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While there is no doubt that coach H has pulled the team out of the cellar that the Vols have lived in for so long, there's this fence that he can't climb over. Other SEC teams have shown us that we are in a rut, but I don't know if he can pull us out of it. It goes without saying that Banks should go, but what about the offence? It's not just about the head coach, we need to bring in new blood, creative assistants who have their pulse on the modern game, and the willingness for Josh to listen to them.
 
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NorthGeorgia_VolFan said:
Josh does not love Tennessee enough to take them to the next level. It shows. He just there for checks IMO. If he did. Banks would be gone. Banks has been there 5 years I believe…. 1 good defense in 5 years?????????? Time for a change.
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That could be said for 90% of coaches out there…
 
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mudhen said:
While there is no doubt that coach H has pulled the team out of the cellar that the Vols have lived in for so long, there's this fence that he can't climb over.
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To "jump the fence" in the SEC, you have to run a very disciplined program. Attention to detail in every facet of your program is required. One of the knocks on Heupel is his programs are notoriously "sloppy". The attention to detail is lacking. Rumor is that Golesh was sort of the heavy hand a-hole guy when he was here and brought that attention to detail on the offensive side. I just dont know if Heupel can fix that at this point in his career.
 
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NorthGeorgia_VolFan said:
Josh does not love Tennessee enough to take them to the next level. It shows. He just there for checks IMO. If he did. Banks would be gone. Banks has been there 5 years I believe…. 1 good defense in 5 years?????????? Time for a change.
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The days of a coach loving where he is to the extent you're wanting are for the most part long gone.

The only ones I can think of that probably fit into that is Kirk Ferentz at Iowa since he's been there almost 30 years, Kyle Whittingham at Utah, Kirby Smart at Georgia since he played there, and Kalani Sitake at BYU as he played there.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The days of a coach loving where he is to the extent you're wanting are for the most part long gone.

The only ones I can think of that probably fit into that is Kirk Ferentz at Iowa since he's been there almost 30 years, Kyle Whittingham at Utah, Kirby Smart at Georgia since he played there, and Kalani Sitake at BYU as he played there.
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I know man. But dang. Love UT enough to seem like u care. U know what I’m saying? His press conference last night, just seemed like he didn’t give a rats azz.
 
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NorthGeorgia_VolFan said:
Josh does not love Tennessee enough to take them to the next level. It shows. He just there for checks IMO. If he did. Banks would be gone. Banks has been there 5 years I believe…. 1 good defense in 5 years?????????? Time for a change.
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I agree but too many on here think that any criticism is a sign you’re not a loyal fan. I’m going to say what many on here don’t have the guts to say. We really haven’t been relevant since they fired a true lover of this team and state. Phil Fulmer we have been in football purgatory ever since they ran out a man that was from Tennessee, played at Tennessee and coached us to the last national championship we’ve won . We keep hiring fools that could give a rip about this school and state. And what’s the definition of insanity? Well as Paul Harvey said “now you know the rest of the story”! Something has got to give people! We are now the laughing stock of the Sec by getting our asses beat by the garbage school of the SEC damn that sucks!’nn
 
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volgr said:
To "jump the fence" in the SEC, you have to run a very disciplined program. Attention to detail in every facet of your program is required. One of the knocks on Heupel is his programs are notoriously "sloppy". The attention to detail is lacking. Rumor is that Golesh was sort of the heavy hand a-hole guy when he was here and brought that attention to detail on the offensive side. I just dont know if Heupel can fix that at this point in his career.
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I don't think so. It rarely happens anyway. I think we'll have to live with what we're seeing. You just got to hope he ends up with a QB that is a problem for everybody..
 
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NorthGeorgia_VolFan said:
I know man. But dang. Love UT enough to seem like u care. U know what I’m saying? His press conference last night, just seemed like he didn’t give a rats azz.
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I get it, but I think it's also because the job itself is just not the same. Today's coaches deal with a lot more pressure due to 24/7 coverage and the internet and social media and it's got to be tiring. And to be honest the whole "press conference" set up is kind of archaic now, the old days you had to face the music at the press conference and then you could kinda tune it all out until the newspaper came out the next day. Now? It never stops.
 
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volgr said:
To "jump the fence" in the SEC, you have to run a very disciplined program. Attention to detail in every facet of your program is required. One of the knocks on Heupel is his programs are notoriously "sloppy". The attention to detail is lacking. Rumor is that Golesh was sort of the heavy hand a-hole guy when he was here and brought that attention to detail on the offensive side. I just dont know if Heupel can fix that at this point in his career.
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Appears he needs to have more of an CEO approach.
 
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Usaf redhorse said:
I agree but too many on here think that any criticism is a sign you’re not a loyal fan. I’m going to say what many on here don’t have the guts to say. We really haven’t been relevant since they fired a true lover of this team and state. Phil Fulmer we have been in football purgatory ever since they ran out a man that was from Tennessee, played at Tennessee and coached us to the last national championship we’ve won . We keep hiring fools that could give a rip about this school and state. And what’s the definition of insanity? Well as Paul Harvey said “now you know the rest of the story”! Something has got to give people! We are now the laughing stock of the Sec by getting our asses beat by the garbage school of the SEC damn that sucks!’nn
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Mainly because you all look like fools because you all don't have any information on what the coaches do. Yall barely can write correct sentences. The loudest people are the " I did my own research" people.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I get it, but I think it's also because the job itself is just not the same. Today's coaches deal with a lot more pressure due to 24/7 coverage and the internet and social media and it's got to be tiring. And to be honest the whole "press conference" set up is kind of archaic now, the old days you had to face the music at the press conference and then you could kinda tune it all out until the newspaper came out the next day. Now? It never stops.
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Pressure vs compensation? 9 million is pretty good compensation for what ever pressure you think he’s got! Hell even if he’s fired he still gets a nice buyout! So pressure what pressure. Want to know pressure how about a 0-2 first lieutenant making maybe 50k a year going into a combat zone and getting shot at and seeing your fellow soldiers die. Don’t give me that pressure ********!!
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Mainly because you all look like fools because you all don't have any information on what the coaches do. Yall barely can write correct sentences. The loudest people are the " I did my own research" people.
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Well since your so damn smart and like to check others grammar and sentence structure maybe you should pull for Vandy because they are all smart asses over there and hell they have a pretty good 🏈 team too✅
 
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It's not just allowing sloppy playing/approach, its also not adjusting to game conditions at half time, it's lack of game preparation, it's not making changes to improve the defense year after year. To be fair, he's righted the program when it was in shambles after Cornbread and we were penalized but I think we've come to realize this is our ceiling= middle of the pack in the SEC. Unless you have a sure fire replacement, I don't see a reason to make a change
 
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Usaf redhorse said:
Pressure vs compensation? 9 million is pretty good compensation for what ever pressure you think he’s got! Hell even if he’s fired he still gets a nice buyout! So pressure what pressure. Want to know pressure how about a 0-2 first lieutenant making maybe 50k a year going into a combat zone and getting shot at and seeing your fellow soldiers die. Don’t give me that pressure ********!!
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If that fool LT is only making 50K a year, he’s not in the US Army. And in a combat zone??? Please….. his or her compensation is well over 6 digits.
 
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ScreamingEagleVol said:
If that fool LT is only making 50K a year, he’s not in the US Army. And in a combat zone??? Please….. his or her compensation is well over 6 digits.
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So right off the bat calling someone who has the courage to serve their country a fool is crossing a line that would get your ass kicked on any military base in this country! Also the 2026 military base pay for a O-2 with 2 years service is 4606.00 per month do just a little more than 55k year my point is Heupel is very well compensated for his perceived pressure! And by the way did you serve? Playing call of duty in the comfort of your mommas house doesn’t count! I did serve 10 years of my young life with tours to the Middle East!! Maybe I was a fool for protecting unappreciative assholes like you!!’
 
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Usaf redhorse said:
So right off the bat calling someone who has the courage to serve their country a fool is crossing a line that would get your ass kicked on any military base in this country! Also the 2026 military base pay for a O-2 with 2 years service is 4606.00 per month do just a little more than 55k year my point is Heupel is very well compensated for his perceived pressure! And by the way did you serve? Playing call of duty in the comfort of your mommas house doesn’t count! I did serve 10 years of my young life with tours to the Middle East!! Maybe I was a fool for protecting unappreciative assholes like you!!’
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Compensation to people that coach the game of football isn’t the fault of coaches but rather those who deem that particular sport’s importance in society.

After 31 years, 9 months and 17 days of service to this country with multiple deployments worldwide, both combat and non combat zones, I earned the privilege to give my opinion. It’s obvious you don’t know or understand the compensation for those that serve in hazardous duty/combat zones. So cool your jets, stand upright and lock those heels together before coming at me….
 
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ScreamingEagleVol said:
Compensation to people that coach the game of football isn’t the fault of coaches but rather those who deem that particular sport’s importance in society.

After 31 years, 9 months and 17 days of service to this country with multiple deployments worldwide, both combat and non combat zones, I earned the privilege to give my opinion. It’s obvious you don’t know or understand the compensation for those that serve in hazardous duty/combat zones. So cool your jets, stand upright and lock those heels together before coming at me….
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When I left active duty my combat pay was about 150 a month not much! Hell I bet Heupel spends that on his dry cleaners a month. I spent almost 40 years working for the Dept. of Veterans Affairs and not once with all my interactions with combat veterans did they ever say that they would love to go back into the **** do they could get that big combat pay. And by the way respect is reciprocal show me respect and I will gladly respond in kind. And yes about your point about what is important in our society is off kilter. I’m currently watching a documentary right now about johnny majors now there was an old school head coach that didn’t coach so he could be a millionaire . The good days of Tennessee football are long gone and ain’t coming back ! Good day sir!!
 
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mudhen said:
While there is no doubt that coach H has pulled the team out of the cellar that the Vols have lived in for so long, there's this fence that he can't climb over. Other SEC teams have shown us that we are in a rut, but I don't know if he can pull us out of it. It goes without saying that Banks should go, but what about the offence? It's not just about the head coach, we need to bring in new blood, creative assistants who have their pulse on the modern game, and the willingness for Josh to listen to them.
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For Joey to come in and learn the offense in less than 3 months and lead us to 8-4 is pretty good imo. The offense wasn’t why we lost games. Well, OU probably.
 
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Usaf redhorse said:
When I left active duty my combat pay was about 150 a month not much! Hell I bet Heupel spends that on his dry cleaners a month. I spent almost 40 years working for the Dept. of Veterans Affairs and not once with all my interactions with combat veterans did they ever say that they would love to go back into the **** do they could get that big combat pay. And by the way respect is reciprocal show me respect and I will gladly respond in kind. And yes about your point about what is important in our society is off kilter. I’m currently watching a documentary right now about johnny majors now there was an old school head coach that didn’t coach so he could be a millionaire . The good days of Tennessee football are long gone and ain’t coming back ! Good day sir!!
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Who the heck dry cleans sweats and pull overs?

Sorry...too good to pass up. Hate me if you must.
 
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