President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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swampfoxfan said:
You obviously suffer from TDS trump denial syndrome. Anything orange says or does is acceptable to your kind. As far as debunked orange said it during his first debate with Biden.

Donnie not Biden was sued and paid penalties for discrimination against blacks I'm his apartments.
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This is post further confirms the extent and degree of your obvious TDS disorder.

(Camps are going to be difficult, I can't deny that.)
 
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luthervol said:
I take it that you are actually dumb enough to believe that I thought I was linking the Washington Post.

That's more of a reflection on how you view your own posting and that of your fellow PF posters......
and in that light, your total failure to understand makes at least a little bit of sense.

I've found that people have a tendency to suspect in others the traits they (often subconsciously) find in themselves.
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Wow a twofer reply. LMAO hit close to home huh?
 
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GVF said:
I do like alot of the policy. But, I don't lick his boots. He's very immature. That doesn't prohibit him from getting things done though. He has proven better at putting conflicts abroad to rest better than those before him. Instead of standing at hte podium and saying Just Don't, he actually tries to bring ends to conflicts. He definitely has issues training all his thoughts not to come out. I think his dmoestic economic efforts will pan out for the best if allowed to incubate. Having said that, I think he has become more politician this time around than previous DJT. I don't fault him for all of his political targeting, as he was on the defensive from the get go for jumping ship and stealing HRC's thunder. They created DJT by how they attacked him for leaving that side high and dry.

Agreed on the Epstein saga. Complete mis-handling. Both ways though, as that could have also been handled in the previous admin. The Eptein saga is just throwing stones and passing bucks. That should have never made it back around to his 2nd term. But, there were ice cream cones to conquer.

At the end of the day, just who exactly is good for this country at the moment...from either side.

I'm more in the camp of Rubio and Gabbard. But, I've not seen even a center left Dem probability to entertain.

A lot of my comments/insults are just counters to the TDS comments, as the opposing forces are quite bad, but their supporters here buy into them far far more than i buy into Trump. I'm very aware of my personal opinions on DJT's personality limitations. In kind however, I will not pass to remind those here that spew trump hatred so eloquently that their own house is not even heat tempered glass. Those here dying inside because of unhelathy disdain for DJT fail to see just how awful the highly public figures in their own party really are that they are siding with just to be anti-trump.
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I will agree that he has come through with his border policy, but everything else has been like a 3 ring circus. There is no real economic policy in place.
 
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LouderVol said:
you realize you are using the wrong word right?

Subsidies are when the government GIVES money to a company.

This is a tax incentive, which is the government NOT TAKING as much money from a company.

its still a net gain for the company, but thru two vastly different mechanisms. The subsidy you claim would be the big government option, tax incentives are the small government option. its literally less government involvement in the matter. I guess it really comes down to if there are strings attached, but on its face letting a company keep more of its money is different than the government giving the company someone else's money.
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He’s going “cognitive dissonance” on himself.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I will agree that he has come through with his border policy, but everything else has been like a 3 ring circus. There is no real economic policy in place.
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I can accept that, but it's hard to tell which circus belongs to who, and if everything he was trying to implement wasn't stonewalled, how would it turn out.
 
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The dumbest administration in US history, just keeps one upping itself

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Nursing Excluded as 'Professional' Degree By Department of Education

The Trump administration's "One Big Beautiful Bill" excludes nursing from graduate degree programs deemed as 'professional.' The move impacts loan funding, healthcare delivery, and patient care access.
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GVF said:
I can accept that, but it's hard to tell which circus belongs to who, and if everything he was trying to implement wasn't stonewalled, how would it turn out.
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BBB wasn't stonewalled. Too many unqualified and incompetent clowns in his cabinet, plus the pathetic deference from Johnson and those like him Congress. Having people who are loyal is one thing. Having those who cater to every changing whim is another thing entirely. He needs people who can tell and show him when he is on the wrong path
 
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hog88 said:
Hmm, might just force schools to lower the cost of those graduate degrees.
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Yeah man, I'm sure that's the goal here.

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BernardKingGOAT said:
BBB wasn't stonewalled. Too many unqualified and incompetent clowns in his cabinet, plus the pathetic deference from Johnson and those like him Congress. Having people who are loyal is one thing. Having those who cater to every changing wind is another
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Can't argue that. We were used to that the last 4 years as well, whoever that auto pen answered to. The pattern is quite visible on both sides of the aisle. Neither side is any more or any less prone to the wheat in the wind effect. As evidenced to why it took 14 no's to finally do the right thing. But, to your point specifically in Trump's case, that is a life and career long pattern. And it can be said of anyone at his level of success. There are no 'advisors'. Men like him and Gates, and "insert a name" don't get advised. They fire. By nature, people like that are a little off. It's what got them there atop those huge entities they run.

The observation I find most interesting is that Trump has always been liberal/democrat most his life. Maybe we'd now call it a traditional liberal. He basically still is. He was quite cozy with all his haters. But, he wanted something bigger. Probably bored with that which he already conquered. And he got told it was Hillary's quest. So, he said eff off, I'll show you. Casue that's who he is. And he jumped sides. And the attacks began, cause they knew Hils would need every ill gotten advantage to beat him. Point being had he stayed in his own camp, and came up to PA AVE that way, all these TDS posters in here would be licking his wing tips cause he'd be on their side.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Notice I said "border". That was specificity for a reason. The ICE and NG efforts are a pathetic display of quasi authoritarianism
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I have mixed feelings on that. Maybe the messaging or execution and not the ideology of using them. Afterall, it is the constitutional obligation of the fed to protect it's citizens from both foreign and domestic threats. Regardless of the state one resides, if the state will not uphold it's obligation, you are still a US citizen and under protection of the fed.

Then again it's our own fed the last admin that was also sworn to protect us that traded that obligation for warm bodies for political gain. Gotta clean it up somehow. The thing about correcting wrongs is they always get worse before they get better.
 
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GVF said:
Can't argue that. We were used to that the last 4 years as well, whoever that auto pen answered to. The pattern is quite visible on both sides of the aisle. Neither side is any more or any less prone to the wheat in the wind effect. As evidenced to why it took 14 no's to finally do the right thing. But, to your point specifically in Trump's case, that is a life and career long pattern. And it can be said of anyone at his level of success. There are no 'advisors'. Men like him and Gates, and "insert a name" don't get advised. They fire. By nature, people like that are a little off. It's what got them there atop those huge entities they run.

The observation I find most interesting is that Trump has always been liberal/democrat most his life. Maybe we'd now call it a traditional liberal. He basically still is. He was quite cozy with all his haters. But, he wanted something bigger. Probably bored with that which he already conquered. And he got told it was Hillary's quest. So, he said eff off, I'll show you. Casue that's who he is. And he jumped sides. And the attacks began, cause they knew Hils would need every ill gotten advantage to beat him. Point being had he stayed in his own camp, and came up to PA AVE that way, all these TDS posters in here would be licking his wing tips cause he'd be on their side.
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I think it's certainly more than a remote possibility that when Trump started thinking about running for President, he would have preferred to run as a Democrat had Hillary and Obama not been in the picture. Just my $0.02 opinion
 
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GVF said:
I have mixed feelings on that. Maybe the messaging or execution and not the ideology of using them. Afterall, it is the constitutional obligation of the fed to protect it's citizens from both foreign and domestic threats. Regardless of the state one resides, if the state will not uphold it's obligation, you are still a US citizen and under protection of the fed.

Then again it's our own fed the last admin that was also sworn to protect us that traded that obligation for warm bodies for political gain. Gotta clean it up somehow. The thing about correcting wrongs is they always get worse before they get better.
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Well, because he had as much play in the inflation that ensued, well before Covid, there was no way any economic policy he wanted to implement was going to aid in any downturn of it
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I think it's certainly more than a remote possibility that when Trump started thinking about running for President, he would have preferred to run as a Democrat had Hillary and Obama not been in the picture. Just my $0.02 opinion
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I've always thought that. And I've always thought given the chance to do that from his own camp, he'd have been far more effective and normal. There's no logical way to deny that in spite of everything he has had to endure and fight off from them, he has actually been quite effective. No one but him could have done this under the circumstances he has done it. I don't think he thought they would try to do the things to him that they have attempted. Nothing has stuck, because 99.9% has been false. The epstein saga reamins to be seen. I'm sure he calculated that if he won, they would return to being chummy. BOB & Hils were highly offended and went for blood. But, they knew him and should have expected that when he said he wanted to do it, he really meant he was going to do it.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Well, because he had as much play in the inflation that ensued, well before Covid, there was no way any economic policy he wanted to implement was going to aid in any downturn of it
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All those payouts he did didn't help the economy. That was absolutely a democrat move. No real republican would have ever done stimulus payments. Not with a multi-trillion dollar deficit. Not that the GOP is a whole lot better at financial management, but there is GOP financial management, and there is DNC financial management. The main difference is the GOP spends it fighting wars in places we have no right to be fighting. The DNC machine is good at making it disappear two fold into thin air. That is taxpayer money, and if our government budgeted and stuck to it, and had a surplus, I believe it should go back to whence it came. Budget, stay on budget, return overpayments.
 
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GVF said:
All those payouts he did didn't help the economy. That was absolutely a democrat move. No real republican would have ever done stimulus payments. Not with a multi-trillion dollar deficit. Not that the GOP is a whole lot better at financial management, but there is GOP financial management, and there is DNC financial management. The main difference is the GOP spends it fighting wars in places we have no right to be fighting. The DNC machine is good at making it disappear two fold into thin air. That is taxpayer money, and if our government budgeted and stuck to it, and had a surplus, I believe it should go back to whence it came. Budget, stay on budget, return overpayments.
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His bailout of the soybean farmers and payout to furloughed automotive workers were due to his lack of understanding of tariffs and his incompetent distributive negotiations on tariffs. Nothing about Democratic or Republican strategy on that front. That was dumbed downed real estate Trump ideology
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
His bailout of the soybean farmers and payout to furloughed automotive workers were due to his lack of understanding of tariffs and his incompetent distributive negotiations on tariffs. Nothing about Democratic or Republican strategy on that front. That was dumbed downed real estate Trump ideology
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Are you talking about Trumps first term?
 
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