Joey Aguilar added as Plaintiff in Pavia suit

[volfan411]

This a dumb comment. Merk may not have it but to say he has shown that clearly in live action is just idiotic.

He’s played zero time of significance.

It took 50 minutes against New Mexico State just to get the backups in. Lol

The idiocy of some of the statements about Merk are unbelievable.

 

[njvols]

You would be surprised the amount of folks here on vn who said they would rather see him walk.

I say let’s ride with Joey for year 2!

I'm not saying I want to see him walk... I mean who doesn't like the #2 offense in the country. I think you could make the case that we need to get our next round of QBs in the game...something just seems disingenuous about having a 25 year old QB, who's the same age as Joe Milton, who was a 6 year player. Win in the swamp and beat Vandy, and he can roll out drawing social security for all I care.

 

[deatojl]

Okay, i am having a hard time understanding the logic of the people arguing against JA coming back. If I am understanding the argument, we shouldn't want him back because of fear or worry that GMac will transfer leaving us with only JA and a true freshman backup. The same people seem to be assuming that FB will win the starting job in 2027. Here is my take on it:
1. Ty Simpson sat for his first two years behind Jalen Milroe without transferring. Arch Manning sat his first two years behind Quinn Ewers without transferring. At least in Simpson's case, he had a dynamic 5* kid come to Alabama in the 2025 class. It is not at all a certainty that GMac hits the portal.
2. If GMac did hit the portal, what is really lost if you believe FB wins the starting job in 2027? Do you think he would transfer if JA came back next season but would relinquish his starting job to FB and stay as his backup if JA doesn't return?
3. If FB takes the starting job in 2027, then the only thing to really compare, even if JA returns, is who gives you the best chance to win in 2026. If GMac would transfer out due to Joey returning, we would have a true freshman as the backup QB. If Joey does not return and GMac starts next year, he will have the same true freshman as his backup.

 

[volintheham]

…while throwing for 393 and 3 TDs anyway.
smh

Please, two real bad ints and a fumble. TO’s negate TD’s smart guy, 21-10. Completely threw into not double but triple coverage without even reading the defense as a 5 year player. I’m giving him credit for our tackle that missed the block on his fumble. His turnovers have the equivalence to A Foster that they are catastrophic, back to back pick sixes with one giving the Tide a record along with a 14 point swing. In that second quarter of Okie he didn‘t even read the defense, just heaved the ball and his to’s directly resulted in the loses at Bama and Oklahoma. For his size as well he under-throws many balls due to his underwhelming arm strength. His misleading stats are deceiving due to his receivers as he is just a stopgap QB.

We know what he is and isn’t, but he is going to be asking for a lot more money next year if eligible and he will be our Milroe and the ROI isn’t there. You happy with the taxslayer bowl?

 

[volfan102455]

If this suit ends up ruling that JUCO years don't count and that gives JA another year and he wants to play another year, I hope he elects to stay at Tennessee.

As for backups getting time in games - very few SEC schools get their backup QBs in games these days. And it is going to be less in the coming years with only 2 potential games on the schedule where that "might" happen.

CJH is here to win games - he is going to put players on the field that give him (and us) the best chance to win games. He is not going to sacrifice this year for next year or next year for the year after. No successful college football coach does or thinks like that.

 

[praxite33]

Please, two real bad ints and a fumble. TO’s negate TD’s smart guy, 21-10. Completely threw into not double but triple coverage without even reading the defense as a 5 year player. I’m giving him credit for our tackle that missed the block on his fumble. His turnovers have the equivalence to A Foster that they are catastrophic, back to back pick sixes with one giving the Tide a record along with a 14 point swing. In that second quarter of Okie he didn‘t even read the defense, just heaved the ball and his to’s directly resulted in the loses at Bama and Oklahoma. For his size as well he under-throws many balls due to his underwhelming arm strength. His misleading stats are deceiving due to his receivers as he is just a stopgap QB.

We know what he is and isn’t, but he is going to be asking for a lot more money next year if eligible and he will be our Milroe and the ROI isn’t there. You happy with the taxslayer bowl?

I wouldn't assume he'd be asking for a lot more money... He seems like a humble kid who is grateful for the opportunity. He's being paid well and unfortunately he won't be drafted. Atleast not how he sits.

 

[volfan102455]

Okay, i am having a hard time understanding the logic of the people arguing against JA coming back. If I am understanding the argument, we shouldn't want him back because of fear or worry that GMac will transfer leaving us with only JA and a true freshman backup. The same people seem to be assuming that FB will win the starting job in 2027. Here is my take on it:
1. Ty Simpson sat for his first two years behind Jalen Milroe without transferring. Arch Manning sat his first two years behind Quinn Ewers without transferring. At least in Simpson's case, he had a dynamic 5* kid come to Alabama in the 2025 class. It is not at all a certainty that GMac hits the portal.
2. If GMac did hit the portal, what is really lost if you believe FB wins the starting job in 2027? Do you think he would transfer if JA came back next season but would relinquish his starting job to FB and stay as his backup if JA doesn't return?
3. If FB takes the starting job in 2027, then the only thing to really compare, even if JA returns, is who gives you the best chance to win in 2026. If GMac would transfer out due to Joey returning, we would have a true freshman as the backup QB. If Joey does not return and GMac starts next year, he will have the same true freshman as his backup.

It is the backup QB must always better syndrome coupled with folks worrying about what they can't control.

 

[volfan102455]

I wouldn't assume he'd be asking for a lot more money... He seems like a humble kid who is grateful for the opportunity. He's being paid well and unfortunately he won't be drafted. Atleast not how he sits.

That is what I think as well. He seems very aware of what this opportunity means. And if he can lead the offense to a victory at Florida today, he will have done something that many QB's have not been able to do.

 

[37620VOL]

And he was lined up in the neutral zone.

That was on the opposite side of the formation, but absolutely correct

 

[Rocky Top T]

It’s more likely Brandon would leave if GMac won the starting job next year than if Joey won the starting job next year. Brandon sitting for a year, learning, and then being ready to start in 27, makes total sense for him. But if GMac starts in 26, the odds of him losing the job after that are slim because he will then have a season of game experience over Brandon.

Joey coming back makes it less likely, not more likely, that Brandon, transfers. It hurts GMac much more.

I don't know why most think Fazion is going to start over Gmac in 27. I think Gmac will start over him. I don't care about 5 star hype, what they do on the field is what matters

 

[camp_steveo]

JA gets another year as GMac backup/ mentor....

 

[TennEddie]

I would be over joyed at having him return.
From what I’ve have seen, we have nobody behind him on this team
that remotely resembles an SEC QB. We can’t just assume an incoming
freshman will be our savior.

 

[GetEmVols]

This a dumb comment. Merk may not have it but to say he has shown that clearly in live action is just idiotic.

He’s played zero time of significance.

It took 50 minutes against New Mexico State just to get the backups in. Lol

We knew merk didn’t have it before New Mexico State. Look at any game he has played an entire half in and the evidence is clear.

What is idiotic is wanting one of the highest passing yard QBs in TN history to not come back another season. Joey didnt even get a full off season and he is lighting it up.

 

[Godfatha]

No, we'll lose both G Mac and Merk.

GMac needs to hit the weight room. We're going to lose Merk anyway.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

I'm torn on if JUCO should count. I mean you are playing at a different level from D1 but at the same time academic wise, JUCO class credit can go towards your 4 year agree

I am mixed. Should prep schools where you earn college credits count the same? Both are preparatory institutions getting you ready for D1.

Maybe 5 for 5 would be the best option. That would give you a buy 1 get 1 free on Juco. Cut and dried, no need for RS or appeals.

The courts have really messed this up.

 

[Smokymtnbullet]

If Kitselman leaves Joey will be a better QB

 

[Volanta]

Absolutely! Unless we could for sure get Sam Leavitt, that would be the only reason I wouldn't... I'd love to see him in year 2 of the system. Aside from the Int's of late, what he's done in such a short time is really impressive.

That’s my point like how good could this guy be with a full season AND off season under his belt. Look at how electric he’s been with only what 2 months to prep?

 

[volintheham]

I wouldn't assume he'd be asking for a lot more money... He seems like a humble kid who is grateful for the opportunity. He's being paid well and unfortunately he won't be drafted. Atleast not how he sits.

At a minimum, every bit of 2-2.5 mil at least. College is semi-pro and we have to start looking at players not with emotion but as to what the ROI is. He might make a practice squad but is just so reckless with the ball. He could have had a lot more pics early against bad teams as well, at least 4 if not 5 and that equates his TO to TD ratio which is a pure stat vs others.

 

[Volanta]

Dude he helped two QBs who were backups at other schools get drafted to the NFL. The stuff with Nico was Nico holding the team hostage and Heupel said "This isn't going to fly in my locker room. Get lost". Also Heupel recruited Joey Aguilar. He didn't fall into our lap, Heupel recognized qualities in an available quarterback that aligned with his offensive philosophy and recruited him. Everyone here was pissing and moaning that we weren't going after Altmeyer and Becht (EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER ENTERED THE PORTAL!) and were disappointed when we got Joey. You guys can try to rewrite history all you want, but I'm gonna call you out on your BS when I see it. I watch this team and this sport very closely. Heupel is a bonafide quarterback savant, and what he and Joey have put together without a spring practice and replacing 9 starters on offense is truly unbelievable.

That’s a good point. Ppl criticize CJH on stating Milton over Hooker but also don’t consider that Huep found and recruited JA. So does he deserve criticism on his qb evals? At times yes but he also deserves credit.

 

[overseasorange2]

Ok so question to VN- if Joey can come back next year do you want him? I do

You would be surprised the amount of folks here on vn who said they would rather see him walk.

I say let’s ride with Joey for year 2!

Part of me wants him to stay, but only if it doesn't scare of George or Faizon (Although I don't see a freshman playing much). I'm sure Jake would be gone anyway.

 

[volintheham]

That’s my point like how good could this guy be with a full season AND off season under his belt. Look at how electric he’s been with only what 2 months to prep?

The guy is 24, what you see is what you get and the scouting report nailed it. I didn’t see this guy on many people’s radar until our golden boy took off, or at least people still with a job. Simply put, he is mediocre and being carried by his receivers.

 

[deatojl]

That’s a good point. Ppl criticize CJH on stating Milton over Hooker but also don’t consider that Huep found and recruited JA. So does he deserve criticism on his qb evals? At times yes but he also deserves credit.

People also don't seem to understand that, at the start of the 2021 season, Heupel had only been on the job since January. The only measuring stick he had to go by was what he saw in practice as neither player exactly excelled at their previous schools. By all accounts, Milton outperformed Hooker in practice leading up to the season. It is very easy to go back after we see how their careers played out and criticize the decision.

 

[overseasorange2]

The guy is 24, what you see is what you get and the scouting report nailed it. I didn’t see this guy on many people’s radar until our golden boy took off, or at least people still with a job. Simply put, he is mediocre and being carried by his receivers.

Nobody saw Hooker's potential either till JH got hold of him.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It’s not the same and I’m not suggesting that one of our players is like one of the guys in the picture, but you don’t get rid of a sure thing . You do what’s in the best interest of your football team. I don’t want to learn that the hard way .

 

[tennrich1]

I don't know why most think Fazion is going to start over Gmac in 27. I think Gmac will start over him. I don't care about 5 star hype, what they do on the field is what matters

Yeah..I’m with you. Volnation, including me occasionally, has a strong tendency to overrate kids coming in simply by a star beside their name. I hope FB comes in and when it’s his turn is All Sec caliber. BUT…it’s simply unfair to expect him to be ready as a freshman and discounting GMac/Merk so quickly is flaky at best. If JA comes back…we’ll cross all those proverbial unseen bridges then.