs some high strung military guy. Athletes generally grow up around people or someone similar to him. Seems like a father figure. No way people on volnation.com dont know someone in his past shoes.
 
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#72
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vegasvolfan said:
That’s not a lot of baggage IMO. He’s been one of the best in the business, and S&C has a degree of immediate impact that is unlike any other role.

It’s highly unlikely the guy comes in and just suddenly stops popping pills again. And it’s not like his teams stopped performing.

He’s in his 50’s, founded a recovery institution—odds are statistically low that happens.

So, the risk is low,
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Odds are 50/50
 
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ATLVols said:
This one is incredibly hard to predict. I almost guarantee it will be nobody on our lists, but somebody very good.
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Yeah, like Heupel's player evals? And his staff choices? Meh, let Knowles make the hire.
 
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