Israel vs Palestinians II

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EasternVol said:
As I understand it, the conflict in Sudan is between the government and splinter group RSF. Both are Muslim and the many civilian casualties are Muslim. Almost the entire population in the conflict area is Muslim. The RSF's a nasty bunch and the government forces are pretty terrible too. There's a lot of gold at stake so there are probably foreign players. Where does religion factor in though, much less holy war?
I'm not familiar with conflicts in the other places mentioned. What are good sources to get up to speed?
edit- There are resolutions and sanctions on Sudan, and the head of the UN's been calling for.action. It looks like no member states have pushed for real action lately though.
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Christians are a small minority in Sudan, the Christians there are caught in the middle of this war, as is everyone else but their churches are being destroyed or damaged, they've been targeted because of their faith as have tribes that follow traditional African shamanic religions

The images coming out of Nigeria are awful. The stories and reports I've read estimate anywhere between 50k and 500k have been killed this year. Mass graves, have been documented. Many missing.

There are other conflicts but those are the two biggest flash points.

Sorry it took so long to reply, been out of pocket car shopping for my wife. She has her car totaled this isn't Monday.
 
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KB5252 said:
Christians are a small minority in Sudan, the Christians there are caught in the middle of this war, as is everyone else but their churches are being destroyed or damaged, they've been targeted because of their faith as have tribes that follow traditional African shamanic religions
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So a war between two Muslim factions is a holy war against Christians? What sets attacks on Christian civilians apart from attacks on Muslim civilians?
KB5252 said:
The images coming out of Nigeria are awful. The stories and reports I've read estimate anywhere between 50k and 500k have been killed this year. Mass graves, have been documented. Many missing.
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Aren't the majority of the victims there Muslim?
KB5252 said:
There are other conflicts but those are the two biggest flash points.

Sorry it took so long to reply, been out of pocket car shopping for my wife. She has her car totaled this isn't Monday.
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Good luck in finding a good car.
 
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Anyone else see the irony?

🕌 Jews are trying to take over the world.
🕍 By living in our homeland?

🕌 You will be erased.
🕍 Like globalizing the intifada?

🕌 Soon everyone will live under Sharia Law.
🕍 Like trying to take over the world?
 
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EasternVol said:
So a war between two Muslim factions is a holy war against Christians? What sets attacks on Christian civilians apart from attacks on Muslim civilians?

Aren't the majority of the victims there Muslim?

Good luck in finding a good car.
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No, the they Muslim factions target z Christians with impunity as there is no one to stop them.

Boko Haram and ISWAP in the north have killed or displaced the Christians there, most moved to the Central areas but new groups have emerged there, the Fulani ethnic group of Muslims have been responsible for more than half of all Christians killed in that 5 years.

More Christians are targeted than Muslims by far. This is contested the Nigerian government but according to organizations looking at statistics you are 6 times more likely to be killed and 5 times more likely to go missing if you are a Christian in Nigeria. The truth is more Christians are being targeted there than anyone. The South is the safest place for Christians but violence against them in places like Lagos that were considered mostly safe until fairly recently.

These groups are largely funded by rich oil moguls from the Gulf states and the usual nations like Qatar and Iran.

We found her something, we actually upgraded her with the insurance payout.
 
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EasternVol said:
I don't support hamas. You lying about it doesn't make it so.
OTOH, you support bibi and he supports hamas, so hey look at that, you support hamas. What a hypocrite.
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The Senior Policy Advisor to Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres agrees with you, that Netanyahu supported Hamas. Imagine being a Netanyahu supporter and calling anyone else a Hamas supporter. 😅

 
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SquirrelOrange3 said:
The most iconic Zionists, Theodor Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, and Golda Meir, didn't even believe in the Bible. No Zionists truly do or they wouldn't feel the desperate need to rely on tax dollars paid by Shaquanda Tucker in Jackson, Mississippi. 😅

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The question isn’t whether THEY believed the Bible. The important thing is if YOU believe the Bible and the promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Promises that are unconditional and eternal BTW.
 
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SquirrelOrange3 said:
One side: Netanyahu and his client organization Hamas, and their allies.

The other side: Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos and likeminded people.

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2 sides.
Israel and Gaza.
That’s it.
I lost a large amount of my family tree in the holocaust. there is a massive majority of holocaust survivors in and supporting Israel.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Lmao, I was even more correct than I realized at the time
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You’re the one trying to frame a bull **** argument of guilt and innocence. My stance has been exactly the same since the beginning of the first thread. It’s not my fault you are an incapable of understanding what you read.

Gaza/hamas is responsible for their citizens and their actions on behalf of those citizens. Israel is responsible for theirs. As I said at the very beginning.

If Gaza refuses to release hostages and hides behind their civilian population during a war then the death that occurs in Gaza is the fault/responsibility of Gaza/Hamas. Just like I said from the very beginning of this war.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You’re the one trying to frame a bull **** argument of guilt and innocence. My stance has been exactly the same since the beginning of the first thread. It’s not my fault you are an incapable of understanding what you read.

Gaza/hamas is responsible for their citizens and their actions on behalf of those citizens. Israel is responsible for theirs. As I said at the very beginning.

If Gaza refuses to release hostages and hides behind their civilian population during a war then the death that occurs in Gaza is the fault/responsibility of Gaza/Hamas. Just like I said from the very beginning of this war.
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Listen to Palestinian civilians. If they have no regrets why should we have any sympathy? Clearly this is what they wanted .

 
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