Ruby Whitehorn dismissed from the team!

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lvocd said:
I see what you are getting at, but frankly, I'd rather avoid a situation where Kim could end up feeling guilty for having to make a decision to dismiss a player. As a young parent she really doesn't need the stress and guilt hanging over her. Obviously she SHOULDN'T feel guilty if she has to dismiss a player for clearly breaking team rules, but "shouldn't" doesn't always mean "won't" in reality.

I'd rather it not fall on Kim right now. She's got enough to worry about already.
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Agree, well said
 
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lvocd said:
I see what you are getting at, but frankly, I'd rather avoid a situation where Kim could end up feeling guilty for having to make a decision to dismiss a player. As a young parent she really doesn't need the stress and guilt hanging over her. Obviously she SHOULDN'T feel guilty if she has to dismiss a player for clearly breaking team rules, but "shouldn't" doesn't always mean "won't" in reality.

I'd rather it not fall on Kim right now. She's got enough to worry about already.
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I'm sure Kim feels terrible, but there is a scenario in which the result is, I still love you as a person, I am going to still have your back as a human, hook you up with therapy resources etc as Ruby would be open to, but you just can't be on this roster this season anymore. That's what I would imagine, but who knows, we will find out soon enough I'm sure.
 
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volforlife10 said:
i thought they were replaced with lesser charges as well. i dont think they ended up being felonies.
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Yes, you and GUNTERSVOL are correct -- thank goodness! I somehow got it in my head that the sweet deal she got would be nullified if she got into anymore trouble, but now I'm getting that wasn't the case, and that a misdemeanor marijuana charge likely won't even have any bearing on the previous case since THAT, too, ended up being only misdemeanors.

So my alarmist worrying about possible jailtime was way out of line. Again, thank goodness!

Still, the Lady Vol brand has once again been put in a bad light nationally, and that definitely puts Kim in a bind.
 
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glv98 said:
Yall sure about that? You can plead down felony charges to misdemeanors and not keep your end of the agreement? That seems like an extremely sweet deal.
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she was charged with misdemeanors in the end not a felony. the deal i think was that if she did not get in trouble for a year the misdemeanors would be taken off her record.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
www.wvlt.tv

Lady Vols’ Ruby Whitehorn charged with possession

UTPD says Whitehorn was found in possession of 5.59 grams of marijuana during a traffic stop.
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If she's a typical young person, she may have been looking down at/texting on her darn phone while she was driving. I can't even count how many times I've gotten behind cars looking like the driver is drunk, only to pass them on the left to finally see that they were just looking at their phones instead of the road. It's a miracle there aren't way more auto accidents than there already are.
 
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lvocd said:
Someone help me out here. I'm trying to figure out how Ruby could plead not guilty to the charge if the weed was found in her car and measured later. Would a "not guilty" plea be suggesting there was no weed and a huge mistake has been made because the police found and measured the 5.59 grams of Italian seasoning she was taking to a friend to make a giant cauldron of spaghetti sauce? (😉) Or that she didn't know the weed was in the car? Or that it wasn't hers?

Does it matter under the law whose car it is and who was driving it when the weed was found? I assume Ruby was driving but am not sure. I also hope her bestie Zee was safely in her own apartment at that hour getting some sleep and not with Ruby. In a traffic stop where weed is found inside the vehicle, are all occupants of the vehicle cited, or just the driver?

I am extremely ignorant of all this. And still struggling to believe this has happened. Again.Wednesday night at the game I was telling my group how happy I was that Ruby was going to end up being a tremendous success story, and today I'm worried she'll have to continue her life journey AFTER serving some time in jail. Ugh.
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The only plausible defense i could think of would be "It was not my weed, someone left their stash in my car without my knowledge." Just thinking about this logically, that defense would be the equivalent of "the dog ate my homework" unless someone comes forward to testify, "yeah, it was my weed".

Even if something like that does happen, I wonder how driving around 4:30 AM fits with the conditions that CKC set for Ruby?
 
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Rizzo924 said:
I’ve seen a lot of posts on Twitter saying this same thing (about weed). To me, it’s not the substance as much as the being stopped at 4:30 am cuz weaving in & out of lanes. So she drive while impaired. Weed was the charge but a lot of bad choices here.
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Ruby was not charged with DUI. So let's not falsely compound matters. Her charge is misdemeanor possession.
 
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winkles18 said:
Seems like there are no rules for the team now. To be out at 430am right after a game. Team dont have a curfew
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Why would adults have a curfew any time other than on a road trip? There’s not a college team I’ve heard of in the last 20 years that has a curfew, unless you are a school that has dorms with curfews.
 
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lvocd said:
If she's a typical young person, she may have been looking down at/texting on her darn phone while she was driving. I can't even count how many times I've gotten behind cars looking like the driver is drunk, only to pass them on the left to finally see that they were just looking at their phones instead of the road. It's a miracle there aren't way more auto accidents than there already are.
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Since Ruby was not charged with a DUI, her alleged "weaving" could have been due to being distracted on her phone or the like (PSA - don't drive and text) but, we should also acknowledge that Ruby would not be the first young black person who gets pulled over for a "questionable" probable cause.
 
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glv98 said:
Way more important things here than whether Ruby plays basketball again anytime soon. Such as whether she avoids a sentence for blatantly violating probation. And most of all what in the universe caused her to make such a brain dead, self destructive decision as to be riding dirty at 4 a.m. with literally everything at stake.

Obviously lessons were not learned before. IMO, basketball doesn’t enter the conversation until the way more serious issues are worked through. I wish Ruby and her family good luck.
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Right on. Likewise, it is not the arrest that messed up her basketball career. Her underlying dynamics would have still been in play had she not been arrested. A self destructive person can not sustain success, so even with her positive exhibition was unlikely to be sustained even if she was still with the team.
 
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glv98 said:
I’m not sure how it works if someone else in the car claims possession. But if the weed wasn’t visible or wasnt smelled, or if Ruby wasn’t obviously impaired, they wouldn’t have gone looking for it. That means really big legal problems for her, no matter what Greg Isacson (the best criminal defense attorney in Knoxville) says.

I don’t think this is going to be in Kim’s hands. She may dismiss her to make a statement, but Im afraid Knox Co is going to be in charge of Ruby’s availability. She’ll at the very least be on some kind of monitoring that will forbid travel for breaking the felony probation deal.
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Issacs isn’t the best criminal defense attorney in Knoxville, he’s not in the top 20 of who I would even call if I got in trouble up there. He is the most famous, because he’s ingrained himself in the media and taking on some high profile cases pro bono, blowing them in several instances.

I doubt a citation for marijuana will significantly affect her other case. Five or 10 years ago? Maybe. In 2025, I don’t think so. They likely did the traffic stop looking for something bigger and they didn’t find it, which is good for her. I definitely don’t think there would be some sort of monitoring that would prevent her from leaving the state, that’s really only a thing that happens if you have pending charges for a class A or B felony, like attempted murder or high-level drug trafficking, which she does not have.

We’ll see what happens from here, I doubt the administration will push to dismiss her, but she will miss a few games and be on a mutually agreed last chance.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
The university has rules on this and they can suspend her from school if not already, like they did on the other charges. Along with the university student rules and the police/courts I don't think Kim will be in the decision process for her future at UT unless suspending her from the team is just a formality.
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She was never suspended from school on the other charge, only from the team. It did not rise to the level of the student conduct board because the behavior did not involve another student and did not occur on campus. Slight possibility that this would because she was cited by a UTPD officer, but it’s still a fairly minor charge, one that hundreds of UT students faced last year.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
...We’ll see what happens from here, I doubt the administration will push to dismiss her, but she will miss a few games and be on a mutually agreed last chance.
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you and I disagreed on ruby's last offense and I respect you, but respectfully hope you are wrong this time...I estimate 85-90% on this board sees it the way I do and I predict that if Kim lets this go without letting go of ruby, she will lose more players and future recruits

kids make it to this level in one of two ways,,,undeniable potential and/or hard work/discipline work ethic....They respect what got them here and will not hang around if it isn't here too
 
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glv98 said:
I’m not sure how it works if someone else in the car claims possession. But if the weed wasn’t visible or wasnt smelled, or if Ruby wasn’t obviously impaired, they wouldn’t have gone looking for it. That means really big legal problems for her, no matter what Greg Isacson (the best criminal defense attorney in Knoxville) says.

I don’t think this is going to be in Kim’s hands. She may dismiss her to make a statement, but Im afraid Knox Co is going to be in charge of Ruby’s availability. She’ll at the very least be on some kind of monitoring that will forbid travel for breaking the felony probation deal.
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Well maybe yes but also maybe no. There is an endless list of cases where young black and latino folks get pulled over for allegedly not signalling a lane change, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, having a malfunctioning tail light, or driving "erratically" because the officers needed a plausible cause to search the car for drugs or guns.
 
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