Unpopular opinion

#1
T

thebane5

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 29, 2010
Messages
100
Likes
132
#1
Love TV as much as the next person, but now that he's taking key staff members with him to Cali, it's beginning to put his departure in a different light. I loved his comments about VFL and not wanting to be Lane Kiffin 2.0, and initially he was leaving the right way. But in my (probably unpopular) opinion, when you start raiding the cupboard and therefore weakening the program for the upcoming season, then VFL credentials can be called into question as a true VFL doesn't harm the program, ever.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Unconditional Surrender, volman128, tbwhhs and 6 others
#2
#2
thebane5 said:
Love TV as much as the next person, but now that he's taking key staff members with him to Cali, it's beginning to put his departure in a different light. I loved his comments about VFL and not wanting to be Lane Kiffin 2.0, and initially he was leaving the right way. But in my (probably unpopular) opinion, when you start raiding the cupboard and therefore weakening the program for the upcoming season, then VFL credentials can be called into question as a true VFL doesn't harm the program, ever.
Click to expand...
Pro ball. Would expect all coaches salaries to be higher.
OTOH, are these guys major league baseball quality? Might be all the money the giants want to spend?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Flogballs and Smokey19rt
#3
#3
thebane5 said:
Love TV as much as the next person, but now that he's taking key staff members with him to Cali, it's beginning to put his departure in a different light. I loved his comments about VFL and not wanting to be Lane Kiffin 2.0, and initially he was leaving the right way. But in my (probably unpopular) opinion, when you start raiding the cupboard and therefore weakening the program for the upcoming season, then VFL credentials can be called into question as a true VFL doesn't harm the program, ever.
Click to expand...
These are grown men making their mind up to leave or stay. You can't blame them for wanting to better their selves in life. They are coaching in the MLB. Thank them for what they did at Tennessee and wish them the best of luck. Do i wish they would of stayed at UT. YES But wish those guys luck and get behind the coaches in baseball that we have.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Al Orange, ATCVolinmn, GUNTERSVOL and 10 others
#7
#7
For me, you have to look at the full cycle of contributions to determine VFL. I'm not sure a one and done can ever be a VFL. But someone who stays the course and makes a difference, which I think all of these guys did. But I somewhat have an outsider view. I also think he earned the right to take them because he brought them. He did not steal them. I also believe that behind the scenes most knew what was happening and they stayed for a purpose and that was accomplished. Now they are leaving.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cpavol, VolsLFC, Maxwell865 and 13 others
#9
#9
Based on what we know, Q and Frank were likely on their way out soon (next couple of years at least), regardless of the recent events. Q was apparently looking for a role away from the day-to-day grind, and Frank was approaching retirement within the next couple of years.

Tony also has the fundamental right to assemble his ideal staff. It's now his job to surround himself with the best, most trusted people for the job with the Giants.

Does this situation sting? Yes, it does. However, these changes felt inevitable down the line. This now allows Josh to step out from under Tony's leadership and establish his own team/staff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlackLabelVols, Cosmo Kramer, knoxvol52 and 5 others
#10
#10
In any profession, it is completely justified to bring their staff with them. I’d say it’s a sign of loyalty and respect and appreciation to the ones who have been with you on the journey. They are his team. I’m disappointed that CTV is gone, but to me he will always be a VFL as well as his staff that brought us so much joy. Good luck to them and good luck to our new skipper.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Al Orange, tennrich1, KHVol and 7 others
#11
#11
I think Tony’s ability to evaluate talent not only goes for players but also coaches , we’re gonna miss Frank and Q but after 8 seasons there’s no doubt the success and knowledge our coaches that are staying have gained should be ready to step in and take over , my biggest concern today is can our young unproven staff have enough success to continue this incredible run of elite results of recruiting and wins on the diamond , if we can continue to recruit elite players we’ll continue see a top 5 national program with annual Omaha expectations, I’m 100% behind Elander and the program
 
  • Like
Reactions: KHVol, KptVFL, chuckiepoo and 1 other person
#12
#12
I think a VFL is what each fan decides for himself or herself what it means personally. For me, I have no defining limitations as to who is or isn’t a VFL. In my book, Dalton Knecht is a VFL because he brought such tremendous joy to me in how I was able to enjoy basketball. He did things I hadn’t seen done in decades as far as his diversity and production goes. Tony brought a healing that transcends more than what anyone has done in any sport in decades. He revived Tennessee baseball to a quite miraculous recovery, and consequently, to greatness.

I don‘t like losing Q and Frank, but in all walks of life high achievers utilize their past relationships to fortify success moving into the future.
 
  • Like
Reactions: volfan__18, taylorvol, Vol4life2 and 4 others
#14
#14
The Original Fade said:
VFL is an outdated and useless term in the portal era
Click to expand...
Agree, the portal is just part of it. My thoughts on VFL are alumni who promote the university after leaving. Contribute to the university / community by returning to help needy causes. Raising money for the sports programs or university.
overall stays connected to the school and has pride that they were there and not just for a payday. Some may only be there a year, others 4 or 5. Some may come for the money but realize it became a home.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JarFly, chuckiepoo and The Original Fade
#18
#18
thebane5 said:
Love TV as much as the next person, but now that he's taking key staff members with him to Cali, it's beginning to put his departure in a different light. I loved his comments about VFL and not wanting to be Lane Kiffin 2.0, and initially he was leaving the right way. But in my (probably unpopular) opinion, when you start raiding the cupboard and therefore weakening the program for the upcoming season, then VFL credentials can be called into question as a true VFL doesn't harm the program, ever.
Click to expand...

Frank and Q would've never been in Knoxville if it weren't for TV. Plus, I'm sure that when we hire new head coaches, we expect them to be able to bring any coaches with them that would be beneficial.
 
  • Like
Reactions: WallyBalls, KptVFL, tennrich1 and 3 others
#19
#19
GrayWaterCanine said:
By all reports, Vitello took a pay cut. I wouldn't assume MLB pay is always better.
Click to expand...
From AI Overview:
“Tony Vitello's reported annual salary as the new SF Giants manager is $3.5 million on a three-year contract. This figure is higher than his previous salary of $3.3 million annually at Tennessee.”
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Al Orange, Tenacjim and chuckiepoo
#22
#22
I agree with you. I don't hate TV, love his contributions to us.

But I'm not worshipping the ground he walks on or acting like he didn't shaft us a bit.

And I'd wager money he won't be the SF manager in 2029. The show is appealing, but it's also an absolute meat grinder.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tbwhhs
#25
#25
Go aeiou said:
Pro ball. Would expect all coaches salaries to be higher.
OTOH, are these guys major league baseball quality? Might be all the money the giants want to spend?
Click to expand...
Why would you expect that? Tony was making more than 70% of MLB coaches when he was here. Frank isn’t going to be the pitching coach. Coach Q already tried the pros once and left.
 
New Posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

Advertisement



Back
Top