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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
Who wins the title this year?

I think it’s one of these three:

UGA
OSU
Indiana

My guess is UGA. That team has grown up the last half of the year and they are dominant.
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I think OSU is not likely... assuming A&M beats Miami then it's OSU vs A&M in Texas at the Cotton Bowl. While Georgia gets either Ole Miss (without Lane) or Tulane in Atlanta at the Sugar Bowl.

I'm expecting A&M vs Georgia for Fiesta...

Other side Texas Tech waits on Oregon to play at the Orange Bowl (toss up game, think Oregon likely wins)
Indiana gets winner of Bama/OU at the Rose Bowl...I hope Indiana wins but could see either SEC team beating them.


Guess I'd say Oregon, Texas Tech or Georgia... I'd love for it to be Indiana vs A&M or Tulane though
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Why though? Genuine question. I don't know why everyone is so adamant to defend the bowl games.

"You will accept your reward (punishment) for having a winning season and you will like it!"

I completely understand why the people making money off of the bowl games want a rule like this. I don't really understand why the average fan is so hot and bothered by it.

I like college football. I also want more games. I don't really fathom how it makes sense to force players to play a game they don't want to play though.
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You have sponsors of the sport that put up their money to put these bowls on. IMO, it is more of a good faith between the teams and the sponsors. Eventually it will kill off the lower tier bowls. Thankfully not everyone is like Notre Dame. Take your team and give some of the 2nd and third string guys a shot. You think a guy that has put in 4 years and has never had a chance to play wouldn't revel in an opportunity to get a chance to play one last time. If a player wants to set out to prep for the draft let him.
 
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Batman1948 said:
I think they all had a come to Jesus meeting and this is the last stand for some. Considering the injuries we had this year, everyone may get one more year to prove their worth. Right or wrong, this is how I think this plays out right now.

If I'm correct, Heupel must have some large stones because he's playing with his own legacy. The other part of this equation is the transfer portal in January. If UT brings in some studs on that side of the ball, Banks may stay, if not, he may be gone after the portal.

Just food for thought
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If your making a change at DC, do it before portal opens
 
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SmyrnaATLVolisback said:
Who wins the title this year?

I think it’s one of these three:

UGA
OSU
Indiana

My guess is UGA. That team has grown up the last half of the year and they are dominant.
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I wouldn't leave Texas Tech out...I'm still of the belief that whoever wins the IU-Texas Tech game will face UGA in the natty. Ohio St. didn't play anyone all year and it showed (thanks Indiana for the $$$ lol)...Texas Tech defense is LEGIT. I expect the natty game to be a physical slugfest which will be different than the higher scorer games or dominant games we're used to seeing.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You can clearly see that Banks sucks. Did Banks suck last year? If he did why did none of y'all say anything then? Fact is most of these people making excutive decisions only know two things, the score and google stats.
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Cool. I had an employee who was great last year. He hasn't done his job this year, but I paid him anyway. Naturally I'll keep him another year in the hopes that he'll start doing his job again.

Only in coaching does anyone think this makes sense.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You can clearly see that Banks sucks. Did Banks suck last year? If he did why did none of y'all say anything then? Fact is most of these people making excutive decisions only know two things, the score and google stats.
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“The numbers show I am average. But look at my scheme. Does that look average?”

The stats, year over year, show that he’s average. Doesn’t that make him exactly that? I don’t know what your argument is. Everyone on here has stated his overall performance at Tennessee has been just average. You point to 2024 as justification to him not being average. Even then, he allowed the average PPG againt the top offenses he faced that year. Ohio State scored 42 pts per game in 2024. They scored 41 on us. UGA scored 31 points per game. They scored exactly that against us in Athens. So even in his best year. He was “average” when it was time for him to be great. Is that fair? Maybe, maybe not. But to be the pillar that carries you to a championship. I need something better than “average” when we play against the best. 2023 was the same story. Look up the PPG of the top offenses we faced. And you will see our Defense gives up that number almost to a T in a head to head matchup. It’s a consistent pattern against the top offenses he faces. No more, no less than their average Points Scored.

You can eliminate 2024 and 2025, his best and worst years and you will still see he is just average. It’s VERY concerning that year 5 is his worst year. Even worse than 2021, when almost half of our roster left before the season, and you had to install a new scheme. Even with injuries, there has to be a culture and standard in place when you make $2.1 Million per year. That cannot happen in an established defensive culture. That much money is TOP 10 DC money, not average. And his track record is showing just that. Average results and an elite defense every five years or so. I don’t think the money invested is expecting just average
 
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SSVol said:
Cool. I had an employee who was great last year. He hasn't done his job this year, but I paid him anyway. Naturally I'll keep him another year in the hopes that he'll start doing his job again.

Only in coaching does anyone think this makes sense.
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Damn you keep ****** employees around for another year if they don’t do their job??

Uh…..hire me?
 
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SmokinBob said:
But Bama wouldn’t have had 3 losses if they hadn’t played in the SEC Championship. They’d‘ve had the same record as ND who didn’t have to play anyone…I just don’t know what the solution is with ND, they get the same what seems unfair considerations as Bama…
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Bama should have lost the argument by getting blown out in the SEC CG. ND should be forced to join a conference if they want to have a shot at the CFP, but under the system as is, it was stupid not to punish Bama for getting blown out. They didn't just lose. They got embarrassed. BYU would have only had 1 loss if they hadn't played in their CG. Does anyone think BYU should be in? Of course not. But the Bama bias has been so ingrained it even has Bama haters defending them. They are not special. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. They shouldn't have been included in the field.
 
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R0CKYT0P 16 said:
“The numbers show I am average. But look at my scheme. Does that look average?”

The stats, year over year, show that he’s average. Doesn’t that make him exactly that? I don’t know what your argument is. Everyone on here has stated his overall performance at Tennessee has been just average. You point to 2024 as justification to him not being average. Even then, he allowed the average PPG againt the top offenses he faced that year. Ohio State scored 42 pts per game in 2024. They scored 41 on us. UGA scored 31 points per game. They scored exactly that against us in Athens. So even in his best year. He was “average” when it was time for him to be great. Is that fair? Maybe, maybe not. But to be the pillar that carries you to a championship. I need something better than “average” when we play against the best. 2023 was the same story. Look up the PPG of the top offenses we faced. And you will see our Defense gives up that number almost to a T in a head to head matchup. It’s a consistent pattern against the top offenses he faces. No more, no less than their average Points Scored.

You can eliminate 2024 and 2025, his best and worst years and you will still see he is just average. It’s VERY concerning that year 5 is his worst year. Even worse than 2021, when almost half of our roster left before the season, and you had to install a new scheme. Even with injuries, there has to be a culture and standard in place when you make $2.1 Million per year. That cannot happen in an established defensive culture. That much money is TOP 10 DC money, not average. And his track record is showing just that. Average results and an elite defense every five years or so. I don’t think the money invested is expecting just average
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We had an average QB we paid $2M. Why not a DC?

I'm in the wrong business.
 
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Weezer said:
I agree ND should be in a conference.

The incentive to play in the conference championship is to win the conference. You shouldn't go unpunished when you get your ass handed to you. That was Bama's playoff game. Losing it should have left them out of the field.
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How do you feel good about putting in other conference teams that have the same record pre-CG but aren’t good enough to make the CG like an OU?

It doesn’t make sense.

Can’t punish the CG loser and move them out of the playoff. Basically Bama would’ve been better if they didn’t make the game? That’s silly.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Well it would be refreshing to hear someone on the fire Banks train give some specific football reasons for why Banks is so terrible and should be fired. All they spout is stats and rankings. Googling stats and rankings is all non-ball knowers do.
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I'm not necessarily on the fire Banks train but in my opinion there are some issues that need to be addressed. I did play football from pee wee all the way through high school. Simply not athletic enough to play at the major college level, so I have a decent understanding of what I am viewing. It's my opinion that we aren't doing anything that different in the schematic department as everyone at the major college level has access and understanding of those schemes. The major variable in coaching is how the coaches teach and the discipline that his offense or defense displays during the game. I just see a very disorganized unit that, often times is confused or simply doesn't know what they are supposed to do. Watch a top flight defense and you rarely see them adjusting as the offense is snapping the ball. I just see a very undisciplined defense and that is a direct reflection on coaching. I will rarely, if ever scream that a coach needs to be fired but if I'm Heupel, I would have a hard time justifying what our defense put on film this year. What separates good coaches from great coaches is how they teach and the dicscipline they instill in their team. I would also think that we have to rethink our practice strategy as we simply didn't know how to do basic fundamental tackling. Heupel knows more than I will ever know but sometimes you just have to have someone fall on the sword to change the narrative. I think we have reached that point but we will see what he decides to do. I just don't think he needs to be in a hurry as we have plenty of time. He also could have an NFL person in mind which would delay the time table as well. In Heupel I trust. Go Vols.
 
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