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#84,152
25vol said:
Seen lackluster tackling this year in almost every game. Especially Oklahoma. Watching our defense take the field vs. OK defense was eye opening. They looked bigger, meaner and tougher than us and flew to the ball every play and made us pay for yards. Man id kill for a defense like they have.
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JA threw for nearly 400 yards and 3 tuddies vs OU.

JA threw for more yards than our D gave up total that game.

You sure you mean the OU vs Vols game this year?
 
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Don't get the love of Knowles. He had an overwhelming amount talent at OSUe (Pruitt syndrome?).

At Duke it took him 4 years just to do better than 23 ppg. Took 5 years at OSUw. At PSU, his 1 year was the worst non-covid defense (conference-only schedule) in a decade.


Patience would be needed, not sure that is going to happen here (right now, in this situation). Walters seems to hit the ground running, which seems to be the only thing will get a new face 2+ years. We have returning talent and a big class incoming, so folks will expect a quick return to 16-22 ppg.
 
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Don't get the love of Knowles. He had an overwhelming amount talent at OSUe (Pruitt syndrome?).

At Duke it took him 4 years just to do better than 23 ppg. Took 5 years at OSUw. At PSU, his 1 year was the worst non-covid defense (conference-only schedule) in a decade.


Patience would be needed, not sure that is going to happen here (right now, in this situation). Walters seems to hit the ground running, which seems to be the only thing that will get a new face 2+ years. We have returning talent and a big class incoming, so folks will expect a quick return to 16-22 ppg.
 
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25vol said:
If Inge is tapped as DC, would ya’ll be upset?

Not sure how I would feel about that. He’s obviously a great recruiter but honestly I think we need some new blood.
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*I wouldn't hate it but if we end up promoting Inge, that probably means Heupel got told no ..... several times. WI is 53 yrs old and never been "the guy". Screenshot_20251208_182246_DuckDuckGo.jpg

With the money we were paying Banks, I think we could do better. I agree with you about needing new blood and I think Heupel already knows who it is.
 
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MemphisVol3 said:
He transformed those Mizzou defenses into really good defenses. They were bad before he took over. They used to beat our a** when he was there.

He coached Devon Witherspoon @ Illinois (Jim Thorpe finalist)
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We went 4-2 when he was at Mizzou, which included position coach and as DC. Last year of Butch and first year of Pruitt. Butch was fired right after. I wouldn’t call those good offenses for us.

That said, I do like his history and would be thrilled. But those were 2 bad years for us all the way around.
 
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Devo182 said:
Don't get the love of Knowles. He had an overwhelming amount talent at OSUe (Pruitt syndrome?).

At Duke it took him 4 years just to do better than 23 ppg. Took 5 years at OSUw. At PSU, his 1 year was the worst non-covid defense (conference-only schedule) in a decade.


Patience would be needed, not sure that is going to happen here (right now, in this situation). Walters seems to hit the ground running, which seems to be the only thing that will get a new face 2+ years. We have returning talent and a big class incoming, so folks will expect a quick return to 16-22 ppg.
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I would be content not giving up 4th and 17 multiple times a game. We rag on Max about UGA, but if the defense hadn't suddenly gone flaccid, it wouldn't have been on him to win it.
 
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JT3 said:
Don't know anything about Walters. Seems solid as a DC.

2025: (Bold is what is important to me)

Scoring Defense: tied 21st
Total Defense: 20th
Rushing Defense: 17th
Passing Defense: 50th
3rd Down %: 62nd
Sacks: tied 92nd
TOs: tied 77th

Would need to do the other years to form a true opinion. This is for informational purposes.
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Red Zone defense is what I really concentrate on... Kick all the FG's they want but keep them out of the endzone..
 
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VOLatileOrange said:
These are the rankings of points allowed for his teams as DC
2022 Illinois: 1st
2021 Illinois: 29th
2020 Missouri: 85th
2019 Missouri: 16th
2018 Missouri: 50th
While his defenses have struggled some years, you can’t completely ignore the good seasons he’s had.
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While I’m glad we are making a change, this post is ironic based on the discussion the last week. Glad for some new ideas and hopefully a younger guy.
 
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JoeySwag said:
Walter's has had very average to below average defenses during his career. Has had team defenses ranked 50th, 85th and a few in the 100s.
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His last 3 defenses as DC:

2025 - Washington - 19th
2022 - Illinois - #1
2021 - Illinois - 29th


Seems like he figured something out as a playcaller and does more with less 🤔
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
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*I wouldn't hate it but if we end up promoting Inge, that probably means Heupel got told no ..... several times. WI's 53 and never been "the guy". View attachment 796935

With the money we were paying Banks, I think we could do better. I agree with you about needing new blood and I think Heupel already knows who it is.
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Only reason I mentioned is Heupel loves to promote from within and I’ve seen his name float around today (doesn’t mean he’s a serious candidate however)
 
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Weezer said:
Okay, so I took my mom to an eye appt earlier, and I was listening to the radio. Can't stand Tyler and Will but I listened anyway and one thing that was said caught my attention, and one thing that was speculated on did to. The speculation, William Inge is probably the next DC. Why? Because it will be hard to hire a DC if he doesn't have freedom to hire his own guys, and they're not convinced Heupel is willing to part with his other defensive guys. I could see that being true. Not saying it is, but it's not a huge stretch. It makes sense.

What was said, in the years Heupel and Banks have been here, supposedly tackle drills were not part of practice. On the one hand, it is hard for me to imagine coaches not going over fundamentals. On the other hand, I've spent enough Saturdays yelling at the TV to know our tackling is atrocious. If it is true, that's not only on Banks, that's on Heupel as HC. HC is responsible for making sure the fundamentals of the game are being taught. I hope it's not true. Surely it can't be. But when you think about our attempts at tackling...... You can't help but wonder.
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If the guys just did thud tackling during practice, could it be because of our lack of depth this year with DB's? Maybe trying to limit injuries during practice. That would make more sense than just bad coaching.
 
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Coaching Style and Impact

Walters runs versatile, player-owned schemes that prioritize bend-but-don't-break coverage and opportunistic pressure without over-relying on blitzes. His defenses thrive on turnovers—Illinois led FBS in INTs (2022)—and he's a master recruiter/developer of DBs and DLs, sending multiple players to the NFL (e.g., Witherspoon to Seahawks). Critics note occasional late-season dips (e.g., Missouri 2020: 106th in FEI), but his peaks are unmatched: only DC to vault a unit from 97th to #1 in scoring defense in two years. At 39, his Big Ten/SEC experience, youth, and ties to Heupel make him a hot commodity—recent buzz positions him as a "name to know" for Tennessee's DC search post-Tim Banks firing.
 
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