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#76
#76
No one doubts Heupel’s ability to move the football but coach’s are ultimately judged on wins and losses. Nothing else.
 
#78
#78
Man our fans are like sheep. You have one or two absolutely clueless fans on twitter saying, “It’s time to have a conversation about Heupel” and now you have what feels like 1000 more saying the same words followed by something that displays their lack of football knowledge. I understand a rabid fanbase means rabid fans, but I’m jus gonna say it, if our fanbase injects themselves enough to fire Heupel or inspire him to leave to greener pastures (90% of teams would take him), I think I’d be done with Tennessee football for a long time. All the postering earlier in the year about the guy standing on his principles the with Nico situation and going 8-4 would be fine this year was just nonsense. I guess a lot of people owe Urban Meyer an apology huh? Same people who were angry at Danny White about Vitello BEING THE ONLY COLLEGE COACH IN HISTORY TO TAKE AN MLB JOB. WOW. JUST WOW.
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
Uh. This guy lost me when he opened up by saying we have been the laughing stock of the SEC since 2000.
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That's not what he said.

Whether hes a Georgia Homer or not hes right.

These boneheads in this forum that are done with Heupel just want to cry and moan. Some have been asked who they'd hire to replace him and all Ive seen is "Me". Same BS with Butch. "My grandma could coach better, anyone would be better". What happened?

My point? They don't want to discuss it they just want to complain. Find one making a good case for a realistic replacement and Ill listen.

Some good programs out there looking for the next Saban. How many Sabans are there? Im not saying you cant fire Heupel, I wouldn't, but Im saying if you're gonna do it you better have a damn good plan and it seems nobody on this forum has one. Just fire him and throw a dart. Great plan.
 
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#80
Don’t post that kind of crap on here the guy probably didn’t even graduate college.
 
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OrangeMoundTNVol said:
A kid, who hasn’t played a ton of ball, made a mistake whoopty do. Sham had been getting punked before David came back. Now Perry looked elite at RT, I’ll give you that. But Sham next to Pendleton was cash money for the defense.
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That was a question I had. When did Moe go out? Didn’t see him at all in the second half and I never heard it discussed. Certainly one of the leaders on the line. He is probably the best lineman we have and you are correct. Sham and Pendleton were getting killed.
 
#83
#83
I will forever wonder what Sanders was thinking on that play. Either complete brain fart or maybe he thought the play action was his way (it went to the left) so he had RB help. Either way, Sanders' primary responsibility is the DE. That's just basic pop warner level x's and o's. Even in flag football, the RT blocks the DE.

I think the most frustrating thing about this year is we are literally 1 or maybe 2 catastrophic plays in each of the 3 L's from potentially being undefeated. Even with all of the poor defensive play, boneheaded play calling, clock mismanagement, and untimely turnovers, we are pretty close to being a very good team. Gotta keep Heuepel until things got a lot further south, but he definitely needs to re-evaluate some things, starting with himself.
 
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#84
#84
people keep shaming our defense but by God our offense has lost us 2 games now by being completely inept. you can't blame Banks.

first it's all the dropped passes, my god all the dropped passes right on the hands.

if it's not the dropped passes then our QB throws the ball right to the defense.

if it's not the interceptions then it's missed assignments on the line causing catastrophic fumbles.

if it's not all that then it's our kicker failing to execute in the greatest time of need.

that's all entirely on Heupel's side of the ball.

at least Banks has the excuse that he has had so many good players injured this year.
 
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drcanderson said:
I will forever wonder what Sanders was thinking on that play. Either complete brain fart or maybe he thought the play action was his way (it went to the left) so he had RB help. Either way, Sanders' primary responsibility is the DE. That's just basic x's and o's.

I think the most frustrating thing about this year is we are literally 1 or maybe 2 catastrophic plays in each of the 3 L's from potentially being undefeated. Even with all of the poor defensive play, boneheaded play calling, clock mismanagement, and untimely turnovers, we are pretty close to being a very good team. Gotta keep Heuepel until things got a lot further south, but he definitely needs to re-evaluate some things, starting with himself.
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It’s hard to assess because we don’t know assignments. The play is RPO so he might have a run lane he has to keep, etc.

But I suspect it’s a bust.

Playing OL is mentally hard. The defense wants to confuse OL by coming at them from weird angles and at different times. It’s also physically demanding. They have to block some of the craziest athletes in the sport—people who can beat you with speed or power. On top of that, you are playing within an assignment and sometimes the defense has you outnumbered so you can’t block everybody. Doing a good job requires incredible attention to detail on things like leverage and hand positioning.

For all that, there are times when a player just has to be a player. If a guy comes free or your assignment goes away, just block somebody. I think it’s hard for a freshman to know when to stay within the play and when to ad lib.

Or maybe he just made a mistake. No way to tell.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
people keep shaming our defense but by God our offense has lost us 2 games now by being completely inept. you can't blame Banks.

first it's all the dropped passes, my god all the dropped passes right on the hands.

if it's not the dropped passes then our QB throws the ball right to the defense.

if it's not the interceptions then it's missed assignments on the line causing catastrophic fumbles.

if it's not all that then it's our kicker failing to execute in the greatest time of need.

that's all entirely on Heupel's side of the ball.

at least Banks has the excuse that he has had so many good players injured this year.
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We have a top 5 D1 passer who just got here 4 months ago and last I checked up there in scoring as well, with new WRs, 4 new OL. Some credit has to be given as well as criticism.
 
#87
#87
100%. We have a good coach people. If he can win 9-10 games per year in the SEC then take the advice he spoke and "Shut-up"
Like it or not Tennessee is better off than they have been at anypoint in the last two decades and even better, the coach is maintaining success. That matters more than having some success.
 
#89
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UTFranklinVol said:
people keep shaming our defense but by God our offense has lost us 2 games now by being completely inept. you can't blame Banks.

first it's all the dropped passes, my god all the dropped passes right on the hands.

if it's not the dropped passes then our QB throws the ball right to the defense.

if it's not the interceptions then it's missed assignments on the line causing catastrophic fumbles.

if it's not all that then it's our kicker failing to execute in the greatest time of need.

that's all entirely on Heupel's side of the ball.

at least Banks has the excuse that he has had so many good players injured this year.
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And one face mask.
 
#90
#90
Skooter said:
We have a top 5 D1 passer who just got here 4 months ago and last I checked up there in scoring as well, with new WRs, 4 new OL. Some credit has to be given as well as criticism.
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I used to feel this way but now I suspect all these great passing numbers are due entirely to our extraordinarily weak schedule.

the pressure was turned up on this team 3 times this year and all four tires on the bus blew out in each of those attempts at facing down tougher teams.

being able to run up the score against cupcake OOC and bottom feeder SEC teams put a false narrative on the quality of the team which has now been completely exposed.

I don't like it but it's true and the thing is this opportunity to run up numbers is going away in the new SEC next year.

but I'm sure next year people will parrot " we are young and we have a new starting QB" etc etc. it's the same old thing here on Volnation. there's always conveniently an excuse for failure. just pick a new excuse out of the hat on your way through the door
 
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bpalmer28 said:
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It is unbelievable how fast some of our fans want to run back to mediocrity. Everyone is griping and not one of the negavols has pointed to a realistic scenario where we improve by moving on from CJH. Not one.

Who would come in here and do better? Nobody.

We would lose recruits, go backwards as a team and the same ignorant lot would be yelling for the next persons head.

The vocal minority here act like petulant children when we lose. It’s embarrassing and ignorant to today’s reality. Starting multiple freshman, injuries to key players (during the game too!), some bad decisions and missed assignments. Yeah, it wasn’t perfect but we fought our butts off until the final whistle.

We are a FG away from beating UGA and not having this conversation. The defense improved drastically in the first half until injuries impacted us.

Are there areas to improve on? Absolutely. Are these fixable? 100% welcome to college athletics.

Here’s a thought. Be grateful we aren’t happy just being bowl eligible with an idiot running the program as was the case until DW and CJH got here. We are on the rise and if you don’t see that I don’t know what to tell you.
 
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Behr said:
That's not what he said.

Whether hes a Georgia Homer or not hes right.

These boneheads in this forum that are done with Heupel just want to cry and moan. Some have been asked who they'd hire to replace him and all Ive seen is "Me". Same BS with Butch. "My grandma could coach better, anyone would be better". What happened?

My point? They don't want to discuss it they just want to complain. Find one making a good case for a realistic replacement and Ill listen.

Some good programs out there looking for the next Saban. How many Sabans are there? Im not saying you cant fire Heupel, I wouldn't, but Im saying if you're gonna do it you better have a damn good plan and it seems nobody on this forum has one. Just fire him and throw a dart. Great plan.
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So we should have kept Butch? Is that what you’re saying? We have an actual AD now… he’s improved everything across the board. I’m much more confident in our ability to make a hiring upgrade with Danny White than I was with the Schiano/Pruitt/Fulmer/Currie fiasco. Is it a guarantee? No, nothing is a guarantee, ever. But you have to take some chances in life to improve. I’m not saying we’re there yet with Heupel, but he’s going to need to change dramatically in some different areas and few people are able to do that in their mid 40s in any career. I personally think the writing is on the wall, but I would give him another year at the very least. Either way, we can’t be afraid to make a change when/if that time comes… yeah we might go back to 7-5 or 6-6 type seasons … or we may hire the next “dude” in college football. UT is a top 10 job in the sport, and we need to act like it.
 
#93
#93
Syracuse wasn’t a bad team. Ga wasn’t a cupcake. JA threw for 650 5/2 vs Bama/ga and accounted for 5 tds v Ga where we had an 8 pt lead with 2 left. He didn’t just rack up stats on cupcakes.
 
#94
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vavolfan6 said:
Brooks sees it very clearly in the film. Heupel is an offensive mastermind who creates all sorts of opportunities for his players to succeed. They just need to execute. The careless INTs, unfortunate fumbles, missed kicks, dumb penalties, is a lack of execution. They are correctable. But replacing one of the best offensive playcallers in college football is not a path anyone wants to go down. We really need to shame the idiots who think otherwise.
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I’m not onboard for firing the guy like some, but I wouldn’t go that far. He has become rather predictable. Waiting to see some creativity.

I agree on the execution piece, but that really goes back to discipline, which is on the coach as well.
 
#95
#95
Behr said:
That's not what he said.

Whether hes a Georgia Homer or not hes right.

These boneheads in this forum that are done with Heupel just want to cry and moan. Some have been asked who they'd hire to replace him and all Ive seen is "Me". Same BS with Butch. "My grandma could coach better, anyone would be better". What happened?

My point? They don't want to discuss it they just want to complain. Find one making a good case for a realistic replacement and Ill listen.

Some good programs out there looking for the next Saban. How many Sabans are there? Im not saying you cant fire Heupel, I wouldn't, but Im saying if you're gonna do it you better have a damn good plan and it seems nobody on this forum has one. Just fire him and throw a dart. Great plan.
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Behr don’t give them facts or history some won’t understand I believe it’s just what this instant gratification society demands. For gods sake he has brought Tennessee back from the dead..
now we have LSU fans talking about how great he is and how they would love to have him..

When can Tennessee fans be appreciative to what we have ever.. I understand somewhat of not being tolerable to something’s that’s happening during the game but cmon man we gonna run this dude off..
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
Beef up the defense in the offseason.
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They will go in the portal for some answers. Heupel has recruited defense heavily since he’s been here. Some left, some got hurt, some aren’t good enough yet. 3 returning starters in the secondary this year have vanished (2 injured, Boo MIA). Arion Carter is a shell of himself. DL does miss Pearce’s explosiveness & big bodies from LY in the middle.
 
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if you look at our history as fans and a program, we hold on to football coaches until they completely run us into the ground without any hope of rebuilding within a year or two.

like it or not, it is COMPLETELY possible that this team loses to Florida and Vanderbilt and then loses a bowl game and finishes WITH THE EXACT SAME RECORD as Huepel's first year when the program (by all accounts) was in a complete shambles.

to me it's beginning to smell exactly like 2016 all over again.

I'll leave you with two thoughts.

1. LSU just paid a coach with a .700 record, two back-to-back 10 win seasons and a trip to the SECCG to walk away. Apparently this was so unacceptable that the F#CKING GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA stepped in and said enough is enough and had the AD fired for hiring Kelly to begin with. So pardon me but who TF on this message board is going to come at me saying Tennessee fans are petulant children?? who can say that without losing all credibility? nobody, that's who. the fans of winning programs like Bama and LSU will cry and whine way worse than Tennessee and they will win as a result.

2. Now for the "oh yeah well who would you replace Heupel with" crowd. well I would politely point out that I'm not the one being paid millions of dollars to decide who that is. But I can say that Jimbo Fisher was paid a record amount of money to walk away from TAMU and who did they replace him with? A guy who went 7-5 at Duke and had only 2 years of head coaching experience. And guess who is 8-0 and going to the CFP???

Need a second example? How about Vanderbilt, a team that has for 100 years been in rebuilding mode and has never had a recruiting class anywhere near the worst class UT has ever had, hired a nobody head coach with 0 years of head coaching experience and who will be going to the CFP if they manage to beat UT.

and both of those coaches are doing it in the mighty SEC, not the weak B10 or ACC.
 
#98
#98
Jimmyandjoes said:
Unfortunately, In today's society,shame and ignorance seem to be a badge of honor. It's seen as a flex when it used to be ridiculed and derided for the utter stupidity.
We,as a society, have lost the ability to tell stupid people they are stupid.
We're living in the age of dunning kruger
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The ability to call a stupid person stupid is still available. It’s just limited in it’s usefulness without some sort of consequence and the absence of reward for being stupid.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
if you look at our history as fans and a program, we hold on to football coaches until they completely run us into the ground without any hope of rebuilding within a year or two.

like it or not, it is COMPLETELY possible that this team loses to Florida and Vanderbilt and then loses a bowl game and finishes WITH THE EXACT SAME RECORD as Huepel's first year when the program (by all accounts) was in a complete shambles.

to me it's beginning to smell exactly like 2016 all over again.

I'll leave you with two thoughts.

1. LSU just paid a coach with a .700 record, two back-to-back 10 win seasons and a trip to the SECCG to walk away. Apparently this was so unacceptable that the F#CKING GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA stepped in and said enough is enough and had the AD fired for hiring Kelly to begin with. So pardon me but who TF on this message board is going to come at me saying Tennessee fans are petulant children?? who can say that without losing all credibility? nobody, that's who. the fans of winning programs like Bama and LSU will cry and whine way worse than Tennessee and they will win as a result.

2. Now for the "oh yeah well who would you replace Heupel with" crowd. well I would politely point out that I'm not the one being paid millions of dollars to decide who that is. But I can say that Jimbo Fisher was paid a record amount of money to walk away from TAMU and who did they replace him with? A guy who went 7-5 at Duke and had only 2 years of head coaching experience. And guess who is 8-0 and going to the CFP???

Need a second example? How about Vanderbilt, a team that has for 100 years been in rebuilding mode and has never had a recruiting class anywhere near the worst class UT has ever had, hired a nobody head coach with 0 years of head coaching experience and who will be going to the CFP if they manage to beat UT.

and both of those coaches are doing it in the mighty SEC, not the weak B10 or ACC.
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No doubt Tennessee would replace Heupel with today’s version of Derek Dooley, Butch Jones or Jeremy Pruitt.

This is the first year outta 5 I’ve been disappointed in the coaching performance. The other 4 I think frankly the team overachieved. Mark it up as a rebuild & see what changes JH makes next year.
 
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