President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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LSU-SIU said:
I would say if you want the honest truth, its moot. It raises the potential amount the plan buyer has to pay in taxes, in theory. They are the ones playing for it.

All you are doing is moving "plans" onto people that can't pay, and taxpayers that are paying. Its a scam.
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Lol it's suddenly "moot" because you didn't even know what you were arguing when you responded.
 
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if you are below the FPL, you already have free health insurance. and subsidies only increase as your income..but no, that aint good enough.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol it's suddenly "moot" because you didn't even know what you were arguing when you responded.
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I would say you appear to be setting up a strawman if I were very truthful. The lie was that it would lower those other premiums, it never did and never will as it has nothing to do with it. So, you are asking is in a context of a strawman. No, it won't increase them now because it really was never meant to lower them to begin with, the lie. Its a pure scam.

The mandate served two purposes, increase people in the system so they could extract more, and keep the money flow with government paying the bills.

It isn't going to increase those premiums, its just the realization that they never lower them to start with.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I would say you appear to be setting up a strawman if I were very truthful. The lie was that it would lower those other premiums, it never did and never will as it has nothing to do with it. So, you are asking is in a context of a strawman. No, it won't increase them now because it really was never meant to lower them to begin with, the lie. Its a pure scam.
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I would say that you are scrambling to save face because you can't admit that you responded post without even knowing what you were responding to.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I would say that you are scrambling to save face because you can't admit that you responded post without even knowing what you were responding to.
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You are setting up a strawman. I would say you are right, the premiums have very little to do with it, but you left out the why i.e. context. Those people paying those premiums are in fact paying more i.e. taxes in theory or tax debt burden.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You are setting up a strawman. I would say you are right, the premiums have very little to do with it, but you left out the why i.e. context. Those people paying those premiums are in fact paying more i.e. taxes in theory or tax debt burden.
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Jesus effing christ, you just keep digging the hole deeper with every post.

Lol he didn't say anything about taxes, he said the premiums for non-ACA market place policies increased because of ACA subsidies on ACA marketplace policies; you can't pivot your way out of this.
 
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I hate to break it to you guys but the ACA is the least of of the scam of what the health industry is involved with, this is everything from local and state government, to RICO violations and anti-trust.

The ACA is just the realization that its just another scam and you live in a corrupt place.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Jesus effing christ, you just keep digging the hole deeper with every post.

Lol he didn't say anything about taxes, he said the premiums for non-ACA market place policies increased because of ACA subsidies on ACA marketplace policies; you can't pivot your way out of this.
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I never said he said that, I said it. You didn't provide that context. The non-ACA market place is just its own little scam. The ACA is just the part where we get more government money to fund the scam.

So, you are correct on that, but you are not providing the context - they're both scams... one just provides more government funding for the scam.

The ACA doesn't directly effect the non-ACA plan, but it does increase the cost for everyone indirectly.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I never said he said that, I said it. You didn't provide that context. The non-ACA market place is just its own little scam. The ACA is just the part where we get more government money to fund the scam.

So, you are correct on that, but you are not providing the context - they're both scams... one just provides more government funding for the scam.

The ACA doesn't directly effect the non-ACA plan, but it does increase the cost for everyone indirectly.
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Lol there is no context, other than the fact that you didn't know the context of the discussion you tried to butt into, but didn't bother to actually read the discussion before doing so.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol there is no context, other than the fact that you didn't know the context of the discussion you tried to butt into, but didn't bother to actually read the discussion before doing so.
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Sure I did, I actually agreed with you absent context. You just apparently don't like it.
 
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Lol. Welfare King. "If I call it a dividend people won't think its a government handout"

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President Trump promises $2,000 tariff dividend to every person in America: ‘People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS!’

The post comes after the Supreme Court questioned the legality of his use of emergency powers to impose sweeping new tariffs on nearly every country on Earth.
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The president added that the tariffs have brought in “trillions of dollars” and that 401(k) accounts are the “Highest EVER”. He also claimed there was “No Inflation” from the duties.

Dudes more insane than Biden.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Lol. Welfare King. "If I call it a dividend people won't think its a government handout"

nypost.com

President Trump promises $2,000 tariff dividend to every person in America: ‘People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS!’

The post comes after the Supreme Court questioned the legality of his use of emergency powers to impose sweeping new tariffs on nearly every country on Earth.
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The president added that the tariffs have brought in “trillions of dollars” and that 401(k) accounts are the “Highest EVER”. He also claimed there was “No Inflation” from the duties.

Dudes more insane than Biden.
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Pretty sure Trump is right about 401k...

For the rest of it, Trump's fullofshit...
 
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swampfoxfan said:
You hate poor Americans having access to healthcare, most of us don't.
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Thanks for putting words in my mouth. OF course I was addressing the horrible legislation that Barry Soetoro and the democrats rammed down the American peoples' throats. So tell me, if it was so great, why does it need subsidies?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Nope. I'm not onboard with ****** healthcare for everybody at all.
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Why? In the greatest country in the world, healthcare should be a human right. We are all paying out the ass for insurance, at least with universal healthcare we'd still pay out the ass but not have to live in our cars or die if we get cancer.
 
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