Playoff Blowouts - Garbage games

#30
#30
I lived in New Orleans in '98 when Tulane went 11-0. They easily beat BYU in the Liberty Bowl. They deserved a tougher opponent.

There have been rumblings about a G5/G6 championship.....it works for FCS, Div II, and Div III.
 
#31
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woodpusher said:
I lived in New Orleans in '98 when Tulane went 11-0. They easily beat BYU in the Liberty Bowl. They deserved a tougher opponent.

There have been rumblings about a G5/G6 championship.....it works for FCS, Div II, and Div III.
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They were 11-0 because just as with the case of all the G5 "elite teams" over the years (Boise St, Marshall, James Madison, Fresno St, Hawaii, etc), they DIDN'T PLAY ANYONE....

having a 12-1 or 11-0 record doesn't matter when literally 30-40 teams would have the same record

1998-Tulane (CUSA)​
9/5​
@*Cincinnati (2-9)W
52​
34​
9/12​
@Southern Methodist (5-7)W
31​
21​
9/26​
vs.Navy (3-8)W
42​
24​
10/3​
vs.*Southern Mississippi (7-5)W
21​
7​
10/17​
vs.*Louisville (7-5)W
28​
22​
10/24​
@Rutgers (5-6)W
52​
24​
10/31​
vs.Louisiana (2-9)W
72​
20​
11/7​
@*Memphis (2-9)W
41​
31​
11/14​
@*Army (3-8)W
49​
35​
11/21​
vs.*Houston (3-8)W
48​
20​
11/26​
vs.Louisiana Tech (6-6)W
63​
30​
12/31​
vs.Brigham Young (9-5)W
41​
27​
@ Memphis, TNLiberty Bowl
12-0-0​
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#33
#33
knoxvol52 said:
Go look at how many blowouts there was during the 4 team CFP playoffs...and there wasn't any Group of 5 teams in those... People just want to complain...


Spoiler alert: out of 20 semifinal games 13 were blowouts by the average of 24 points...

The average margin of victory in CFP championship games during 4 team playoff was 20 points... So yes it's all about the group of 5 team being in...🤦
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True. Tennessee lost by 25 last year.
 
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#34
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dobre_shunka said:
If either JMU or Tulare weren't in the playoff, then Notre Dame would've been. In my opinion, it was well worth watching a bad football game or two to get to watch the meltdown from South Bend over the past 2 weeks
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That’s the positive to two bad games. Notre Dame, Vandy, and Texas get to stay home and complain.
 
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#37
#37
The complaining and screeching is funny. You could select 24 teams and people will complain about the last 4.

I got news for you. Blowouts exist.

Tennessee got in last year - and got blown out. The Vols didn't stop Ohio State the entire first half. No road team won last year.

Everybody version of who should've gotten in is different. It's laughable when people say Texas should be in.

Now it's about to be made worse. A 5 loss Duke team would be in next year? A Notre Dame team that finishes #12 has a guaranteed spot? Folks making an argument for a 3 loss Texas team that didn't make the conference championship.

Part of this will always be subjective. If we look at FCS, there could be some whining there too we just don't hear about it.

I think JMU and Tulane can beat a top 25 team just like some of you make the subjective assumption they wouldn't. I am a little bothered by 1st round rematches from the regular season especially one where Ole Miss handed Tulane a similar loss.
 
#38
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Rickyvol77 said:
They were 11-0 because just as with the case of all the G5 "elite teams" over the years (Boise St, Marshall, James Madison, Fresno St, Hawaii, etc), they DIDN'T PLAY ANYONE....

having a 12-1 or 11-0 record doesn't matter when literally 30-40 teams would have the same record

1998-Tulane (CUSA)​
9/5​
@*Cincinnati (2-9)W
52​
34​
9/12​
@Southern Methodist (5-7)W
31​
21​
9/26​
vs.Navy (3-8)W
42​
24​
10/3​
vs.*Southern Mississippi (7-5)W
21​
7​
10/17​
vs.*Louisville (7-5)W
28​
22​
10/24​
@Rutgers (5-6)W
52​
24​
10/31​
vs.Louisiana (2-9)W
72​
20​
11/7​
@*Memphis (2-9)W
41​
31​
11/14​
@*Army (3-8)W
49​
35​
11/21​
vs.*Houston (3-8)W
48​
20​
11/26​
vs.Louisiana Tech (6-6)W
63​
30​
12/31​
vs.Brigham Young (9-5)W
41​
27​
@ Memphis, TNLiberty Bowl
12-0-0​
540295
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I miss the days when Southern Miss was a winning program. They were App St before App St.
 
#40
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BreatheUT said:
The complaining and screeching is funny. You could select 24 teams and people will complain about the last 4.

I got news for you. Blowouts exist.

Tennessee got in last year - and got blown out. The Vols didn't stop Ohio State the entire first half. No road team won last year.

Everybody version of who should've gotten in is different. It's laughable when people say Texas should be in.

Now it's about to be made worse. A 5 loss Duke team would be in next year? A Notre Dame team that finishes #12 has a guaranteed spot? Folks making an argument for a 3 loss Texas team that didn't make the conference championship.

Part of this will always be subjective. If we look at FCS, there could be some whining there too we just don't hear about it.

I think JMU and Tulane can beat a top 25 team just like some of you make the subjective assumption they wouldn't. I am a little bothered by 1st round rematches from the regular season especially one where Ole Miss handed Tulane a similar loss.
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The issue is that neither Tulane or JMU "earned" anything....

James Madison won 14-7 against a 1-11 Georgia State team...

Their schedule was awful and their best win was a 3 loss ODU team.

SOS matters; if Tennessee played JMU's schedule they would've been 12-0 easily, as would 30-40 P5 teams...
 
#42
#42
Flogballs said:
We’re all aware of the format. We’re saying the format needs to change. And surely it will.
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Doubtful. There are reasons the CFP does what it does with the criteria and some of them are likely legal issues.

Besides, it's an entertainment product not a product that claims to have "the 12 best teams."

The problem is in perception of what the CFP actually is. You seem to think it is or should be a "the 12 best" tournament but that was never the claim nor goal of the CFP.
 
#43
#43
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Doubtful. There are reasons the CFP does what it does with the criteria and some of them are likely legal issues.

Besides, it's an entertainment product not a product that claims to have "the 12 best teams."

The problem is in perception of what the CFP actually is. You seem to think it is or should be a "the 12 best" tournament but that was never the claim nor goal of the CFP.
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It is an entertainment product and games like last night are not entertaining.

For the same reason you see conferences going to more in-conference games… there’s too much money at stake these days to waste on non-interesting matchups.
 
#44
#44
Flogballs said:
It is an entertainment product and games like last night are not entertaining.

For the same reason you see conferences going to more in-conference games… there’s too much money at stake these days to waste on non-interesting matchups.
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I'll wager all the games were highly watched though the NFL being on and being a better game convinced me to switch.

The CFP is under a certain amount of legal and business pressure to include lesser conference champions and next year to almost certainly "auto bid" Notre Dame.

Does it make for "the best of the best" tournament? No. Does it make for less business and legal issues for the CFP? Yes.

Fans are at the bottom of the ladder on this behind legal and business issues.

That's why the tournament is what it is.
 
#46
#46
Rickyvol77 said:
The issue is that neither Tulane or JMU "earned" anything....

James Madison won 14-7 against a 1-11 Georgia State team...

Their schedule was awful and their best win was a 3 loss ODU team.

SOS matters; if Tennessee played JMU's schedule they would've been 12-0 easily, as would 30-40 P5 teams...
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I agree.
 
#49
#49
will-you-shut-up-man said:
So supposedly people are looking for a March Madness style upsets. Well this ain’t basketball so that ain’t happening.
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I don’t understand why people want it to be college basketball or March Madness. The greatest product that college football produces is the regular season. The post season of D1 college football has always been a joke, more so than any other sport, but there is also a common sense approach that can occur w/ the postseason of college football . There should be an avenue for a G5 school to have the opportunity to play in a 12 team CFP, but the idea that 2 got in is absurd . There needs to be some stipulations that need to be met in order to qualify. Tulane probably met that by beating the ACC champ H2H, but JMU being included was a joke. Anyone that watched the JMU vs Troy game would know that . The unintended consequences of these G5 teams that had 0 chance to win is that UGA gets almost an entire month to prep for Ole Miss only. UGA wasted zero time watching Tulane film. None. TTU wasted zero time prepping for JMU. That’s an unfair advantage. At least Ohio State and IU had to spend some time on aTm and Oklahoma. There needs to be corrections made and I bet the tv #’s from the 3:30 and night will reflect that in the viewership.
 
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#50
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Rickyvol77 said:
Tennessee earned their playoff spot though, these teams didn't
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I agree that Tulane and JMU didn’t belong in the playoffs, but based on the current criteria they did earn their spots. I’m sure that when it was agreed upon that the 5 highest ranked conference champions would get automatic bids it was assumed that it would always be the power 4 champions and 1 G5 champion. Maybe 2 G5 teams getting in will force some change. I haven’t seen the ratings, but I’m guessing a lot of people turned the channel when it was clear these games weren’t going to be competitive. I’m sure that the TV networks that are paying a lot of money to broadcast these games aren’t going to be happy with that.
 
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