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#79,101
MoCo_Vol said:
Also something that really annoys me...

Jeremiyah Love for ND, 1372 rushing yards and 18 TDs and EVERYONE has him as a Heisman Finalist.
Dylan Sampson for Vols, 1491 rushing yards and 22 TDs and NO ONE had him in the top 10...

There are 3 RBs with more total yards than Love right now and 2 RBs with more TDs than him as well and he's not even leading in total scrimmage yards (3rd there as well).

If any RB should be a finalist it should be Caleb Hawkins from North Texas, a team that is playing for their conference championship and his 26 total TDs and over 1500 yards from scrimmage is a big reason why.
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Super weak class of Heisman this year is why. One of the worst in recent memory.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Texas is 2-2 against Top 10 ranked teams after a full regular season schedule. That record would be 2-1 if Texas chose to not schedule a cupcake instead of Ohio State.

Meanwhile, Vandy doesn't have a single win vs any team ranked in the playoff standings after a full 12 game season.

There is no sane person that can make any defense of Vandy being ranked ahead of Texas given Texas' 2 wins against current Top 10 playoff ranked teams and the Head to Head win over Vandy.

1 bad loss doesn't trump 2 wins over #7 and #8 ranked teams. Vandy doesn't have any bad losses, but they don't have any good wins to the caliber of Texas'
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But also F both of em.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Texas has an extra loss and easily getting beat at Florida by 8 is the worse loss of any team in the top 15.

Vandy beat LSU (7-5), Missouri (8-4), and at TN (8-4). Texas' best 2 wins were home games that had they been played on the road they would have lost. To me it comes down to which team has less losses and which team plays best away from their home stadium because both will be on the road for the CFP. And it's Vandy without question.

If head to head was all that mattered then why isn't Bama above Georgia? Or why isn't Texas ahead of 10-2 OU (same record as Vandy

The highest ranked 2 loss SEC team should be Bama, because they're playing in the title game. No 3 loss team should be top 15 imo because that 3rd loss matters. USC and Michigan both aren't rewarded. And USC's 3 losses are all on the road and every team won at least 8 games with 2 of their losses being to 10 win teams.

Losing to 4-8 Florida is enough to put Texas firmly behind every 2 loss team in the SEC regardless of head to head when playing at home.
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but it's Texas. . . and Vandy. . .

. . . I like that Vanderbilt is getting humped over.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Texas has an extra loss and easily getting beat at Florida by 8 is the worse loss of any team in the top 15.

Vandy beat LSU (7-5), Missouri (8-4), and at TN (8-4). Texas' best 2 wins were home games that had they been played on the road they would have lost. To me it comes down to which team has less losses and which team plays best away from their home stadium because both will be on the road for the CFP. And it's Vandy without question.

If head to head was all that mattered then why isn't Bama above Georgia? Or why isn't Texas ahead of 10-2 OU (same record as Vandy

The highest ranked 2 loss SEC team should be Bama, because they're playing in the title game. No 3 loss team should be top 15 imo because that 3rd loss matters. USC and Michigan both aren't rewarded. And USC's 3 losses are all on the road and every team won at least 8 games with 2 of their losses being to 10 win teams.

Losing to 4-8 Florida is enough to put Texas firmly behind every 2 loss team in the SEC regardless of head to head when playing at home.
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Losing to Florida does not outweigh the fact that Texas has a win over the #7 ranked team, the #8 ranked team, and a head to head win over Vandy. The only thing that Vandy can "claim" to better at than Texas is they don't have a bad loss. They can't argue they have a good/great win either.

Also spare us all of the mouth breather hypotheticals "If they were on the road" bs.

Georgia has 1 loss. Alabama has 2.... There are multiple teams in between them. Texas and Vandy have mostly been ranked in a cluster the last 2 months.

USC lost 3 conference games. Michigan lost 2 conference games and a loss to OU in out of conference.

Once again, there is no sane argument that Vandy should be over Texas solely based on idea that Vandy has no good wins and no bad losses while they lost to Texas and Texas has 2 wins against two Top 10 teams.

I can get onboard that one top ten win doesn't really wipe out that bad loss to Florida, but it loses all weight when you go and have multiple top ten wins. And the discussion ends when you have the head to head result.
 
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I don't think it's fair to retroactively grade losses at the conclusion of a season.

Teams go through ups and downs and often the team you play in September isn't the same as the one by November.

Like sorry, the Syracuse we played with Angelli was five hundred times better than the one post Achilles injury. They had just waxed a Clemson team that also, had not fallen apart yet.

FSU Bama was obviously not a foreshadowing of what was to come either.

I think a failure to acknowledge this is proof of just wanting to push a narrative.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Once again I find myself thinking about having a 1000 yard receiver headed to NFL, a 1000 yard RB, and two freshmen with 700 yards, in best offense in SEC.

And struggling to land a top notch RB. And struggling to keep guys we have committed, committed.

I dont want to be negative, but that doesnt evoke a positive vibe.
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Sorry Jack but you are the very definition of negative!
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Losing to Florida does not outweigh the fact that Texas has a win over the #7 ranked team, the #8 ranked team, and a head to head win over Vandy. The only thing that Vandy can "claim" to better at than Texas is they don't have a bad loss. They can't argue they have a good/great win either.

Also spare us all of the mouth breather hypotheticals "If they were on the road" bs.

Georgia has 1 loss. Alabama has 2.... There are multiple teams in between them. Texas and Vandy have mostly been ranked in a cluster the last 2 months.

USC lost 3 conference games. Michigan lost 2 conference games and a loss to OU in out of conference.

Once again, there is no sane argument that Vandy should be over Texas solely based on idea that Vandy has no good wins and no bad losses while they lost to Texas and Texas has 2 wins against two Top 10 teams.

I can get onboard that one top ten win doesn't really wipe out that bad loss to Florida, but it loses all weight when you go and have multiple top ten wins. And the discussion ends when you have the head to head result.
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Oh wow now with the personal attacks? Cool.

We're done. Disagree if ya want, that's fine. But attacking me is childish and you can kick rocks.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Oh wow now with the personal attacks? Cool.

We're done. Disagree if ya want, that's fine. But attacking me is childish and you can kick rocks.
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I've never understood the insult of being a "mouth breather". I have sinus issues and breath through my mouth all the time and I'm one of the smartest people I know.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I've never understood the insult of being a "mouth breather". I have sinus issues and breath through my mouth all the time and I'm one of the smartest people I know.
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I do my best to just share thoughts/opinions and information that supports that without attacking anyone disagreeing.

It's subjective which is why the CFP committee spends so much time debating this stuff. But if Texas' resume belonged to anyone other than Texas they wouldn't be where they are, at all.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Agreed any SEC or BIG 10 team

That goes 10-2 with both losses on the road to two teams currently in the top 15 and one playing in the conference title game that has 4 wins over AP top 25 teams (at time of facing them) would usually be in the CFP

The fact a 3 loss Texas jumped them is the biggest BS.

Not a Vandy fan either, but their resume is better than Texas (2-3 on road), Miami (best win was ND to start the season), & Notre Dame (once again playing a soft schedule and still losing 2 toughest games of the year)
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playoff committee is straight garbage and we all know it.
Just listen to how much idiocy is spewed about how "big" of a win bama had at 5-7 Auburn and saying Vandy doesn't have a quality win a week after beating UTs a$$ on the road.?

Vandy beat #11 South Carolina and the next week they were unranked
Vandy beats a top 15is ranked Missouri...the next week, they are unranked
Vandy beats #10 LSU............next week they are #25 and firing their coach shortly
Vandy beats #19 UT...........next week they are unranked.............

Switch out Vandy with______________.

riots.

the entire system is screwed up. a committee? :rolleyes: And they are debating ND, Miami, BYU, and Utah?

idiots
 
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peaygolf said:
playoff committee is straight garbage and we all know it.
Just listen to how much idiocy is spewed about how "big" of a win bama had at 5-7 Auburn and saying Vandy doesn't have a quality win a week after beating UTs a$$ on the road.?

Vandy beat #11 South Carolina and the next week they were unranked
Vandy beats a top 15is ranked Missouri...the next week, they are unranked
Vandy beats #10 LSU............next week they are #25 and firing their coach shortly
Vandy beats #19 UT...........next week they are unranked.............

Switch out Vandy with______________.

riots.

the entire system is screwed up. a committee? :rolleyes: And they are debating ND, Miami, BYU, and Utah?

idiots
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Yeah, I hate that there's not clear cut parameters that anyone can review.

But total win/losses has to be up there...the playoffs is about rewarded the best teams for the first 12 games...not just 1 big win or 1 bad loss.
 
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