Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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volfanhill said:
Dumb and lazy. Protect the kids is the lefts scream about the 2A. Won't someone think of the children is the laziest argument on earth. And the left are the kings of it. See Covid
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I agree it is extremely lazy, and the right has used it against basically every minority on Earth, most recently trans people for no reason and Zohran for no reason
 
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MontyPython said:
So your stance is f*** people who can't afford or qualify (e.g. pre-existing conditions) for non-ACA health care.

As a small business owner, I personally *need* the ACA program. Don't even want to look at how much my health care premiums will skyrocket in 2026. But, you... Tell us details about your health care, how you qualify for it (e.g. employer-provided), your deductible and how much you pay per month.
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The ACA did nothing but jack up premiums, as a small business owner who had coverage on all my employees and their families before the ACA I can say that. After ACA the premiums went up before the end of that year and again after the first of that following year. We had to slowly drop coverage from "your whole family" to just you and eventually "hey this **** is getting ridiculous we'll stipend you X dollars and you get your own"

Yea it's been a GREAT plan sir, it's been the most detrimental thing to insurance since "insurance".

Again, it went from being a car payment to a mortgage payment, with a $6k deductible...........glad you're happy with it.

I'll also say both sides are guilty of taking bribes, kickbacks, lobbing money, whatever you want to call it from Big Pharma and HealthCare.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I agree it is extremely lazy, and the right has used it against basically every minority on Earth, most recently trans people for no reason and Zohran for no reason
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OMG, it's amazing how the Republicans have held back every minority on Earth.......

Nobody paid any attention to Trans people until the whole bathroom, I want to compete in women's sports etc. and wanted to start kids on meds..... yes KIDS and you know this.

Zohran, only time will tell, glad I don't live in NYC.
 
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Cod said:
OMG, it's amazing how the Republicans have held back every minority on Earth.......

Nobody paid any attention to Trans people until the whole bathroom, I want to compete in women's sports etc. and wanted to start kids on meds..... yes KIDS and you know this.

Zohran, only time will tell, glad I don't live in NYC.
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That isn't what I said, and I didn't ask for your random thoughts on those topics. "Protect the poor women and children" is why Emmett Till was killed, why people didn't want gays or lesbians to be teachers, why the right called every trans person a "pedo" for like 6 months and then moved on, etc.
 
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volfanhill said:
Why is Trump trying to stop it? This is getting more foul by the day
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It was the Dems that stopped it yesterday. The emails the Dems released had NOTHING incriminating about Trump but they released them anyway knowing it would stir up the conspiracy theorists who have nothing In their life to do but post and repost it on social media.



grok:
  • No Direct Evidence of Abuse: The released Epstein emails contain no evidence that President Trump abused underage girls or committed related crimes; all references are unsubstantiated claims by Epstein himself.

  • Epstein's Claims of Knowledge: Epstein alleged in a 2019 email that Trump "knew about the girls" and asked Ghislaine Maxwell to "stop," referencing their Mar-a-Lago fallout, but no corroborating proof exists.
  • Victim Associations: A 2011 email notes victim Virginia Giuffre (redacted) "spent hours" with Trump at Epstein's house, but Giuffre publicly stated Trump was "friendlier" and uninvolved in wrongdoing.
  • Dropped Lawsuit: Epstein tracked a 2016 anonymous lawsuit alleging Trump and Epstein raped a 13-year-old in the 1990s, but the plaintiff dropped it without evidence emerging.

  • Other Mentions: Epstein offered unverified photos of Trump with "girls in bikinis" (ages unspecified) and strategized PR around their association, but nothing indicates criminality.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Where are you getting this? I have seen the claim by the FOS Trump admin that it's VG whose name was redacted, but as far as I've seen, this is not independently verified. Link, please.
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@n_huffhines

It was in the original article that Luther posted, that apparently literally no one read. I pointed it out in one of my posts, which apparently got ignored too.

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abcnews.go.com

House Democrats release new Epstein emails referencing Trump

Jeffrey Epstein told Ghislaine Maxwell that an alleged victim had "spent hours at my house" with Donald Trump, according to emails released by Democrats on Wednesday.
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"The full context of these email exchanges is not clear from the portions released by the committee Democrats. "

"The email with Giuffre's name unredacted was provided to ABC News by Republicans on the House Oversight Committee."
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
I have no problem with what ever happens when or if the files are released.
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I don't think you understand what that could mean worse case scenario. If real power players go scorched Earth with nothing to lose it could be the begining of the end of this country.

And I'm not saying ignore this to prop up what we have going. Just stating that I believe the worst case scenario has implications beyond what you may be considering.
 
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MontyPython said:
Trump is destroying Obama's keystone ACA program, yet there is no rebuild. Trump has no plan whatsoever.
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why would you rebuild something that was intentionally flawed from the start, has caused nothing but problems from its very inception, and is doomed to fail no matter what catchy name is slapped on it?

you don't rebuild a condemned building. you knock it down. Even an empty lot is the better option than a dangerous building.
 
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Majors said:
January 2019, Trump knew about the girls and asked Maxwell to stop.

Weird that these old emails don’t match up to Maxwells recent testimony.
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so we believe one pedophile telling his side of the story to an author who had the ability to influence his PR, over another pedophile telling her side of the story to admin with the ability to influence her reality.
 
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LouderVol said:
so we believe one pedophile telling his side of the story to an author who had the ability to influence his PR, over another pedophile telling her side of the story to admin with the ability to influence her reality.
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However you need to spin it. The left is going with “mentions” over being able to prove involvement.

Many here including myself have said burn it down and show it all. If they included Trump then let the law take over.
 
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Majors said:
However you need to spin it. The left is going with “mentions” over being able to prove involvement.

Many here including myself have said burn it down and show it all. If they included Trump then let the law take over.
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I think this release will be like the JFK file release...it'll have so much redacted it'll be a big nothing burger
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s quite entertaining watching the left try to locate an issue to run on.

It looks like Epstein and insurance for 2026. Good luck
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Clockwork. The left kissed the ring of Trump and now they need to release something Epstein related to distract from their recent failure of the shutdown.
 
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allstar34bd said:
Both parties are involved in the files and the ultimate reason it hasn’t been released is because they all would go down.

We are Israel’s Sugardaddy because they have the files as well.
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I think Israel has the files bc they’re the ones that created the entire situation. I think they created Epstein and Mossad ran him. I’ve listened to a lot of intelligence people talk about this and they all make a very compelling and convincing case for this being Mossad.
 
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